Ashli Babbitt’s killer Admitted He Didn’t Know If She Was Threat
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Dutch Uncle
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^^^ Explains why he's
Never pull a weapon unless you intend to use it. Only a fucking moron who's never been properly trained in their use would disagree.
Yes, I fully understand the laws of trespassing along with the laws regarding use of deadly force. Thanks for the link.
Dutch Uncle
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Your sympathies for neo-nazis and idiots waving guns is noted, Fredo.
I'm leaving to mow the lawn for a bit.* More on this later if you wish.
*WSE leadership slang for "shave your mommy's pussy".
So if a cop pulls his weapon points and says freeze...he should just go ahead and shoot because he pulled it?
And who said the McCloskeys didnt intend to use them?
You can pull a gun and say BACK OFF - GET OFF MY LAND - DONT COME ON MY LAND ETC or drop your knife etc
COPS PULL GUNS ALL THE TIME AND DO NOT FIRE THEM
You can pull a gun its done every day by cops nationwide and not fired, firing it is the last resort...u stupid fucking walking POS
In America there are many thousands of defensive gun uses every year where no shot is ever fired even with Cops. The very appearance of the gun frightened the criminal into breaking off the assault and RUNNING . So they pulled a gun and WERE prepared to use it, they just determined that it was not necessary in the final analysis. In effect they pulled their gun to scare the criminal or tresspassers off and it worked.
Were did u get your traning at? We are Stupid Fucks Gun Training?
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Monad Portal
Was it me?
Your sympathies for neo-nazis and idiots waving guns is noted, Fredo.
I'm leaving to mow the lawn for a bit.* More on this later if you wish.
*WSE leadership slang for "shave your mommy's pussy".
I didnt say anything remotely similar to that.
but yes, run away, fag.
ZenMode
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"Ashli Babbitt’s killer Admitted He Didn’t Know If She Was Threat"
When it is appropriate to use lethal force is a challenge (struggle) for law enforcement. Many of those killed by law enforcement are unarmed. The prevalence of portable video devices has brought to light just how liberally lethal force is used.
When it is appropriate to use lethal force is a challenge (struggle) for law enforcement. Many of those killed by law enforcement are unarmed. The prevalence of portable video devices has brought to light just how liberally lethal force is used.
Theywillneverlearn!
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While I respect your answer it is really not a struggle at all. An unarmed person does not justify the use of deadly force. Particularly when they are not within your personal threat zone. And shooting without warning is not accepted by any law in this country. Except for congress apparently.
Tell us, how did the police ascertain the people were unarmed?
She was breaking into our nation's Capitol building trying to halt the smooth transition of power. I'm sorry she's dead, but she was a racist idiot and the world is a better place without her.
There's a lot of them. Here's one:
NICELY DONE!
the world is also a better place without many time felon crack head George Floyd that robbed a pregant girl at gun point
So, lets pull up a database of drug addicts who have ruined their family execute them publicly . Ooops... I guess that means we'll need to nuke your entire town, you redneck loser, because most of them are white and live in rural areas, like you!
So you believe the standard for self defense should be “Absolutely knew” she was a threat?
ZenMode
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I don't think you can make a blanket statement it's never justified to kill an unarmed person. There's too much gray area and situations where it would be justified. If a suspect attacks an officer, are we expecting the officer to get into a fist fight, risk being knocked unconscious and having the unarmed suspect use his gun against him?
I try to put myself in the situation of the cop in this case. If a clearly angry, violent man/woman was bashing in the front window of my house, should I be able to use lethal force to protect those inside? Should I let them come in through the window, engage in a physical alternation with him/her and hope that I can beat them? Should I call for help and hope that it arrives before they potentially pull a gun or guns from their backpack and use it on me or others inside?
If it was your kid's school (I have no idea if you have kids) and someone was bashing in windows to get into the school, would you want the officer to let them in?
Dutch Uncle
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Do you really think Ashli didn't know she was breaking the law? Did she accidentally fall through the window?
The attack began at 1PM and Babbit was shot as 3:11PM. That's over two hours for the mentally impaired.
How much warning do the Qless need to stop attacking police and our nation's Capitol?
https://www.npr.org/2022/01/05/1069...ack-unfolded-including-who-said-what-and-when
1 p.m. An initial wave of protesters storms the outer police barrier around the Capitol.
3:11 p.m. Rep. Mike Gallagher, R-Wis., tweets a video while sheltering in his office, saying that this was the cost of telling people they could overturn the election.
"Mr. President, you have got to stop this. You are the only person who can call this off. Call it off," Gallagher implores. "The election is over. Call it off."
We are witnessing absolute banana republic crap in the United States Capitol right now. @realdonaldtrump, you need to call this off. pic.twitter.com/0QGx2PlXFY— Rep. Gallagher Press Office (@RepGallagher) January 6, 2021
We are witnessing absolute banana republic crap in the United States Capitol right now. @realdonaldtrump, you need to call this off. pic.twitter.com/0QGx2PlXFY— Rep. Gallagher Press Office (@RepGallagher) January 6, 2021
Around the same time, a swarm of rioters chanting, "Break it down! Break it down!" overwhelms Capitol Police officers guarding the Speaker's Lobby, where lawmakers are sheltered.
They break windows and try to force their way in.
A Capitol Police officer shoots Ashli Babbitt as she tries to climb through the doors. She later dies of her injuries.
ExpressLane
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Indeed he was a coward that was too afraid to arrest a 100lb 5'0" tall woman. He murdered her and ran away.
Dutch Uncle
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Let's not forget, it wasn't just a single, crazed woman. She was the lead of a mob who were going to follow her through, just as they did from the outside barricades for the previous two hours.
The mob was a weapon. Shooting Babbitt stopped them in their tracks because none of the idiots behind her wanted to get shot.
How difficult is this to understand? Ashli Babbit was the only person of the mob that was entering the locked hallway which contained the offices of Congressional members by climbing through a window. Ashli Babbit is the only person that was shot. Pretending facts don't exist doesn't make them go away.
The mob was yelling threats against members of Congress.
The mob was breaking windows that prevented them from getting to members of Congress
When one of the mob attempted to go through one of the broken windows allowing them to possibly attack members of Congress a member of the police whose job it was to protect members of Congress shot them.
While you may not like it that she was shot, the likelihood of convicting that officer in a court of law is pretty slim. The problem you have on this message board is you are not looking at all the facts and being very selective in which ones you think matter. That's not the way the law works.
Theywillneverlearn!
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No one in their right mind who saw those actual videos would try and justify her shooting. It was murder. Plain and simple.