Sharp contrast between Bush handeling of Katrina v. Obama's handeling of Hurricane...

Yurt said:
you without a doubt the biggest hack obama apologist alive. they both cut short their vacations AFTER the hurricane made landfall and caused damage. so it is a complete lie to claim obama was proactive and bush was not.

you are truly pathetic.
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Oh, bull - you just got smoked terribly, so now it's all "yer a hack."

When Obama cut his vaca short, I wasn't even thinking of this topic or Bush - I just thought, cool, he's being proactive about it, before there is a major crisis.

Again, this is in stark contrast w/ Bush, who watched a major crisis on TV for over 24 hours before cutting his own vacation short.

Only a hack can't see that difference.
 
You are dense as hell. Read, again - please try. I am sick of explaining this to someone so stupid. "Who can forget the images....while there was no leadership." LEADERSHIP IS WHAT I AM TALKING ABOUT. I can't be more clear. I don't blame Bush for flooding NO & stranding people initially. IT IS THE RESPONSE.

Now, please - ask the same question again, dumbo.


you've dishonestly danced around this, but that dance is over. answer the question, was bush responsible, yes or no. if not, then WHO is responsible?[/QUOTE]
 
You are dense as hell. Read, again - please try. I am sick of explaining this to someone so stupid. "Who can forget the images....while there was no leadership." LEADERSHIP IS WHAT I AM TALKING ABOUT. I can't be more clear. I don't blame Bush for flooding NO & stranding people initially. IT IS THE RESPONSE.

Now, please - ask the same question again, dumbo.
 
Damocles said:
You can't read, Katrina was a Cat 5, but Irene was not a Cat 3 just before she hit New York.. That ignores the fact that the eye fell apart 2 days before and the storm was consistently downgraded. Pay attention.



I live here, I'm reporting it. Call "bs" all you want, it's just stupid.
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Then it should be no trouble for you to provide the National Weather Service numbers to back up your claim...I'll be waiting for you to prove your claim: that the Eastern plains of Colorado experience sustained winds DAILY in excess of 73 mph.
 
Onceler said:
You are dense as hell. Read, again - please try. I am sick of explaining this to someone so stupid. "Who can forget the images....while there was no leadership." LEADERSHIP IS WHAT I AM TALKING ABOUT. I can't be more clear. I don't blame Bush for flooding NO & stranding people initially. IT IS THE RESPONSE.

Now, please - ask the same question again, dumbo.
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And my point is that this isn't comparable enough to know if the response would have been better... I hope it would have, believe it would have, but we have no objective measure and the storms were not comparable in damage.

I'm glad we don't have that kind of damage with which to measure.
 
Onceler said:
Oh, bull - you just got smoked terribly, so now it's all "yer a hack."

When Obama cut his vaca short, I wasn't even thinking of this topic or Bush - I just thought, cool, he's being proactive about it, before there is a major crisis.

Again, this is in stark contrast w/ Bush, who watched a major crisis on TV for over 24 hours before cutting his own vacation short.

Only a hack can't see that difference.
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you are beyond help. there were already crises as a result of irene when obama cut short his vacation. both president's cut short their vacation AFTER the hurricane made landfall and caused damage. thus, it is completely untrue that one was proactive and the other was not. was bush dealing with the hurricane, such as dec of emgergencies from crawford before his left?

yes or no.
 
Jarod said:
I know President Obama is not very popular, generally popularity is not a measure of ability or quality of job done.....

But here we were facing a smaller storm, the Right was all over Obama for taking a vacation, and president Obama leaves his vacation to be at the NHC so he can monitor the situation and be in the game.....

Bush was on vacation for Katrina, it was devistating as predicted by the NHC. Bush did not leave his vacation early, in fact he stayed on vaca for 3 more days, then flew over New Orleans from the comfort of Air Force One to assess the damage.... Then told Brownie, the man who was a champion horse breeder prior to getting the political appointment to be head of FEMA, how he was doing a "heck of a job."!
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Jarhead, you are a curiosity indeed. I have never known of anyone who can be so wrong about every sentence they post. Most people are right about something at some time, just out of sheer happenstance, but you have developed your incompetence to a whole new level!!

I know President Obama is not very popular, generally popularity is not a measure of ability or quality of job done.....

To the contrary, Obama is VERY popular, 49% of the country support him, even though he has no experience, no qualifications, no record of accomplishment, and nothing but a 'likable' personality. Some might even say, it was Obama's popularity that won him the presidency. After nearly 3 years of total disaster and abject failure, we still see 39% approving of the job he's doing. It must be popularity, because it sure isn't job performance.

But here we were facing a smaller storm, the Right was all over Obama for taking a vacation, and president Obama leaves his vacation to be at the NHC so he can monitor the situation and be in the game.....

Be "in the game?" Did he freaking win a 1-on-1 with the hurricane or something? You know, I bet that's why the hurricane wasn't as bad as Katrina, because Obama challenged it to shoot hoops and it was so scared it downgraded itself to a tropical storm and slipped out of town in the dead of night! Sorry it took Obama away from his normal routine of vacationing with his family, maybe we can scrounge up a golf game with Obama and Global Warming, that should be a good match-up, huh?

Bush was on vacation for Katrina, it was devistating as predicted by the NHC.

Well, he's not as good at shooting hoops or golf as Obama, so it's understandable. If only Bush had Obama's skills, he could have come back earlier from vacation and Katrina would have not been nearly as bad!

Bush did not leave his vacation early, in fact he stayed on vaca for 3 more days, then flew over New Orleans from the comfort of Air Force One to assess the damage....

FIVE days before Katrina made landfall, President Bush made history, becoming the first president to declare a national disaster BEFORE the disaster occurred. Technically speaking, Bush over-stepped his constitutional authority as president to do this, but he felt it was of the utmost importance to get help there as quickly as possible. Unfortunately, the Democrat leaders of the state, didn't feel the same sense of urgency, and failed to take the formal steps required by the state, in times of disaster.
 
Onceler said:
You are dense as hell. Read, again - please try. I am sick of explaining this to someone so stupid. "Who can forget the images....while there was no leadership." LEADERSHIP IS WHAT I AM TALKING ABOUT. I can't be more clear. I don't blame Bush for flooding NO & stranding people initially. IT IS THE RESPONSE.

Now, please - ask the same question again, dumbo.
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why is it you can't answer a simple question:

who was responsible? since you're not blaming bush, who are you talking about.

stop dancing and start answering.
 
Yurt said:
you are beyond help. there were already crises as a result of irene when obama cut short his vacation. both president's cut short their vacation AFTER the hurricane made landfall and caused damage. thus, it is completely untrue that one was proactive and the other was not. was bush dealing with the hurricane, such as dec of emgergencies from crawford before his left?

yes or no.
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Bush was slow to respond - even Republicans don't disagree with that.

I am going to try to help you w/ your reading. We can start with 2 words - "proactive" and "reactive." You seem to believe that the mere act of "cutting a vacation short" is "proactive." Here's the deal...it's "proactive" if it happens BEFORE a crisis escalates.

If a crisis plays out on national TV for over 24 hours with no leadership? That one is "reactive."

Does that help at all? Because I'm starting to think you're a bigger Bush apologist than previously thought, but it might just be a word mix-up.
 
Yurt said:
why is it you can't answer a simple question:

who was responsible? since you're not blaming bush, who are you talking about.

stop dancing and start answering.
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Responsible for what? I keep answering you, but you're really dumb. I have to ask you this...did you think that I was saying Bush was responsible for the flooding & for people being stranded initially?
 
Onceler said:
Bush was slow to respond - even Republicans don't disagree with that.

I am going to try to help you w/ your reading. We can start with 2 words - "proactive" and "reactive." You seem to believe that the mere act of "cutting a vacation short" is "proactive." Here's the deal...it's "proactive" if it happens BEFORE a crisis escalates.

If a crisis plays out on national TV for over 24 hours with no leadership? That one is "reactive."

Does that help at all? Because I'm starting to think you're a bigger Bush apologist than previously thought, but it might just be a word mix-up.
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so both presidents cut short their vacation after the hurricane hits and there is a crisis, but only one of them was proactive. there was no major crisis with irene like katrina, hence, your attempt at correlation fails miserably.

keep apologizing for obama, you're good at it.
 
Yurt said:
so both presidents cut short their vacation after the hurricane hits and there is a crisis, but only one of them was proactive. there was no major crisis with irene like katrina, hence, your attempt at correlation fails miserably.

keep apologizing for obama, you're good at it.
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It's embarassing that you think Bush cut his vacation short "proactively," while your trying to equate equivalency w/ Obama because the hurricane "hit" before he cut his vaca short.

It's so disingenuous. There is no comparison, and it's laughable that you think there is because Obama's vaca didn't stop simultaneously with the hurricane hitting land.

Again - Bush watched people stranded, for over 24 hours. You're a dreadful hack & apologist.
 
Onceler said:
Responsible for what? I keep answering you, but you're really dumb. I have to ask you this...did you think that I was saying Bush was responsible for the flooding & for people being stranded initially?
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lmao....you still can't bring yourself to state who you were talking about. what a dishonest hack.

and yes, when you read your post in its entire context, it strongly appears you were talking about bush. then when you later claimed you didn't bring up nagin, that further substantiated my belief that you were talking about bush. because if not bush, WHO onceler? come on, you can do it, you can name names, it will make one of your comments above a complete lie, but you can overcome this.
 
Damocles said:
Call "bs" all you want, I don't care. I just know that if I get a roof with less than a 125 MPH rating I can't get insurance coverage.
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Well gee, they got those wacky TORNADOES up there in Colorado, don't they?

Maybe that's why you need shingles with such a high wind rating.

But I get it, you're just like Yurt. you make ridiculous claims and can't back them up, then when someone calls bullshit on your outlandish claims, you get your undies all twisted and pitch a hissy fit.

Good God man, when I first got here you could at least be counted on to be somewhat honest, now you're just another deranged Obama hater willing to spread the most outlandish lies to further your claims.

Sustained winds in excess of 73 mph every single day of the year....ROTFLMAO!!
 
Yurt said:
lmao....you still can't bring yourself to state who you were talking about. what a dishonest hack.

and yes, when you read your post in its entire context, it strongly appears you were talking about bush. then when you later claimed you didn't bring up nagin, that further substantiated my belief that you were talking about bush. because if not bush, WHO onceler? come on, you can do it, you can name names, it will make one of your comments above a complete lie, but you can overcome this.
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You're a fucking moron - of the highest degree. How many times do I have to write in caps that I AM TALKING ABOUT LEADERSHIP...and you still say I can't 'bring myself to state" what I'm talking about?

Again, what the fuck are you talking about w/ that 2nd question? I don't blame Bush for the flooding. I blame him for the severe lack of leadership during crisis, and have made no bones about that. What "gotcha" are you going for here? I couldn't be more clear.
 
And yeah, you ARE getting under my skin, because you're being so incredibly dense & disingenuous. It's amazing; I have never seen anything like this, even out of you. You're a fucking stupid moron.
 
lol...the meltdown is hilarious.....still can't mention the name of the person you were talking about.

you did blame bush, then when you realized you were wrong to do so, claimed you didn't blame bush. but you screwed up by claiming you didn't bring up nagin. nice pickle you put yourself in.

thanks for the laughs little buddy.
 
Onceler said:
You're a fucking moron - of the highest degree. How many times do I have to write in caps that I AM TALKING ABOUT LEADERSHIP...and you still say I can't 'bring myself to state" what I'm talking about?

Again, what the fuck are you talking about w/ that 2nd question? I don't blame Bush for the flooding. I blame him for the severe lack of leadership during crisis, and have made no bones about that. What "gotcha" are you going for here? I couldn't be more clear.
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Onceler said:
And yeah, you ARE getting under my skin, because you're being so incredibly dense & disingenuous. It's amazing; I have never seen anything like this, even out of you. You're a fucking stupid moron.
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clean up on aisle 9
 
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