AN INTERESTING FACT ABOUT SLAVERY IN AMERICA THAT IS NEVER MENTIONED.

I don't remember a lot of trumpers out there demanding that historical monuments be torn down..............

They were too busy running down Lefties and screaming "Jews will not replace us!"

You hate Jews and Blacks, don'tcha, DtM?
 
THOSE particular ones? no. what I AM saying is that most Democrats and Libruls are racist fuckwits and pedo nazis.

Show me a picture of a Librul flying a Nazi flag at Charlottesvile or any other protest. No rush. I'm happy to wait. :)

BTW, how many people do you know who were arrested for the Capitol attack? Do you know any who are on the run from the FBI?
 
now you're projecting, jew hater.

Sez the big, bad militiaman who ran like a chicken once the arrests started. LOL

How many names did you give up at your FBI "interview", DtM?

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Show me a picture of a Librul flying a Nazi flag at Charlottesvile or any other protest. No rush. I'm happy to wait. :)

BTW, how many people do you know who were arrested for the Capitol attack? Do you know any who are on the run from the FBI?


Liberals are the true heirs of the Nazi spirit


Elsewhere, Goldberg points out that it was liberals — not conservatives — who were the biggest advocates of eugenics; that America’s most racist (and fascistic) president was the arch-liberal Woodrow Wilson; and that during the supposedly wondrous New Deal of the beloved liberal president FDR, an immigrant dry-cleaner could have his door kicked in and be imprisoned for cleaning suits for five cents less than the agreed government minimum, while Nuremberg-style rallies — prompting a visiting British Independent Labour MP to complain it all felt far too much like Nazi Germany — were staged in New York.

Goldberg’s purpose is not to argue that liberals are bad people, still less that they’re all closet fascists. But he does want them to realise that people in glass houses are scarcely in the ideal position to throw stones. ‘I’m not a big believer in guilt by association. But their lack of self-awareness about the demons in their own midst is really astounding.’


https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/liberals-are-the-true-heirs-of-the-nazi-spirit/
 
this gets said so many times, yet NOBODY has shown any evidence that the republican and democrat parties held a meeting where they decided to switch ideologies...............

so what you're actually doing is promoting democrat propaganda in order to assist them in divesting themselves of their racist history. :good4u:
Indeed. There are a lot of racists Democrats.
 
I fully agree with Abraham Lincoln that slavery is a 100%, morally - reprehensible institution. No man has a justifiable right of any kind to hold another individual in human bondage so that he is deprived of his natural, Divinely-ordained, Natural right to freedom. FULL STOP - END OF STORY.


By the end of the American Civil War, 625,000 men had died in one of the West's most horrific and bloody conflicts. And everyone knows that in 1865, after Lincoln's Union Army had defeated the Confederacy, the 13th Amendment prohibiting slavery in the US was ratified.


But the 13th Amendment is just one chapter in the story of the prohibition of slavery in America. Recently I discovered some relevant history relating to slavery in the US that most of you Yanks will not know about, but which I think is very interesting and important.


So, if you want to educate yourself, here it is....


What I learned is that on March 2, 1807, Congress voted to ban the importation of slaves (African and Carribean, in particular) to America. On this day it enacted a law to....


"...prohibit the importation ofslaves into any port or place within the jurisdiction of the United States...from any foreign kingdom, place or country."


The ban took effect on Jan 1, 1808. By the time the lawmakers had acted, EVERY STATE except South Carolina had ALREADY abolished the (transatlantic) slave trade.


This legislation was promoted by President Thomas Jefferson - (and, yes, I know that Jefferson himself was a slaveholder) - who called for the enactment in his 1806, State of the Union address, and who had favoured acting on the issue since the 1770s. Hs position on the question of banning the transatlantic importation of African and Caribbean slaves to America reflected a growing trend toward abolishing the international slave trade, with Virginia, followed by ALL the other states had banned, or restricted, since the prior decade (again, with the exception of South Carolina, which re-opened its trade).



In 1619 the first African slave ships had arrived in Jamestown, Virginia. The American Revolution against the British Crown which began in (1775)/1776, was, as you know,, based on a bone fide appeal to human liberty and the naturally brought the issue of slavery into sharp focus. Many of the Founding Fathers castigated slavery and singled out the slave trade from Africa for condemnation. Some of the Founders, however, including Jefferson, whom I've already mentioned, along with George Washington and George Mason were slave owners. It is difficult to explain this, though there are a 1000 theories that have been put forward in the modern era that attempt to. IMHO, you would need to travel back to America in the later part of the 18th century in a time machine and meet up with Founders like Jefferson and George Washington to ask them, in person, why they owned slaves. Whatever their reasons were, I'm sure you would be surprised (!)



At the Constitutional Convention of 1787, the slave trade emerged as a bitter issue. After much caustic debate, a compromise was finally reached with the Southern states that guaranteed the continuance of the slave trade for 20 years after the adoption of the US Constitution. That deal set the earliest possible expiration date at 1808 - one which Congress met.



I think that for whatever reason/s this history of the slave trade in America is largely forgotten/ overlooked by most Americans, but it is important as it shows the US was taking firm and decisive steps toward stamping out slavery in America long before the 13th Amendment was ratified in 1865 after the Civil War.


:good4u: :good4u:



Dachshund - the WONDER HOUND

Dachshund Lives Matter !!

You flunked biology, didn't you?
 
As a white Christian I demand reparations from all people of African descent..

A new study suggests that a million or more European Christians were enslaved by Muslims in North Africa between 1530 and 1780 – a far greater number than had ever been estimated before.

In a new book, Robert Davis, professor of history at Ohio State University, developed a unique methodology to calculate the number of white Christians who were enslaved along Africa’s Barbary Coast, arriving at much higher slave population estimates than any previous studies had found.

Most other accounts of slavery along the Barbary coast didn’t try to estimate the number of slaves, or only looked at the number of slaves in particular cities, Davis said. Most previously estimated slave counts have thus tended to be in the thousands, or at most in the tens of thousands. Davis, by contrast, has calculated that between 1 million and 1.25 million European Christians were captured and forced to work in North Africa from the 16th to 18th centuries.
https://news.osu.edu/when-europeans...as-much-more-common-than-previously-believed/
 
no - in ideology

it takes a powerful government to shut down a business or to enslave a person.

those that prefer fascism will always be more at home with the democratic party. always

I can’t do anything for your willful ignorance. The Republicans of Lincoln’s day were the progressives of the day. The Dems of the KKK were conservatives.

You’re a conservative, aren’t you? That fact must just grind your ass, huh? It’s evident because you keep denying the truth.
 
History is not here for anyone to like or dislike. It’s purpose is TO LEARN from it. If it offends you, even better. Perhaps you won’t repeat the same mistakes.

Being in denial only propagates ignorance. That’s what the Trump right seems to prefer these days.
 
I fully agree with Abraham Lincoln that slavery is a 100%, morally - reprehensible institution. No man has a justifiable right of any kind to hold another individual in human bondage so that he is deprived of his natural, Divinely-ordained, Natural right to freedom. FULL STOP - END OF STORY.


By the end of the American Civil War, 625,000 men had died in one of the West's most horrific and bloody conflicts. And everyone knows that in 1865, after Lincoln's Union Army had defeated the Confederacy, the 13th Amendment prohibiting slavery in the US was ratified.


But the 13th Amendment is just one chapter in the story of the prohibition of slavery in America. Recently I discovered some relevant history relating to slavery in the US that most of you Yanks will not know about, but which I think is very interesting and important.


So, if you want to educate yourself, here it is....


What I learned is that on March 2, 1807, Congress voted to ban the importation of slaves (African and Carribean, in particular) to America. On this day it enacted a law to....


"...prohibit the importation ofslaves into any port or place within the jurisdiction of the United States...from any foreign kingdom, place or country."


The ban took effect on Jan 1, 1808. By the time the lawmakers had acted, EVERY STATE except South Carolina had ALREADY abolished the (transatlantic) slave trade.


This legislation was promoted by President Thomas Jefferson - (and, yes, I know that Jefferson himself was a slaveholder) - who called for the enactment in his 1806, State of the Union address, and who had favoured acting on the issue since the 1770s. Hs position on the question of banning the transatlantic importation of African and Caribbean slaves to America reflected a growing trend toward abolishing the international slave trade, with Virginia, followed by ALL the other states had banned, or restricted, since the prior decade (again, with the exception of South Carolina, which re-opened its trade).



In 1619 the first African slave ships had arrived in Jamestown, Virginia. The American Revolution against the British Crown which began in (1775)/1776, was, as you know,, based on a bone fide appeal to human liberty and the naturally brought the issue of slavery into sharp focus. Many of the Founding Fathers castigated slavery and singled out the slave trade from Africa for condemnation. Some of the Founders, however, including Jefferson, whom I've already mentioned, along with George Washington and George Mason were slave owners. It is difficult to explain this, though there are a 1000 theories that have been put forward in the modern era that attempt to. IMHO, you would need to travel back to America in the later part of the 18th century in a time machine and meet up with Founders like Jefferson and George Washington to ask them, in person, why they owned slaves. Whatever their reasons were, I'm sure you would be surprised (!)



At the Constitutional Convention of 1787, the slave trade emerged as a bitter issue. After much caustic debate, a compromise was finally reached with the Southern states that guaranteed the continuance of the slave trade for 20 years after the adoption of the US Constitution. That deal set the earliest possible expiration date at 1808 - one which Congress met.



I think that for whatever reason/s this history of the slave trade in America is largely forgotten/ overlooked by most Americans, but it is important as it shows the US was taking firm and decisive steps toward stamping out slavery in America long before the 13th Amendment was ratified in 1865 after the Civil War.


:good4u: :good4u:



Dachshund - the WONDER HOUND

Dachshund Lives Matter !!

If you read the original draft of the Declaration of Independence Jefferson spoke very strongly against slavery and even called for the abolition of it's practice.

He wrote, at the time, in personal letters, that this was the hardest part to write but that there was no choice in the matter because a man can't be free while not allowing others to be free.

When he submitted his original draft it was changed by people like Adams and Franklin who removed that language from it.

The founders did not want to deal with the issue of slavery.

Another fact, most plantation owners threw parties for their slaves at least once a month and provided them with plenty of beer.

Not to give them a good time but to keep them drunk so they were more easily controllable.

Their belief was that if you showed them some kindness they would be less likely to rebel.
 
I can’t do anything for your willful ignorance. The Republicans of Lincoln’s day were the progressives of the day. The Dems of the KKK were conservatives.

You’re a conservative, aren’t you? That fact must just grind your ass, huh? It’s evident because you keep denying the truth.

you are still the fascist party though

that has not changed

republicans were never for slavery. you were

republicans were never for using the force of government to prevent kids from learning. you are

so you can pretend that things just flipped, but they didn't

you are still the shit party that will use power of government to do horrible things to individuals - meet the new boss, same as the old boss
 
They did have that right 175 years ago.....but yes it was wrong. But they did have the right to hold a man at that time!

The democrats had the POWER to enslave others, not the right.

We now see that is was wrong but 175 200 years ago most didn't see it as wrong

That's not true.

It was a bitter point of contention from the start. The North was steadfastly opposed to slavery from the start.

Human sacrifice was very wrong when the Mexica people did in the 14th to the 16th centuries. But it wasn't to them at the time!

The Mayans and Aztecs were particularly brutal. The Aztecs were probably the evilest empire in human history.
 
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I can’t do anything for your willful ignorance. The Republicans of Lincoln’s day were the progressives of the day. The Dems of the KKK were conservatives.

You’re a conservative, aren’t you? That fact must just grind your ass, huh? It’s evident because you keep denying the truth.

That is completely untrue.

Lincoln was a huge supporter of what we would call corporations.

As we moved from an agricultural society to a more industrial society he moved to give steamboat companies and railroad companies almost complete autonomy through legislation over the individuals.

He loved big industry.

He also fought against protection for workers.

The wealth distribution was far greater back then than it is now, for example, in New York 1% of the people controlled 61% of their wealth but what lincoln did was not to push for more equal right for the workers in industry but to provide opportunities to allow them to earn more money.

He was anti-union essentially.

He was also a self-taught lawyer and believed that if he could do it then anyone could meaning he didn't believe in things like student loans or help for people wanting to improve their education.

Lincoln also agreed with slavery, he never had a problem with it and in fact said that he would have no problem keeping it if it could keep the union together.

He even proposed shipping all of the blacks out to another nation somewhere just to be rid of them.
 
The KKK was started by Democrats. The thing they hate to mention is that the Dems of the time were CONSERVATIVES.

Oh look, the big lie.

How were democrats of "the time" conservative?

Were they opposed to big government? I mean, the democrats of the time DID pass the "fugitive slave act" that used federal power to FORCE states to do the bidding of oligarchs that owned plantations. Big government isn't a "conservative virtue."

Were the democrat filth of the time big supporters of property rights? Well, the "Small Holder Act" in Georgia allowed plantation owning oligarchs to seize the land of farmers who held less than 100 acres. Nope, democrats in the Antebellum South had as much contempt for property rights as democrat filth today have.

I don't think even you fascists can claim that the vermin of the democrat party in 1850 were big proponents of civil rights - seeing how you enslaved other people and all...


They prefer not to mention that because why? That’s the philosophy they support.

Nah, you're just a fucking liar, trying to blame your victims for the evil you perpetrated and STILL support.

democrats, democrats never change.
 
you are still the fascist party though

that has not changed

republicans were never for slavery. you were

republicans were never for using the force of government to prevent kids from learning. you are

so you can pretend that things just flipped, but they didn't

you are still the shit party that will use power of government to do horrible things to individuals - meet the new boss, same as the old boss

Now it’s me that was for slavery. LOL

Are you on some fucking mind-altering drug regimen, drunk, or just plain stupid. “Monte, my bet is on all three!”
 
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