zappasguitar
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But, why do the insured pay for the uninsured. Spell it out for me. I know why, I am trying to see if you really understand. I am also trying to educate you.
You like to pretend you've got all the answers.
You tell us.
But, why do the insured pay for the uninsured. Spell it out for me. I know why, I am trying to see if you really understand. I am also trying to educate you.
are you seriously retarded? I wasn't advocating for those things in my post you braindead idiot. I was saying those things are the result of a government run health system.

Your problem was solved before the ACA went into effect...FALSE, before the ACA I was uninsurable due to my high cholesterol. I had been rejected by every single insurer in the local market. I went two years without insurance until Obamacare brought in what was called the Pre-Existing Condition Insurance Program that filled the gap until the ACA could take affect.
Uh-huh...whatever.
CYA!
Tell everyone again how stage 4 colon cancer won't have you shitting yourself in fear, like it does with EVERYONE it touches.
My brother's wife died from stage IV rectal cancer, she was only 53.
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BULLSHIT
You were not "uninsurable" because of high cholesterol. You would have had to pay a higher premium because your high cholesterol puts you at higher risk for a heart attack meaning you are a RISKIER customer. What part of that don't you get?
You went two years without insurance because YOU CHOSE to. You could have paid, but you CHOSE not to.
Why do you fucking lie?
Let me ask you this. Do you think someone who has a DUI, and three accidents in five years should pay the same premium as you who has a perfect driving record?
Trump did not say he'd keep preexisting conditions. He said he would look at what to keep and acknowledged that preexisting conditions needed to be considered- he already discussed just what I'm suggesting.
http://money.cnn.com/2016/11/15/news/economy/trump-pre-existing-conditions/
See post 99.I was uninsurable at any cost. I assure you I tried hard to get insurance. I've been through this before on this very bored. I even once posted the denial letter and the acceptance letter from the pre-existing conditions insurance company. Believe me if you want don't believe me if it better fits your narrative, the facts are the facts
It's the only way to go...cut out insurance companies -simplify paperwork..Man I'm glad we have the NHS!!
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This is not going to make Mitch and Ryan happy.
https://therivardreport.com/20 Giv...past nearly 8 years, I don't think they care.
FALSE, before the ACA I was uninsurable due to my high cholesterol. I had been rejected by every single insurer in the local market. I went two years without insurance until Obamacare brought in what was called the Pre-Existing Condition Insurance Program that filled the gap until the ACA could take affect.
Obamacare as it was passed is probably the worst, most poorly considered law in U.S. history second only to Prohibition.
What we need to do is remove the obstructive, unconstitutional aspects of Obamacare, keep the better ideas and move towards a well considered, bipartisan plan.
Obamacare has failed miserable - unless you are a state / federal / major union employee who is EXEMPT from the law, or one of the scumbags who have their medical care subsidized.
The people in the middle - the people who work and are taking up the slack for the entitled class who are exempt from Obamacare, and paying far more than they should to cover the scumbags, illegals and stinking refugees are just plain fucked.
I pay close to $1300 a month, I have a large family.
An illegal immigrant or refugee with a bigger family pays Zip, nada, NOTHING.
Now you know why I quit voting democratic party line in 2012 and went for Trump in 2016 even though I don't care all that much for him.
Michelle Obama advocated a VOLUNTARY program of eating right and ignorant Righties with ODS screamed SOCIALISM and called her every vile name in the book.
Now suddenly it's a great idea!!
Trumpkin hypocrisy knows no bounds
My brother's wife died from stage IV rectal cancer, she was only 53.
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lmao guaranteed I make more money a year than you. I am not a low class prole. I don't get into what I do on here because it's none of your guys business, but i know for a fact I'm crushing most all of you.
I was uninsurable at any cost. I assure you I tried hard to get insurance. I've been through this before on this very bored. I even once posted the denial letter and the acceptance letter from the pre-existing conditions insurance company. Believe me if you want don't believe me if it better fits your narrative, the facts are the facts
Or better yet, go after the companies who are profiting off of selling the unhealthy shit to begin with, by placing a health impact surcharge on all foods that surpass healthy levels of ingredients like sugar and sodium, etc.
Tobacco products and alcohol, too.
Use the money to directly subsidize health care for the poor.
to them this analogy sounds ridiculous even though it's the actual reality of the ACA. People don't even know what the word 'insurance' means anymore.
I haven't been to the ER in a decade and back then I had insurance under my parents. I am not a feeble cripple like the rest of you. And for the record, I don't fear death. If I get sick then oh well. I know it must blow your mind there are actually principled people int he world, but I will NEVER be a taker. To me it's the lowest of the low. It's like selling yourself into slavery.
But, why do the insured pay for the uninsured. Spell it out for me. I know why, I am trying to see if you really understand. I am also trying to educate you.