They are talking Impeachment!

I'm not anti-capitalist. A few years ago I entered a 50/50 partnership in a small business. The previous owners offered to spend some time showing us "the ropes", like hiring people under the table and saving contributions/taxes, cutting safety corners, etc. Needless to say their help was not appreciated and we quickly cut ties.

Yes, I like money. It's expensive keeping classic cars on the road, dining at fine restaurants, going on vacations. However, allegiance to my community and fellow citizens, my inherent knowledge of right and wrong prevents me from attempting to rip them off.

The reason so many businesses fail is because the people who open them are not business people. Contrary to popular belief not everyone is a business person. More often than not their greed and ego do them in by their offering inferior products/services or a general smart-ass attitude.

As for Canada being the US's b*tch the bottom is not falling out of the housing market and medical services are available to all. Being a b*tch can be rewarding.

But all is not bad for you. As the old saying goes "Stay the course" and vote Obama in 2012. It takes time to straighten out the mess you find yourselves in.

you want to destroy americans by shipping all the jobs overseas and incentivizing overseas tyranny. Telling them the government will support them is a lie and you know it. Stop trying to commit genocide against americans.
 
I'm not anti-capitalist. A few years ago I entered a 50/50 partnership in a small business. The previous owners offered to spend some time showing us "the ropes", like hiring people under the table and saving contributions/taxes, cutting safety corners, etc. Needless to say their help was not appreciated and we quickly cut ties.

Yes, I like money. It's expensive keeping classic cars on the road, dining at fine restaurants, going on vacations. However, allegiance to my community and fellow citizens, my inherent knowledge of right and wrong prevents me from attempting to rip them off.

The reason so many businesses fail is because the people who open them are not business people. Contrary to popular belief not everyone is a business person. More often than not their greed and ego do them in by their offering inferior products/services or a general smart-ass attitude.

As for Canada being the US's b*tch the bottom is not falling out of the housing market and medical services are available to all. Being a b*tch can be rewarding.

But all is not bad for you. As the old saying goes "Stay the course" and vote Obama in 2012. It takes time to straighten out the mess you find yourselves in.

Who the hell is talking about Obama? Sucking a politician's nuts must be great. Enjoy it.
 
The government is killing it's citizens through neglect. Your road blows.

There are no quick fixes, however, one major fix is in the works. As time passes you will all become closer to a universal medical system. I assure you that once you experience the benefits, once you no longer have to worry if you have medical coverage or how you'll pay the doctor....just that, alone, will brighten everyone's day.

Keep the faith. Stay the course. Vote Obama in 2012. Like being on a ship in a stormy sea land will become visible. Keep a steady hand on the rudder. :)
 
you want to destroy americans by shipping all the jobs overseas and incentivizing overseas tyranny. Telling them the government will support them is a lie and you know it. Stop trying to commit genocide against americans.

Other countries are dealing just fine with global initiatives. It's all about government co-ordination. Now is the time for government involvement. Don't push them away.
 
Other countries are dealing just fine with global initiatives. It's all about government co-ordination. Now is the time for government involvement. Don't push them away.

Oh yes. The peasantry put in corporate slave camps by paid off dictators love it.

The government is just an extension of corporatist power. You know that.
 
Oh yes. The peasantry put in corporate slave camps by paid off dictators love it.

The government is just an extension of corporatist power. You know that.

If it wasn't for government programs many would be a lot worse off.

To all those who worship capitalism, private business, the entrepreneur....the next time you're out of work and the bills start to pile up knock on their door and see if they'll give you a check to tide you over.
 
If it wasn't for government programs many would be a lot worse off.
Government has made people lives better in the past, but that is just to gain their confidence. More and more it's clear they work for bankers.
To all those who worship capitalism, private business, the entrepreneur....the next time you're out of work and the bills start to pile up knock on their door and see if they'll give you a check to tide you over.

Im not a neocon libertarian zealot. Business should be conducted inside a framework of other considerations, like morality, long term impact, maintenance of sovereignty etcetera. Globalization and fascism(socialism) fail many of these tests.
 
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Obviously you didn't read the article very well. The first thing is she doesn't own a gun. She borrowed it.

The second thing you seem to have overlooked is "They said if it wasn't life-threatening, no health insurance, you can't get no help."

People require medical care for all kinds of illnesses and injuries that are not life threatening because many can become life threatening. To say a medical system which does not treat illnesses and injuries until they become life threatening is better than one that does is absurd.

Yes, the US system does need to be fixed and has required fixing for a long time but nobody did anything. As I and others have shown there is not ONE country on the face of the earth that has scrapped their government medical and reverted to the old pay or suffer system and EVERY country started out with a pay or suffer system.

Are you unable to make the connection? Are you stumped trying to draw the one and only logical conclusion?

Your own system is so broke they are denying the very services you are speaking to.

The woman in this story was/is an idiot. Like I said she can own and care for a dog she can go see a doctor about pain. There are also medical clinics; and in Michigan www.michigan.gov/healthcarehelp

Your system sucks. If we are going to have a third party system I'll stick with the one we have.
 
Obviously the thought is in your mind. Politician's nuts, that is. :)

Canadian's aren't even good at trash talking. There must be a government book to tell you how.

Edit: Alright I was referring to you specifically so I shouldn't use such a gross generalization as all Canadians. My bad on that. And I have some Canadian relatives that actually can talk trash (a little bit) so my gross generalization was inaccurate. You specifically need a government how-to book, not all Canadians.)
 
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Ahhh, my simple friend. Life in your naive, little world is so different from reality.

Why do you think all those regulations came about? What would prompt someone to even think about imposing a regulation? A regulation on what? There had to be a reason, a circumstance, a "what" in order for someone to feel a regulation was necessary.

Because we are a nation comprised of nitwits like you, who "FEEL" things, and get all emotive about it, and decide they can "fix" a problem with another knee-jerk regulation. Because politicians have learned, they can remain in power by telling you they have done something about the problem by enacting another idiotic regulation... and this has gone on year after year, decade after decade. We now have massive bureaucratic regulations on nearly everything, and it simply chokes capitalism.

Whether it's large businesses polluting or small businesses hiring people and paying them under the table to avoid contributing to unemployment insurance, for example, or hiring part time workers who are presently collecting welfare or other benefits on the side to "one-man businesses" run by greedy people who cut corners when it comes to safety to selling inferior products/services.....every rule and regulation came about because something had to be addressed.

Right, and yet... There are still businesses polluting, small business hiring and paying under the table, greedy people cutting corners, and selling inferior products. All the regulations have not eliminated those things, have they? You have to ask yourself at some point, what are we doing wrong? It's certainly not because we aren't passing enough regulations!

Let me walk you through a real-life case... The EPA banned swimming in West Point lake because of excessive "fecal bacteria" (SHIT) in the water. Shocked by this revelation, the local officials began looking for the source, come to find, the city of Atlanta was dumping raw sewage into the Chattahoochee River, which provided the source of water for West Point Lake. State Representative Wade Milam acted quickly to have the state enact a "regulation" calling for fines against Atlanta for any release of raw sewage into the river. Still, the city continued to do as always and dump raw sewage into the river. After a year, their "fines" had grown to nearly $500 million, and they weren't paying. So the people took the case to court, where the judge determined that Atlanta wouldn't have to pay the fines, because the release of sewage was "accidental", and the city wasn't responsible. On appeal, the judge ordered Atlanta to "take appropriate measures" to address the problem going forward. To this day, the city STILL dumps excess raw sewage into the river. THAT's how your regulations work.

Then there is the current Gulf Oil Crisis, where we had all kinds of safety regulations imposed on the drilling company, and we even had a special government agency to make sure the regulations were followed. We find, the MMS was spending their days surfing porn on the internet, while the drilling companies ignored the regulations. The result is what happened in the gulf, and now pinheads like you are clamoring for what? MORE REGULATIONS!

One person's American Dream can easily become another person's American Nightmare. The entrepreneur is not some angel from Heaven. For every individual who has started a business and supplied jobs there are literally hundreds who scammed both their customers and the government.

So your solution is, to make it all but impossible for a small business to operate? Yeah, I guess if you kill all potential small business, you wouldn't ever have to worry about them scamming people, huh?

Let me school your dumb ass on something here, the small businesses in America, provide 90% of all jobs in America. Hurt small business, and you hurt job creation. Simple as that. Maybe that's why we are at 10% unemployment now? Nawww... it's probably because we haven't passed enough burdensome regulations on small business! IDIOT!

Why do you think the vast majority of businesses failed within a year or two? Because they had a superior product? Because they offered superior service? Or because your heroes are nothing more than scam artists and snake oil salesmen?

Probably because they couldn't afford to pay the taxes and fees or comply with the massive red tape of all your regulations!

Yes, everyone dreams of owning their own business and being a financial success and a lot of people dream of being doctors and lawyers and achieving financial success. Fortunately, we have rules and regulations on becoming a doctor or lawyer but, unfortunately, we have either too few or unenforced rules and regulations on being a business owner.

We don't really have rules or regulations on becoming a doctor or lawyer, we have REQUIREMENTS that must be met. But then, you hit on something I want you to think about for a moment... We have too many UNENFORCED rules and regulations on small business... Your answer is to pass more regulations and rules, but how does that make them become enforced? You haven't explained that! Why would we possibly want to pass more regulations, if we can't enforce the current ones?

Just take one example. A person can open a business, collect money from clients, refuse to provide promised products/services or provide inferior products/services, then declare the company bankrupt and keep the money.

Yes, and in such a case, they can also be sued for fraud and imprisoned. Look, idiot... NO amount of regulations or fees is going to stop corrupt people from being corrupt! The real world just doesn't operate that way! For every regulation you pass, there are thousands of dishonest people out there who will find a way around your regulation. It happens every day. What you are doing is, pointing to the corrupt to pass regulations which are only followed by the honest! Your answer is to punish the honest even more!

Is that your idea of job creation? Is that what you believe makes for a thriving economy? Support those people to the point of giving them grants, removing restrictions and even going so far as to give them tax breaks on the money they received through less than honorable means?

The vast majority of business is not corrupt, the vast majority of business people are not dishonest. You approach this from the perspective that ALL business is corrupt, evil, dishonest, and looking for a way to screw someone! If that is the case, why don't we just outlaw ALL BUSINESS? .....Yeah.... We'll just let the STATE run everything, provide everything, and do everything for us! THEN we'll have no problem with corruption at all, will we?

MORON!
 
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Tancreado is so full of it

What's his major complaint....that under Obama 2 major auto companies were kept from declaring Chapter 11? (Tancreado forgets that due to this, at least one major company is producing again at a profitable rate)
Actually, that wasn't Tancredo's major complaint at all. The fact that our government basically usurped the Constitution and took control of our leading manufacturing sector, is outright Socialism, and it's more than just Tancredo who doesn't like that.

You're just a cache of neocon mantras and talking points, aren't ya bunky? Let me bring you up to speed....GM was on the verge of bankruptcy...Obama gives them A LOAN to be paid back, and monitors them so they don't repeat the same BS that got them in trouble in the first place. To date, GM has paid back about 40% of the loan, which is "ahead" of schedule. "Socialism" isn't about the gov't being a lending bank to corporations per se.....do your homework. And when you can provide the exact part of the Constitution that Obama has usurped, let me know...because YOUR interpretation isn't a substitute.
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That the right wing evangelists are all pissed because they can't keep gays from getting married?

Gay Marriage is a dead issue, even The Obama doesn't support it! Get a fucking clue!

Learn to READ, you nit! Tancreado was the one who put the issue into his diatribe, not me.

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That a temporary moratorium on offshore oil drilling was implemented until it could be established that the BP disaster could not be added to?

There is nothing "temporary" about it, the drilling rigs are being moved to Africa and elsewhere as we speak, and they ain't coming back. They simply aren't going to sit idle in the Gulf for 6 months, only a loon would think they might. Not only that, but TWO Federal courts have already ruled against Obama on this, and he has demonstrated he simply doesn't care what the courts say. This has cost thousands of jobs in Louisiana, who's job base is 70% related to the oil industry. With support jobs, the companies providing the tools, drill bits, machinery, etc. for these drilling operations, it is estimated this 'moratorium' will cost us around 200,000 jobs across the board.

Not quite, bunky. Observe:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20100712/bs_nm/us_oil_spill




You want to prevent another BP disaster? How about finding a way to get the MMS to not spend all day looking at porn, instead of actually DOING their jobs?

You want to stop wasting time with these assinine neocon babblings of yours? STAY FOCUSED!

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His fantastic distortion of the Arizona border issue.....were the Federal gov't basically challenges a the State superceding it's authority to compromise the right of the average citizen against improper search and seizure with it's new laws?

LIE! --The Arizona law mirrors the Federal Law. There is not ONE THING the Arizona law enforcement has been given permission to do, that Federal agents didn't already have permission to do. There is no "improper search and seizure" in the AZ law, in fact, it strictly forbids such a thing. You are just immersed in this bold faced LIE!

Grow up, will ya? The Arizona law gives a street cop the power to come up to you and ask for just more than your driver's license...he can ask for your birth certificate or gov't VISA...all he has to do is personally determine "reasonable suspicion". But since YOUR dopey ass isn't brown skin, you don't have to worry about it. This is why currently Arizona is inundated with federal challenges and local legal challenges.

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Saying that Obama is more dangerous to America than Al Qaeda pretty much details the idiocy of anyone who buys into Tancreado's bilge...and I ain't just whistl'in Dixie on that!

No, and you don't need to whistle Dixie, you are probably too stupid to whistle anyway. Wow...you thought that gem up all by your widdle self, did ya bunky? I'm impressed at what you retained from a Junior high. Obama for another 4 years, will most certainly be worse than anything alQaeda could have ever done to America. Thank God, people are realizing that. Still, I have to wonder about the 43% who STILL think he is doing a good job. Obviously, we have a problem with retarded people in America.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.....it's all doom and gloom and the Shrub era was gold and left everything peachy keen. Let me know when you pull your head out of Limbaugh's drug addled fat ass and have an original thought of your own.
 
Actually, that wasn't Tancredo's major complaint at all. The fact that our government basically usurped the Constitution and took control of our leading manufacturing sector, is outright Socialism, and it's more than just Tancredo who doesn't like that.

You're just a cache of neocon mantras and talking points, aren't ya bunky? Let me bring you up to speed....GM was on the verge of bankruptcy...Obama gives them A LOAN to be paid back, and monitors them so they don't repeat the same BS that got them in trouble in the first place. To date, GM has paid back about 40% of the loan, which is "ahead" of schedule. "Socialism" isn't about the gov't being a lending bank to corporations per se.....do your homework. And when you can provide the exact part of the Constitution that Obama has usurped, let me know...because YOUR interpretation isn't a substitute.

The Obama Administration appointed a fucking CEO and a Pay Czar! They OWN 60% of GM, formerly our LEADING manufacturer! The Constitution does NOT give the Federal Government the authority to take over private industries, it just fucking doesn't!


Gay Marriage is a dead issue, even The Obama doesn't support it! Get a fucking clue!

Learn to READ, you nit! Tancreado was the one who put the issue into his diatribe, not me.

Regardless of who brought it up, it's a DEAD ISSUE!

There is nothing "temporary" about it, the drilling rigs are being moved to Africa and elsewhere as we speak, and they ain't coming back. They simply aren't going to sit idle in the Gulf for 6 months, only a loon would think they might. Not only that, but TWO Federal courts have already ruled against Obama on this, and he has demonstrated he simply doesn't care what the courts say. This has cost thousands of jobs in Louisiana, who's job base is 70% related to the oil industry. With support jobs, the companies providing the tools, drill bits, machinery, etc. for these drilling operations, it is estimated this 'moratorium' will cost us around 200,000 jobs across the board.

Not quite, bunky. Observe:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20100712/bs_nm/us_oil_spill

What the fuck has that 2-week-old Yahoo story got to do with what I posted? The Federal Courts have TWICE overturned the Obama Administration's moratorium, and they just keep forcing the issue. The drilling operations are already LEAVING the gulf! They can't afford to sit there idle for 6 months! Obama knows this, and YOU know this! The thing is, you don't fucking care! It suits you and Obama just fine for ALL drilling operations to leave the gulf, you don't want them to be there anyway! This fucking bullshit about "being sure it's safe" is nothing but a goddamn liberal bullshit LIE!

You want to prevent another BP disaster? How about finding a way to get the MMS to not spend all day looking at porn, instead of actually DOING their jobs?

You want to stop wasting time with these assinine neocon babblings of yours? STAY FOCUSED!

That's right Chicklet, you dickhead... RUN AWAY LIKE A LITTLE GIRL! I really do hope the "FOLKS" caught how you completely dodged the point on that one!

LIE! --The Arizona law mirrors the Federal Law. There is not ONE THING the Arizona law enforcement has been given permission to do, that Federal agents didn't already have permission to do. There is no "improper search and seizure" in the AZ law, in fact, it strictly forbids such a thing. You are just immersed in this bold faced LIE!

Grow up, will ya? The Arizona law gives a street cop the power to come up to you and ask for just more than your driver's license...he can ask for your birth certificate or gov't VISA...all he has to do is personally determine "reasonable suspicion". But since YOUR dopey ass isn't brown skin, you don't have to worry about it. This is why currently Arizona is inundated with federal challenges and local legal challenges.

NO SIR! The Arizona law did no such thing. It specifically states that an officer must FIRST be in the process of a "legal contact" ....the person in question can't just be "walking down the street" they have to be doing something the officer suspects is a violation of the law first, before they can be asked any goddamn thing! Taking your grandkids to get ice cream, is not a violation of the law, therefore, the officer CAN NOT stop you and ask for your papers! That is a LIE, an outright falsehood, and your political party is going to pay dearly for it in the end.

No, and you don't need to whistle Dixie, you are probably too stupid to whistle anyway. Wow...you thought that gem up all by your widdle self, did ya bunky? I'm impressed at what you retained from a Junior high. Obama for another 4 years, will most certainly be worse than anything alQaeda could have ever done to America. Thank God, people are realizing that. Still, I have to wonder about the 43% who STILL think he is doing a good job. Obviously, we have a problem with retarded people in America.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.....it's all doom and gloom and the Shrub era was gold and left everything peachy keen. Let me know when you pull your head out of Limbaugh's drug addled fat ass and have an original thought of your own.

Funny.... I never mentioned George W. Bush!
 
But since YOUR dopey ass isn't brown skin, you don't have to worry about it.

I don't know, because of my lineage, and this time of year in particular, I am pretty "dark skinned!" Certainly darker than most Mexicans, maybe not quite as dark as most black people, but darker than some of the lighter-skinned black people, for sure! So I probably would have to worry about it, if I lived in Arizona. But... since I was born here and can prove that, it shouldn't be a real problem.
 
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