Palin throws kerosene on the fire

Bfgrn said:
If Sarah had said all of us, including her, needed to avoid excessively harsh or military-style language, without retreating one inch from her strongly held beliefs she would have gained some respect.

She chose to doubled down and basically repeat what she said when people were critical of her gun sights map last year.

SHE is the victim, not the dead and wounded...
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I saw where she claimed she was a victim, but I didn't see where she said the dead and wounded were not. Care to show us?


And the liberal or dem ads that had bullseyes on places were not the same thing as her crosshair maps??

Was there one iota of evidence that anything Palin has done provided any motivation for the murderer???
 
Palin would be my dream candidate.
How is it that she has no chance when she out polls Obama and all repubs.
And repub politicians are giving her more shit than dems, cause they fear Mommy Grizzly
 
Bfgrn said:
You REALLY don't get it. Palin was criticized LAST YEAR when she first placed gun sights on Democrats. It was irresponsible and dangerous THEN, and this shooting makes it CLEAR that it is irresponsible and dangerous now.
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yes, she was 'criticized' by those that hate her for using language etc... that has been used by both parties for decades.

She answered the criticism LAST YEAR:

Commonsense Conservatives & lovers
of America: "Don't Retreat, Instead -
RELOAD!" Pls see my Facebook page.
9:31 AM Mar 23rd, 2010

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SarahPalinUSA
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LMAO.... yeah, it is quite comical that so many on the left don't even understand that message.


If Sarah had said all of us, including her, needed to avoid excessively harsh or military-style language, without retreating one inch from her strongly held beliefs she would have gained some respect.
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Getting truly comical now. To pretend that comment was 'excessively harsh' is truly funny.

SHE is the victim, not the dead and wounded...
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100% bullshit. she in NO way is suggesting or implying or stating that the dead and wounded are not victims. Or that she is a bigger victim than the dead or wounded.

That is quite simply, hateful rhetoric from yet another moron who wishes to politicize the lunatics actions
 
WinterBorn said:
I saw where she claimed she was a victim, but I didn't see where she said the dead and wounded were not. Care to show us?


And the liberal or dem ads that had bullseyes on places were not the same thing as her crosshair maps??

Was there one iota of evidence that anything Palin has done provided any motivation for the murderer???
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You are a 'literal' idiot. She has to SAY the 'the dead and wounded were not'?

A (single) bullseye by a website and gun sight crosshairs by a national candidate for Vice President?

I NEVER SAID Palin was to blame for this shooting. Are you that forgetful?

I said LAST YEAR that her gun sights were irresponsible and dangerous. If anything, this shooting SHOULD make even Palin rethink that type of imagery. It DIDN'T...
 
Bfgrn said:
You are a 'literal' idiot. She has to SAY the 'the dead and wounded were not'?

A (single) bullseye by a website and gun sight crosshairs by a national candidate for Vice President?

I NEVER SAID Palin was to blame for this shooting. Are you that forgetful?

I said LAST YEAR that her gun sights were irresponsible and dangerous. If anything, this shooting SHOULD make even Palin rethink that type of imagery. It DIDN'T...
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you did in fact blame palin, and don't worry, i won't be a "literal idiot"

you were doing everything in your power to draw a connection between the shootings and palin and the right....you were non stop posting real or imagined violent rhetoric or imagery and repeatedly saying - they have consequences
 
Superfreak said:
Palin is 100% correct on this particular issue. Though she once again could have phrased it differently. Blood libel is not the most appropriate of terminology. That said, she is correct. The media engaged in the very thing they pretend to be upset about. They immediately went after her with NO evidence to suggest there was a link between the lunatics actions and Palin.

The media should be ashamed for the behavior of those like Krugman who couldn't wait to attack Palin.

Palin is not the brightest bulb to be sure, but the media's obsession and hatred of her is not helping the dialogue one bit. Their vitriolic rhetoric against her and the tea party are an example of the exact thing they are complaining about.
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what is wrong with blood libel?
 
Let's have a show of hands how many dems actually think Palin wanted them shot or even contemplated being shot. Would repubs make hay on the same bullshit, Yes. But they'd be equally tardish as the dems are on this one.
Someone brilliantly debunked the fuck out of this bullshit wagon when they listed Obama's quote. "They bring a knife, we bring a gun"
So he's advocating wielding deadly force?
 
Yurt said:
what is wrong with blood libel?
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Palin's analogy was to say that those attempting to lay this tragedy at her feet are doing the same thing people did to Jews- to whip them up to hate Jews by claiming Jews were using the blood of Christian children in their sacrifices.

So she is saying the left is using the blood of this tragedy to whip up people against her.
 
Yurt said:
you did in fact blame palin, and don't worry, i won't be a "literal idiot"

you were doing everything in your power to draw a connection between the shootings and palin and the right....you were non stop posting real or imagined violent rhetoric or imagery and repeatedly saying - they have consequences
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I never said Palin is responsible for this shooting. You are being disingenuous.

LAST YEAR, I said that Palin's gun sight map was irresponsible and dangerous. And I restated it after this horrible shooting. Has anything happened that would make me change that opinion? NO...but something DID happen that should make people think about theirs.

But you don't think...you emote.

What did Sarah Palin mean when she said "Don't Retreat, Instead -RELOAD!"? (Palin added the CAPITAL letters and exclamation mark on 'RELOAD!'

What did Sharon Angle mean when she said "If this Congress keeps going the way it is, people are going to start looking for second amendment remedies"?

And finally, what did Rep. Gabrielle Giffords mean when she said: “Sarah Palin has the crosshairs of a gun sight over our district and when people do that, they’ve gotta realize there are consequences to that action.”?


It is the job of thinking people not to be on the side of the executioners.
Albert Camus
 
Ice Dancer said:
Palin's analogy was to say that those attempting to lay this tragedy at her feet are doing the same thing people did to Jews- to whip them up to hate Jews by claiming Jews were using the blood of Christian children in their sacrifices.

So she is saying the left is using the blood of this tragedy to whip up people against her.
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Yea, it's all about Sarah, SHE IS the victim here.
 
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Bfgrn said:
I never said Palin is responsible for this shooting. You are being disingenuous.

LAST YEAR, I said that Palin's gun sight map was irresponsible and dangerous. And I restated it after this horrible shooting. Has anything happened that would make me change that opinion? NO...but something DID happen that should make people think about theirs.

But you don't think...you emote.

What did Sarah Palin mean when she said "Don't Retreat, Instead -RELOAD!"? (Palin added the CAPITAL letters and exclamation mark on 'RELOAD!'

What did Sharon Angle mean when she said "If this Congress keeps going the way it is, people are going to start looking for second amendment remedies"?

And finally, what did Rep. Gabrielle Giffords mean when she said: “Sarah Palin has the crosshairs of a gun sight over our district and when people do that, they’ve gotta realize there are consequences to that action.”?


It is the job of thinking people not to be on the side of the executioners.
Albert Camus
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you're blaming her right now....and don't worry, i won't be a "literal idiot"

you see, you don't get to play the non literal card and escape its ramifications for you.

if you're not blaming palin, then tell me why you have obsessivly posted her comments and talked about her poli ad? you keep asking what could she mean? and you keep mentioning consequences and you keep posting giffords remarks about consequences....

if you're not blaming palin, then answer this question:

what do YOU think palin meant?
 
Ice Dancer said:
Palin's analogy was to say that those attempting to lay this tragedy at her feet are doing the same thing people did to Jews- to whip them up to hate Jews by claiming Jews were using the blood of Christian children in their sacrifices.

So she is saying the left is using the blood of this tragedy to whip up people against her.
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my thoughts exactly, so i don't why sf and others have a problem with it, well, i understand the left, they must hate her for everything regardless
 
Mott the Hoople said:
Feel better now? ;)
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Not really, but thanks for being such a nice guy.

It just gets to me because there are so many people who needs to be heard, instead we listen to the likes of Sarah Palin. I don't feel she is to blame, but like the man in space said,

"These days, we are constantly reminded of the unspeakable acts of
violence and damage we can inflict upon one another, not just with our actions,
but also with our irresponsi*ble words."

Commander Scott Giffords, Commanding Officer of the Internatio*nal
Space Station. Commander Giffords is Rep. Gifford's brother-in*-law.

Noone have condemned him for his words...
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Bfgrn said:
You are a 'literal' idiot. She has to SAY the 'the dead and wounded were not'?

A (single) bullseye by a website and gun sight crosshairs by a national candidate for Vice President?

I NEVER SAID Palin was to blame for this shooting. Are you that forgetful?

I said LAST YEAR that her gun sights were irresponsible and dangerous. If anything, this shooting SHOULD make even Palin rethink that type of imagery. It DIDN'T...
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This is what we all claim, but they wish to make it something else, I am done with this subject matter, the debate once again has sunk to the bottom of the cesspool. I, like christie and you have complained about this type of language and symbolism many times, but they ignore this fact and make it what they wish to perceive, so I am not banging my head against a brick wall any longer.

Best of Luck to you if you continue to try to have a reasonable debate with them.
 
NigelTufnel said:
This is why you are an idiot.
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thats just a brilliant response, did your mommy help you write that?

the left used the blood of innocents to smear palin...our language changes all the time and i think the term fits, you're stuck in the dark ages, welcome to the 21st century
 
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