EXPERTS ARE PREDICTING AN ‘EXPLOSION’ OF INEXPENSIVE ELECTRIC CARS

Tinkerpeach said:
So even the quickest charger takes 20-40 minutes to get your battery to 80%

Compared to five minutes to pump gas

I don’t see that catching on
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Think about 90% of the populations driving patterns.

Wake and drive to work (car is fully charged).
Leave car at work (car gets fully charged if needed)
Back and forth for errands like groceries, etc. (car leaves home fully charged and charges when it returns)


Unlike an ICE vehicle where you will just keep going until you need to get gas, the vast majority of people driving EV's will never need to make a specific stop to charge unless on a weekend travel outing.

They are the perfect city commuter work cars for 90%+ of the population.
 
Grokmaster said:
"EXPLOSION" is an accurate claim, because as the EVs are driven, battery voltage drops; when voltage drops, amperage goes up, which creates heat.

If it continues, in a very short time, an explosion is highly possible, even probable.
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And ICE vehicles???

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Lightbringer said:
don't forget the increased cost of mining the materials to just make the battery pack.
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Or the increased cost everytime the Saudi's want to flex their political muscle.

But then true energy independence and taking all of Saudi power and leverage away was never really anything the republiclowns truly cared about.
 
T. A. Gardner said:
So, you're claiming a battery that costs $16,000 instead of $20,000 is going to make a significant difference in the cost of a vehicle that runs $60,000 to $100,000 to buy? Nah. Still way more expensive...
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Oh my.

Here you are once again talking about a topic you know nothing about.

ICE manufacturers will celebrate cutting the cost on a part by $10 because in mass production those incremental savings stack and add up.

That you think a single $4000 price cut, this early in the push to mass production is not meaningful just shows how incredibly ignorant you are on this topic and why you should stop talking and listen to those who know better.
 
QP! said:
Or the increased cost everytime the Saudi's want to flex their political muscle.

But then true energy independence and taking all of Saudi power and leverage away was never really anything the republiclowns truly cared about.
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We can produce more oil than the Saudis, what you're really saying is that an American administration would deliberately hurt it's own people. Thanks for revealing yourself.
 
QP! said:
Oh my.

Here you are once again talking about a topic you know nothing about.

ICE manufacturers will celebrate cutting the cost on a part by $10 because in mass production those incremental savings stack and add up.

That you think a single $4000 price cut, this early in the push to mass production is not meaningful just shows how incredibly ignorant you are on this topic and why you should stop talking and listen to those who know better.
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Yea, sure... Chevy just jacked the price UP on their Silverado that were going to sell for around $40,000 a pop to between $60,000 and $100,000.


Auto News GM Raises Price Of 2024 Chevy Silverado EV, No Longer $40,000
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https://www.autoguide.com/auto-news...ition arrives this fall, starting at $106,895.

EV's are never going to be cheap.
 
QP! said:
Oh my.

Here you are once again talking about a topic you know nothing about.

ICE manufacturers will celebrate cutting the cost on a part by $10 because in mass production those incremental savings stack and add up.

That you think a single $4000 price cut, this early in the push to mass production is not meaningful just shows how incredibly ignorant you are on this topic and why you should stop talking and listen to those who know better.
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Ignorant? Mass production means nothing without infrastructure. You appear to be the ignorant one.
 
QP! said:
Think about 90% of the populations driving patterns.

Wake and drive to work (car is fully charged).
Leave car at work (car gets fully charged if needed)
Back and forth for errands like groceries, etc. (car leaves home fully charged and charges when it returns)


Unlike an ICE vehicle where you will just keep going until you need to get gas, the vast majority of people driving EV's will never need to make a specific stop to charge unless on a weekend travel outing.

They are the perfect city commuter work cars for 90%+ of the population.
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So you are constantly worried about charging your car.
No thanks.
 
QP! said:
Or the increased cost everytime the Saudi's want to flex their political muscle.

But then true energy independence and taking all of Saudi power and leverage away was never really anything the republiclowns truly cared about.
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The Saudis cannot control oil prices.
 
QP! said:
Oh my.

Here you are once again talking about a topic you know nothing about.

ICE manufacturers will celebrate cutting the cost on a part by $10 because in mass production those incremental savings stack and add up.

That you think a single $4000 price cut, this early in the push to mass production is not meaningful just shows how incredibly ignorant you are on this topic and why you should stop talking and listen to those who know better.
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EV manufacturers do the same thing.
 
Lightbringer said:
We can produce more oil than the Saudis, what you're really saying is that an American administration would deliberately hurt it's own people. Thanks for revealing yourself.
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Producing 'more' only reduces some of the price pressure. It does not eliminate it unless the US Nationalizes all Oil and Gas and considers it 'the peoples' and makes it immune to global price pressure.

You know ALL the big oil and gas companies are global right? That is Saudi turns off their pipe, then prices shoot up all over the world, meaning more profit for US Oil sold into those markets, over being sold in the US. As that price gap grows more and more US Oil and Gas will follow it.

That is, unless you believe US Oil and Gas is altruistic and will refuse to sell into those higher profit markets, because they are ok losing profits to keep money in the US citizens pocket.


You do not believe big Oil and Gas are altruistic do you? YOu understand how global markets operate right?
 
T. A. Gardner said:
Yea, sure... Chevy just jacked the price UP on their Silverado that were going to sell for around $40,000 a pop to between $60,000 and $100,000.


Auto News GM Raises Price Of 2024 Chevy Silverado EV, No Longer $40,000
2023 J.D Power’s Initial Quality...
GM Raises Price Of 2024 Chevy Silverado EV, No Longer $40,000
https://www.autoguide.com/auto-news...ition arrives this fall, starting at $106,895.

EV's are never going to be cheap.
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Ehhh.

I hate having to teach you everything on EVERY topic.
Look up the Ford King Ranch versus the base Model F150 and learn. I mean really LEARN.

Yes certain premium models introduced later can and will come in at much higher base points. that is normal to have that in your roster.

What that DOES NOT do, is minimize that cutting the cost of a part b $4000 is a big deal. Especially when you are still this early in a coming mass production wave. Mass production will continue to bring more and more efficiencies and improvements and cost savings.

Automobiles are not cheap. Not sure why you think that is a point. Gasoline on top of Auto's is not cheap.
 
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