They are talking Impeachment!

[Minister of Truth]

You will always be my comical friend.

Demolishing people intellectually would be a step up for the guy who is always attempting to jizz faces or anally rape everyone.

 

[Sammy Jankis]

I demolished him intellectually, then I blew hot man lava all over him and his sunday best.

 

[Minister of Truth]

I demolished him intellectually, then I blew hot man lava all over him and his sunday best.

Luckily, Apple doesn't attend Church.

 

[apple0154]

Because we are a nation comprised of nitwits like you, who "FEEL" things, and get all emotive about it, and decide they can "fix" a problem with another knee-jerk regulation. Because politicians have learned, they can remain in power by telling you they have done something about the problem by enacting another idiotic regulation... and this has gone on year after year, decade after decade. We now have massive bureaucratic regulations on nearly everything, and it simply chokes capitalism.

Don't be absurd. The choking of capitalism is brought on by corrupt governments. Thugs looking for protection money. Things that happened in communist countries. Have you ever spoken with a person from a old communist block country? Lack of capitalism had nothing to do with safety regulations I can assure you. Or decent pay for employees.

Right, and yet... There are still businesses polluting, small business hiring and paying under the table, greedy people cutting corners, and selling inferior products. All the regulations have not eliminated those things, have they? You have to ask yourself at some point, what are we doing wrong? It's certainly not because we aren't passing enough regulations!

I agree the regulations are not sufficiently enforced, however, it would be much worse without regulations.

Let me walk you through a real-life case... The EPA banned swimming in West Point lake because of excessive "fecal bacteria" (SHIT) in the water. Shocked by this revelation, the local officials began looking for the source, come to find, the city of Atlanta was dumping raw sewage into the Chattahoochee River, which provided the source of water for West Point Lake. State Representative Wade Milam acted quickly to have the state enact a "regulation" calling for fines against Atlanta for any release of raw sewage into the river. Still, the city continued to do as always and dump raw sewage into the river. After a year, their "fines" had grown to nearly $500 million, and they weren't paying. So the people took the case to court, where the judge determined that Atlanta wouldn't have to pay the fines, because the release of sewage was "accidental", and the city wasn't responsible. On appeal, the judge ordered Atlanta to "take appropriate measures" to address the problem going forward. To this day, the city STILL dumps excess raw sewage into the river. THAT's how your regulations work.

Then there is the current Gulf Oil Crisis, where we had all kinds of safety regulations imposed on the drilling company, and we even had a special government agency to make sure the regulations were followed. We find, the MMS was spending their days surfing porn on the internet, while the drilling companies ignored the regulations. The result is what happened in the gulf, and now pinheads like you are clamoring for what? MORE REGULATIONS!

Let me walk you through a real life case. Just yesterday I heard from a representative from a candy company. The company makes chocolate Easter molds; hollow chocolate bunnies and chickens as well as sports figures and motorcycles and other items reproduced in chocolate molds for sale at Easter.

The company supplies SMALL BUSINESSES an assortment to sell on consignment, say, $5,000 worth of molds. The SMALL BUSINESS keeps $1000 and pays the company $4000 at the end of Easter.

It is now the end of July and a few companies have not paid the candy company yet. So, the candy company can sue for the $4000. The time and legal hassle will, in most cases, be another loss because the SMALL BUSINESSES will simply close their door. Bankrupt. The owner of those SMALL BUSINESSES will keep the money. Any inventory will have been sold so there is nothing for the candy company to seize. Not only that but the person who owned the building loses as the lease is broken because the company has declared bankruptcy.

Guess what. The thief, oops, the small business guy will apply for another government grant to open a small business and if he can't get a loan he'll whine and b1tch the government is not helping small businesses.

So your solution is, to make it all but impossible for a small business to operate? Yeah, I guess if you kill all potential small business, you wouldn't ever have to worry about them scamming people, huh?

Let me school your dumb ass on something here, the small businesses in America, provide 90% of all jobs in America. Hurt small business, and you hurt job creation. Simple as that. Maybe that's why we are at 10% unemployment now? Nawww... it's probably because we haven't passed enough burdensome regulations on small business! IDIOT!

It's not the regulations that are the problem. The problem is every jackass thinks he can run a business. Yes, one has to have an understanding of the law. Yes, one has to know basic accounting or they'll spend a considerable amount of money on legal and accounting fees. That's what is entailed in running a business.

The vast majority of business is not corrupt, the vast majority of business people are not dishonest. You approach this from the perspective that ALL business is corrupt, evil, dishonest, and looking for a way to screw someone! If that is the case, why don't we just outlaw ALL BUSINESS? .....Yeah.... We'll just let the STATE run everything, provide everything, and do everything for us! THEN we'll have no problem with corruption at all, will we?

The vast majority are not corrupt, evil, dishonest, and looking for a way to screw someone? Perhaps not the vast majority but do you have any idea how many small businesses open and close yearly?

Here's some news. People go into business to make money. That is their priority. Their job is to find any legal and quasi-legal way to do so. They are not there out of the kindness of their heart. That is why regulations are necessary and as new loopholes are found new regulations are necessary to plug them.

Have you learned nothing from the financial crisis?

 

[apple0154]

That's what you meant to say, right?

Riiiight.

 

[apple0154]

Demolishing people intellectually would be a step up for the guy who is always attempting to jizz faces or anally rape everyone.

AssHat has a fixation that just won't quit.

 

[apple0154]

Luckily, Apple doesn't attend Church.

As fate would have it I was in a church last Saturday attending a friend's funeral. The Priest said something and a bunch of people started to go to the front of the church so I followed along. Then the Priest handed out what looked like small cookies so I accepted one when he offered.

I later found out that by not being Catholic I shouldn't have ate the cookie. I'm not sure why I wasn't supposed to eat it other than not being Catholic but I won't do that again because the cookie stuck to the roof of my mouth. I can only imagine what it must have been like for someone with dentures!

 

[Minister of Truth]

As fate would have it I was in a church last Saturday attending a friend's funeral. The Priest said something and a bunch of people started to go to the front of the church so I followed along. Then the Priest handed out what looked like small cookies so I accepted one when he offered.

I later found out that by not being Catholic I shouldn't have ate the cookie. I'm not sure why I wasn't supposed to eat it other than not being Catholic but I won't do that again because the cookie stuck to the roof of my mouth. I can only imagine what it must have been like for someone with dentures!

The reason is because its only for people who actually believe in it. The next time you are at a Catholic Mass, when you go up to the priest, just cross your arms in the shape of an X, and he will just bless you. That way you can participate and not just remain seated the whole time.

The appropriate way for actual Catholics to receive the "cookie," is actually not to chew on it, even though most are ignorant proles, or argue that the traditional way is old-fashioned and irrelevant. It actually dissolves in your mouth fairly quickly, especially if you receive the wine as well. The Byzantine Catholics (and so I'm assuming the Orthodox as well) have this problem all worked out by mixing the bread and the wine together, and having the priest distribute it with an elaborate device.

 

[Dixie - In Memoriam]

Don't be absurd. The choking of capitalism is brought on by corrupt governments. Thugs looking for protection money. Things that happened in communist countries. Have you ever spoken with a person from a old communist block country? Lack of capitalism had nothing to do with safety regulations I can assure you. Or decent pay for employees.

What the fuck are you even talking about here? Old communist bloc countries, and communist governments in general, do not have capitalism! It is the complete polar opposite of capitalism. The State controls all business, including all safety issues, pay and everything else. The corruption you speak of is a direct result of exactly what you would like to see more of, governmental control and regulation. I do indeed know people from the old Soviet Bloc nations, and I seriously doubt you do. If you do, you certainly haven't talked with them much, because they would tell you what a moron you are for thinking it's better to have government control things rather than having individual liberty and free enterprise! Unless of course, they were part of the Ruling Class... You see, the problem with government controlling everything is, those who work for the government have all the power, and can do pretty much whatever they please, at the expense of the working class. There is no 'middle class' as we have here, or you have in Canada. You're either part of the Elite, or you are a prole... most are proles.

I agree the regulations are not sufficiently enforced, however, it would be much worse without regulations.

But you missed my point. It's not lack of regulations, it's the failure to enforce the regulations we already have! And MORE regulation will not curb or diminish corruption, it will only invite MORE!

Let's get something clear, you seem to think I am opposed to any and all regulation, and that isn't what I have said. Certainly, there is a need for a limited amount of oversight and regulation by government. We passed that threshold about 40 years ago!

Let me walk you through a real life case. [silly rant about a candy company] will simply close their door. Bankrupt. The owner of those SMALL BUSINESSES will keep the money. Any inventory will have been sold so there is nothing for the candy company to seize. Not only that but the person who owned the building loses as the lease is broken because the company has declared bankruptcy.

Guess what. The thief, oops, the small business guy will apply for another government grant to open a small business and if he can't get a loan he'll whine and b1tch the government is not helping small businesses.

If he declared bankruptcy, he will not get another small business loan. In your example, the company that trusted him with their product needs to reevaluate their policies, perhaps require a security bond or maybe not extend so much inventory at one time, until the client has a proven track record and can be trusted?

But the main thing is, you are citing an obscure and rare example, not the "norm" by any stretch. And what would "more regulation" do for this situation? Again, more regulations will not stop dishonest people from being dishonest!

It's not the regulations that are the problem. The problem is every jackass thinks he can run a business. Yes, one has to have an understanding of the law. Yes, one has to know basic accounting or they'll spend a considerable amount of money on legal and accounting fees. That's what is entailed in running a business.

So what do you propose? We should outlaw small business altogether or something? Not everyone thinks they can run a business, not everyone WANTS to run a business! But America is a place where free enterprise and liberty enables individuals to strive for and reach their goals and realize their dreams. Or at least that's how America USED to be, I'm not so sure it's even possible anymore, with all the governmental red tape and regulations imposed on small businesses.

The vast majority are not corrupt, evil, dishonest, and looking for a way to screw someone? Perhaps not the vast majority but do you have any idea how many small businesses open and close yearly?

Oh, a ton of them do! Do you have any idea how many would have survived and prospered, had it not been for taxes, fees, and mandates from the government? As for evil corrupt businesses that screw people, we have laws against that, and they should be enforced to the fullest extent. Problem is, we have a bunch of touchy-feely liberal nitwits who want to 'find compassion' and let them off the hook, all too often. Again... No amount of new regulation is going to EVER solve that problem!

Here's some news. People go into business to make money. That is their priority. Their job is to find any legal and quasi-legal way to do so. They are not there out of the kindness of their heart. That is why regulations are necessary and as new loopholes are found new regulations are necessary to plug them.

People go into business to make money, just like people work a regular job to make money. Is there something inherently wrong with the desire to make money? Should we outlaw making money too? Beyond the perfectly legitimate and normal desire everyone has to make money, those who open their own business are doing something they love and have a passion for, and the business is a realization of a life-long dream and goal. I know plenty of people who own their own business, I have owned several myself over the years, and to a fault, the small business owner puts in more hours, and works harder than any person working a regular job somewhere. They seldom take a vacation or day off, they manage a tremendous amount of responsibility and stress, and they never know what the future holds.

Have you learned nothing from the financial crisis?

I learned it's best not to put Liberal Democrats in charge of writing legislation mandating financial institutions make loans to people who don't have the ability to repay the loans. I've learned it's better to allow capitalism to take care of itself, and get government the hell out of the way. There is no such thing as "too big to fail" in my book. Capitalism has a way of correcting itself, businesses that can't make it, need to go out of business, not become wards of the state and endlessly subsidized by the taxpayer. Yeah, I've learned a helluva lot, have you?

 

[apple0154]

What the fuck are you even talking about here? Old communist bloc countries, and communist governments in general, do not have capitalism! It is the complete polar opposite of capitalism. The State controls all business, including all safety issues, pay and everything else. The corruption you speak of is a direct result of exactly what you would like to see more of, governmental control and regulation. I do indeed know people from the old Soviet Bloc nations, and I seriously doubt you do. If you do, you certainly haven't talked with them much, because they would tell you what a moron you are for thinking it's better to have government control things rather than having individual liberty and free enterprise! Unless of course, they were part of the Ruling Class... You see, the problem with government controlling everything is, those who work for the government have all the power, and can do pretty much whatever they please, at the expense of the working class. There is no 'middle class' as we have here, or you have in Canada. You're either part of the Elite, or you are a prole... most are proles.

I’m talking about countries like Bulgaria that were a part of the Soviet block. Lack of Police protection, paying thugs for protection, being victims of robberies, etc. discouraged people from having a business.

There is a difference between government control and government oversight.

But you missed my point. It's not lack of regulations, it's the failure to enforce the regulations we already have! And MORE regulation will not curb or diminish corruption, it will only invite MORE!

Let's get something clear, you seem to think I am opposed to any and all regulation, and that isn't what I have said. Certainly, there is a need for a limited amount of oversight and regulation by government. We passed that threshold about 40 years ago! [/quote]

We never passed that threshold. How can you say there are sufficient regulations when a person can open a business, collect money supplying inferior products/services, use that money to buy a car or pay a mortgage, then declare the business bankrupt and keep the car/house?

People go into business to make money, just like people work a regular job to make money. Is there something inherently wrong with the desire to make money? Should we outlaw making money too? Beyond the perfectly legitimate and normal desire everyone has to make money, those who open their own business are doing something they love and have a passion for, and the business is a realization of a life-long dream and goal. I know plenty of people who own their own business, I have owned several myself over the years, and to a fault, the small business owner puts in more hours, and works harder than any person working a regular job somewhere. They seldom take a vacation or day off, they manage a tremendous amount of responsibility and stress, and they never know what the future holds.

There’s nothing inherently wrong with making money, however, there are plenty of greedy folks who will try/do anything to make money. That’s what’s wrong. And, yes, some people are so addicted to making money that they let nothing---- family, vacations, friends---interfere with that.

I learned it's best not to put Liberal Democrats in charge of writing legislation mandating financial institutions make loans to people who don't have the ability to repay the loans. I've learned it's better to allow capitalism to take care of itself, and get government the hell out of the way. There is no such thing as "too big to fail" in my book. Capitalism has a way of correcting itself, businesses that can't make it, need to go out of business, not become wards of the state and endlessly subsidized by the taxpayer. Yeah, I've learned a helluva lot, have you?

The government was responsible for insuring/ensuring people’s bank deposits were safe.

Think about it for a moment. The government left the banks alone to make decisions but when those decisions resulted in the banks becoming insolvent the government was responsible for bailing them out.

It is/was an absurd set-up. It’s like giving someone a credit card and let them use it any way they see fit while you are the one responsible for paying the bill. If the government insures deposits (FDIC) then it has every right to know exactly how the banks are using that money.

 

[DamnYankee]

Riiiight.

You need to work on your insults then, Liberal.

 

[Dixie - In Memoriam]

I’m talking about countries like Bulgaria that were a part of the Soviet block. Lack of Police protection, paying thugs for protection, being victims of robberies, etc. discouraged people from having a business.

You idiot, Bulgaria was a COMMUNIST country! They didn't allow people to open businesses unless it was controlled by the State! The lack of police protection, paying thugs for protection, and being victimized by robbery, are a direct result of a dismal existence in a COMMUNIST system! State/Government control, and absolute authoritarianism is the reason for the corruption and graft.

There is a difference between government control and government oversight.

Not really. As I said, LIMITED government oversight is not always a bad idea, I can make an argument for that, and I understand that we do need some constraints on capitalism, but that's a far cry from what you are after.

We never passed that threshold. How can you say there are sufficient regulations when a person can open a business, collect money supplying inferior products/services, use that money to buy a car or pay a mortgage, then declare the business bankrupt and keep the car/house?

That has nothing to do with regulations, that is bankruptcy law, which was enacted by pinhead liberals who felt sorry for people who were in financial distress.... AGAIN, the result of Government Actions (which you favor more of), and not Capitalist Systems!

There’s nothing inherently wrong with making money, however, there are plenty of greedy folks who will try/do anything to make money. That’s what’s wrong. And, yes, some people are so addicted to making money that they let nothing---- family, vacations, friends---interfere with that.

And once again, you will never eliminate greed by passing more regulations on the honest! You are approaching the problem from the wrong end! Punish the wrongdoers, I am all for that! Enact strict and harsh penalties for people who commit fraud and cheat people, and then ENFORCE the LAW! What you want to do, is make it all but impossible to operate a legitimate business! It's the diametric OPPOSITE of what you should be advocating to address the problems you mentioned.

The government was responsible for insuring/ensuring people’s bank deposits were safe.

Think about it for a moment. The government left the banks alone to make decisions but when those decisions resulted in the banks becoming insolvent the government was responsible for bailing them out.

Uhm.... NO... The Government didn't "leave them alone" to do a damn thing! They passed a law MANDATING and REQUIRING them to make loans available to low-income people who did not have sufficient credit or the wherewithal to repay the loans! ONCE AGAIN, the result of Government Actions WAS the problem, not the Capitalist System!

It is/was an absurd set-up. It’s like giving someone a credit card and let them use it any way they see fit while you are the one responsible for paying the bill. If the government insures deposits (FDIC) then it has every right to know exactly how the banks are using that money.

Again, it was THE GOVERNMENT who told the financial institutions to make the loans! Had the financial institutions been allowed to act on their own, they would have never made these loans to people who couldn't pay them back! If you KNOW someone isn't able to repay you, are you going to loan them money anyway? Of course you will, if someone puts a fucking gun to your head and orders you to do so! THAT is what happened here, the Federal Government DEMANDED Freddy and Fanny make loans to people who couldn't repay them, and the rest is history... NOW, you want to let THE GOVERNMENT have even MORE control over the capitalism! It's sheer INSANITY!

 

[Taichiliberal]

Dixie wrote:
Actually, that wasn't Tancredo's major complaint at all. The fact that our government basically usurped the Constitution and took control of our leading manufacturing sector, is outright Socialism, and it's more than just Tancredo who doesn't like that.

You're just a cache of neocon mantras and talking points, aren't ya bunky? Let me bring you up to speed....GM was on the verge of bankruptcy...Obama gives them A LOAN to be paid back, and monitors them so they don't repeat the same BS that got them in trouble in the first place. To date, GM has paid back about 40% of the loan, which is "ahead" of schedule. "Socialism" isn't about the gov't being a lending bank to corporations per se.....do your homework. And when you can provide the exact part of the Constitution that Obama has usurped, let me know...because YOUR interpretation isn't a substitute.

Dixie wrote:
The Obama Administration appointed a fucking CEO and a Pay Czar! They OWN 60% of GM, formerly our LEADING manufacturer! The Constitution does NOT give the Federal Government the authority to take over private industries, it just fucking doesn't!

Wipe the spittle from your slack jaw, toodles....I asked for PROOF...valid, documented PROOF of your claims, NOT more of your worthless rhetoric and opinion. All you've done is just repeat one point I ALREADY ACKOWLEDGED.

Dixie wrote:
Gay Marriage is a dead issue, even The Obama doesn't support it! Get a fucking clue!

Learn to READ, you nit! Tancreado was the one who put the issue into his diatribe, not me.

Dixie wrote:
Regardless of who brought it up, it's a DEAD ISSUE!

Ahhh, but it's YOU who touted the nonsense that Tancreado railed on about. So, are you now admitting that his entering a "dead issue" means NOTHING in his anti-Obama rant? And that would put credence to a point of my criticism. I truly encourage you to THINK before you type your response.

Dixie wrote:
There is nothing "temporary" about it, the drilling rigs are being moved to Africa and elsewhere as we speak, and they ain't coming back. They simply aren't going to sit idle in the Gulf for 6 months, only a loon would think they might. Not only that, but TWO Federal courts have already ruled against Obama on this, and he has demonstrated he simply doesn't care what the courts say. This has cost thousands of jobs in Louisiana, who's job base is 70% related to the oil industry. With support jobs, the companies providing the tools, drill bits, machinery, etc. for these drilling operations, it is estimated this 'moratorium' will cost us around 200,000 jobs across the board.

Not quite, bunky. Observe:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20100712/bs_nm/us_oil_spill

Dixie wrote:
What the fuck has that 2-week-old Yahoo story got to do with what I posted? The Federal Courts have TWICE overturned the Obama Administration's moratorium, and they just keep forcing the issue. The drilling operations are already LEAVING the gulf! They can't afford to sit there idle for 6 months! Obama knows this, and YOU know this! The thing is, you don't fucking care! It suits you and Obama just fine for ALL drilling operations to leave the gulf, you don't want them to be there anyway! This fucking bullshit about "being sure it's safe" is nothing but a goddamn liberal bullshit LIE!

Only a complete and utter imbecile would NOT read an article presented and then rant on about it's 2 week age as if that invalidates the information contained. Pay attention, you Dixie dunce...the article points out the FACT that the administration ADJUSTS the moratoruim effort to LEGALLY meet the objections of the courts....they didn't just force the issue regardless as you neocon numbskulls keep squawking. Also, all the screaming about the end of economic life on the Gulf should a moratorium take place are PREDICTIONS and SUPPOSITIONS, NOT CERTAINTY.

Dixie wrote:
You want to prevent another BP disaster? How about finding a way to get the MMS to not spend all day looking at porn, instead of actually DOING their jobs?

You want to stop wasting time with these assinine neocon babblings of yours? STAY FOCUSED!

Dixie wrote:
That's right Chicklet, you dickhead... RUN AWAY LIKE A LITTLE GIRL! I really do hope the "FOLKS" caught how you completely dodged the point on that one!

Seems like I'm dealing with an 8th grader, folks. Seems whenever the neocon talking points are properly challenged and dispelled on one point, they just jump to another topic. Since Dixie isn't too swift on the up take, I'll slow it down and explain: the ineptitude of the MMS was established LONG before Obama got into office, and the GOP and neocon cabal were all cool with it as long as 'DRILL, BABY, DRILL' was the rallying cry. Now that BP ILLEGALLY DRILLED 7,000 feet below what they were supposed to and cheaped out on the back up safety system that could have prevented this disaster, now suddenly dopes like Dixie are screaming FOR GOV'T INTERVENTION INTO PRIVATE ENTERPRISE...but in typical schizoid fashion, the neocons just want the gov't entities to be punished and NOT the corporations themselves. So let's ignore BP's fuck up's and shennanigans and focus the blame on Obama and chatise him for any intervention into the fray. Unfortunately for Dixie, the dog of his just won't fly.

Dixie wrote:
LIE! --The Arizona law mirrors the Federal Law. There is not ONE THING the Arizona law enforcement has been given permission to do, that Federal agents didn't already have permission to do. There is no "improper search and seizure" in the AZ law, in fact, it strictly forbids such a thing. You are just immersed in this bold faced LIE!

Grow up, will ya? The Arizona law gives a street cop the power to come up to you and ask for just more than your driver's license...he can ask for your birth certificate or gov't VISA...all he has to do is personally determine "reasonable suspicion". But since YOUR dopey ass isn't brown skin, you don't have to worry about it. This is why currently Arizona is inundated with federal challenges and local legal challenges.

Dixie wrote:
NO SIR! The Arizona law did no such thing. It specifically states that an officer must FIRST be in the process of a "legal contact" ....the person in question can't just be "walking down the street" they have to be doing something the officer suspects is a violation of the law first, before they can be asked any goddamn thing! Taking your grandkids to get ice cream, is not a violation of the law, therefore, the officer CAN NOT stop you and ask for your papers! That is a LIE, an outright falsehood, and your political party is going to pay dearly for it in the end.

Note how Dixie creates a scenario that AVOIDS the point I made. He avoids that FACT that the new Arizona law does NOT limit the cops discretion in discerning "suspicion" for the cop to stop you and ask for MORE than one source of ID. A simple traffic violation....being seen standing/in conversation with someone in a area known for day labor pick-ups could count as reasonable suspicion. The cop determines on the spot, and only after the fact are his "reasons" reiviewd. Meanwhile, if you don't have ALL the ID that the cop is would now be legally allowed to ask for, or he doesn't believe you, you're "detained" or worse....and that sucks for a LEGAL American citizen: Here's just one example:

http://www.nbcchicago.com/news/local-beat/eduardo-caraballo-puerto-rico-deportion-94795779.html

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/04/28/us/28legal.html?_r=1&scp=3&sq=john schwartz&st=cse

Dixie wrote:
No, and you don't need to whistle Dixie, you are probably too stupid to whistle anyway. Wow...you thought that gem up all by your widdle self, did ya bunky? I'm impressed at what you retained from a Junior high. Obama for another 4 years, will most certainly be worse than anything alQaeda could have ever done to America. Thank God, people are realizing that. Still, I have to wonder about the 43% who STILL think he is doing a good job. Obviously, we have a problem with retarded people in America.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.....it's all doom and gloom and the Shrub era was gold and left everything peachy keen. Let me know when you pull your head out of Limbaugh's drug addled fat ass and have an original thought of your own.

Dixie wrote:
Funny.... I never mentioned George W. Bush!

Even funnier is how Tancreado and YOU parrot the SOS that was used by Shrub supporters during the 2008 campaign....like the previous 8 years was all hunky dory!

 

[Taichiliberal]

But since YOUR dopey ass isn't brown skin, you don't have to worry about it.

I don't know, because of my lineage, and this time of year in particular, I am pretty "dark skinned!" Certainly darker than most Mexicans, maybe not quite as dark as most black people, but darker than some of the lighter-skinned black people, for sure! So I probably would have to worry about it, if I lived in Arizona. But... since I was born here and can prove that, it shouldn't be a real problem.

You're SO full of shit, it almost defies description. Now suddenly you're non-white? You can "pass" for Hispanic? African-American (yeah, we come in a lot of shades, don't cha know?), Middle East Asian? Come, come Dixie old thing...enlighten us all how you fill out the census!

You say it "shouldn't be a REAL problem" IF you lived in Arizona. But guess what bunky, you don't have to:

http://www.nbcchicago.com/news/local-beat/eduardo-caraballo-puerto-rico-deportion-94795779.html

So much for another Dixie delusion of reality.

 

[apple0154]

You need to work on your insults then, Liberal.

All the good ones have been used up as far as insulting Conservatives.

 

[Dixie - In Memoriam]

You're SO full of shit, it almost defies description. Now suddenly you're non-white? You can "pass" for Hispanic? African-American (yeah, we come in a lot of shades, don't cha know?), Middle East Asian? Come, come Dixie old thing...enlighten us all how you fill out the census!

You say it "shouldn't be a REAL problem" IF you lived in Arizona. But guess what bunky, you don't have to:

http://www.nbcchicago.com/news/local-beat/eduardo-caraballo-puerto-rico-deportion-94795779.html

So much for another Dixie delusion of reality.

LMAO... I filled out my census as Native American, since I am 1/8 Cherokee.

Yeah, if I wanted to, I could probably pass for Hispanic. People ask me if I am Mexican all the time. I get black chicks hitting on me quite often, so I must have something going on there too.... I was told I looked like Prince once... I don't see it, but whatev.

Here's the thing though.... I was born in Alabama, and I have my birth certificate. I don't have to worry about proving I'm here legally. But now, I can tell you of an instance back in the late 70s, when I was young and stupid... I was out on the lake with some buddies fishing all day, and we had just come in... I had been drinking heavily, and as we were going to our cars, a cop came up and started asking me questions... I got smart-assed with him and refused to show him my license or give him my name, next thing I knew, I was sitting in a jail cell. I was informed they could hold me for 48 hours, until they determined who I was. Perhaps they discriminated against me on the basis of me looking like a wetback, huh?

 

[USFREEDOM911]

LMAO... I filled out my census as Native American, since I am 1/8 Cherokee.

Yeah, if I wanted to, I could probably pass for Hispanic. People ask me if I am Mexican all the time. I get black chicks hitting on me quite often, so I must have something going on there too.... I was told I looked like Prince once... I don't see it, but whatev.

Here's the thing though.... I was born in Alabama, and I have my birth certificate. I don't have to worry about proving I'm here legally. But now, I can tell you of an instance back in the late 70s, when I was young and stupid... I was out on the lake with some buddies fishing all day, and we had just come in... I had been drinking heavily, and as we were going to our cars, a cop came up and started asking me questions... I got smart-assed with him and refused to show him my license or give him my name, next thing I knew, I was sitting in a jail cell. I was informed they could hold me for 48 hours, until they determined who I was. Perhaps they discriminated against me on the basis of me looking like a wetback, huh?

That's got to be it and probably has nothing to do with the "smartass" thing.

 

[Taichiliberal]

Originally Posted by Taichiliberal
You're SO full of shit, it almost defies description. Now suddenly you're non-white? You can "pass" for Hispanic? African-American (yeah, we come in a lot of shades, don't cha know?), Middle East Asian? Come, come Dixie old thing...enlighten us all how you fill out the census!

You say it "shouldn't be a REAL problem" IF you lived in Arizona. But guess what bunky, you don't have to:

http://www.nbcchicago.com/news/local...-94795779.html

So much for another Dixie delusion of reality.

LMAO... I filled out my census as Native American, since I am 1/8 Cherokee.



Yeah, if I wanted to, I could probably pass for Hispanic. People ask me if I am Mexican all the time. I get black chicks hitting on me quite often, so I must have something going on there too.... I was told I looked like Prince once... I don't see it, but whatev.

Interesting...so what's the other 7/8 chuckles? And you're telling me that you're non-white? You can "pass" for Hispanic? African-American (yeah, we come in a lot of shades, don't cha know?), Middle East Asian? That speaks VOLUMES to the psychosis of your being as you CONSISTENTLY parrot the bigoted and racist revisionism/social attitudes found on white supremacist sites (www.splcenter.org). Either that or you're totally full of shit.....whatever. You STILL cannot ignore or deny the FACTS of the "legal" support for abuses of citizens rights that the new AZ law opens to....or the examples of such abuses across the nation that have ALREADY happened.

Here's the thing though.... I was born in Alabama, and I have my birth certificate. I don't have to worry about proving I'm here legally. But now, I can tell you of an instance back in the late 70s, when I was young and stupid... I was out on the lake with some buddies fishing all day, and we had just come in... I had been drinking heavily, and as we were going to our cars, a cop came up and started asking me questions... I got smart-assed with him and refused to show him my license or give him my name, next thing I knew, I was sitting in a jail cell. I was informed they could hold me for 48 hours, until they determined who I was. Perhaps they discriminated against me on the basis of me looking like a wetback, huh?

Your little tale has NOTHING to do with the documented and valid FACTS of which I sited previously. That's your problem, Dixie....you keep ignoring what you don't like and keep trying to push your personal viewpoints, supposition and conjecture as a substitute. Sorry, but your ploy just doesn't work in print, where people can back track and see the errors in your "logic". But Lord knows you'll keep trying, chuckles.

 

[apple0154]

You idiot, Bulgaria was a COMMUNIST country! They didn't allow people to open businesses unless it was controlled by the State! The lack of police protection, paying thugs for protection, and being victimized by robbery, are a direct result of a dismal existence in a COMMUNIST system! State/Government control, and absolute authoritarianism is the reason for the corruption and graft.

You bumbling fool. I was talking about people going into business for themselves. Maybe growing/selling vegetables. Making furniture. Fixing cars.

Failure/lack of small businesses had nothing to do with regulation and everything to do with thieves/thugs stealing and targeting people who they thought had extra money.

The topic was your assertion that regulation stifles small businesses and that’s why people in communist countries didn’t have businesses. Once, again, it had nothing to do with regulations.

Not really. As I said, LIMITED government oversight is not always a bad idea, I can make an argument for that, and I understand that we do need some constraints on capitalism, but that's a far cry from what you are after.

Not at all. Let anyone open a business but hold them responsible for what they do. If they say they can install windows and they can’t, close the business. If they made money from installing faulty windows make them repay the person they ripped off. What’s so unreasonable about that? And before the government gives a thief some of my tax money to open a business check to be sure they know how to do the business they are opening. What’s unreasonable about that? Or is job creation about getting grants, opening a business and ripping off people, then getting out as soon as possible?

That has nothing to do with regulations, that is bankruptcy law, which was enacted by pinhead liberals who felt sorry for people who were in financial distress.... AGAIN, the result of Government Actions (which you favor more of), and not Capitalist Systems!

It has to do with the whole idea of promoting small businesses which is the never-ending whine.

And once again, you will never eliminate greed by passing more regulations on the honest! You are approaching the problem from the wrong end! Punish the wrongdoers, I am all for that! Enact strict and harsh penalties for people who commit fraud and cheat people, and then ENFORCE the LAW! What you want to do, is make it all but impossible to operate a legitimate business! It's the diametric OPPOSITE of what you should be advocating to address the problems you mentioned.

No it’s not. We pass regulations precisely because of wrongdoers. The same as traffic regulations are there because of wrongdoers. They do not interfere with people who drive carefully.

Uhm.... NO... The Government didn't "leave them alone" to do a damn thing! They passed a law MANDATING and REQUIRING them to make loans available to low-income people who did not have sufficient credit or the wherewithal to repay the loans! ONCE AGAIN, the result of Government Actions WAS the problem, not the Capitalist System!

If a bank didn’t have the money to loan they couldn’t have loaned it. The problem was new ways were devised to get money, ie: financial instruments. The banks sold their IOU’s that were not worth a damn so they could get more money to loan. In the end not only the banks lost but the people who purchased the IOUs. Those financial instruments were not government supervised. That was spelled out in the video, “The warning” but Allan Greenspan’s philosophy was, “No problem. When enough people get ripped off, when enough people realize the “note” is not worth the paper it’s printed on people will stop buying them.” So much for Greenspan’s idea, the king of capitalism.

Simply stated, if the government had used proper oversight there wouldn’t have been as much money to loan as people wouldn’t have bought the useless IOUs and the government wouldn’t have had to pay back all that money. In essence, the government guaranteed the IOUs through the banks. It’s not all that complicated.

Again, it was THE GOVERNMENT who told the financial institutions to make the loans! Had the financial institutions been allowed to act on their own, they would have never made these loans to people who couldn't pay them back! If you KNOW someone isn't able to repay you, are you going to loan them money anyway? Of course you will, if someone puts a fucking gun to your head and orders you to do so! THAT is what happened here, the Federal Government DEMANDED Freddy and Fanny make loans to people who couldn't repay them, and the rest is history... NOW, you want to let THE GOVERNMENT have even MORE control over the capitalism! It's sheer INSANITY!

You are missing a vital piece of the puzzle which is not all that surprising. Let me use an analogy. I have a total of $100 to loan. I loan someone $100 and they give me 11 post-dated checks for $10 each which includes $10 interest for a total of $110. I sell those 11 checks to you for $105. Now I have $105 to loan so I keep $5 and loan another $100 and I accept another 11 checks for $10 each and I sell those checks to you and …..on and on.

With Freddy and Fannie no one was keeping track of the amount of money they were loaning. Well, except Brooksley Born. (Excerpt)"We didn't truly know the dangers of the market, because it was a dark market," says Brooksley Born, the head of an obscure federal regulatory agency -- the Commodity Futures Trading Commission [CFTC] -- who not only warned of the potential for economic meltdown in the late 1990s, but also tried to convince the country's key economic powerbrokers to take actions that could have helped avert the crisis. "They were totally opposed to it," Born says. "That puzzled me. What was it that was in this market that had to be hidden?" (End) http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/warning/view/
Normally the government would have an idea, however, because new financial instruments came on the market that the government knew little about, because they were hidden, the amount of money loaned soared. Freddy and Fannie had access to virtually unlimited funds.

Now do you understand? If not, watch the video.

 

[Dixie - In Memoriam]

Interesting...so what's the other 7/8 chuckles? And you're telling me that you're non-white?

I've already been through this with you. The other 7/8 are a mixture of about 20 different things, should I list them all again for ya, Bunky? What the fuck does this have to do with anything, anyway? Does everyone have to prove their 'minority' status to you before you'll grant them the decency of listening to what they have to say or something? I don't get it. Are you that much of a racist?

(REDACTED REGURGITATION AND PLUG FOR RACIST WEBSITE) You STILL cannot ignore or deny the FACTS of the "legal" support for abuses of citizens rights that the new AZ law opens to....or the examples of such abuses across the nation that have ALREADY happened.

The AZ law mirror the Federal law. There is no new provision in the AZ law that didn't already exist for Federal agents. To claim otherwise, is a distortion of the truth.. A LIE. You're quite proficient at lying, Bunky!