Pursuant to law, Congress asks IRS Director for 6 years of Trumps tax returns. . .

[Truth Detector]

The President isn't just a "US citizen who has dealings with foreign entities," he is the head of the Executive Branch, and one of the roles of the Congressional Oversight Committee is to oversee the Executive Branch as part of Constitutional checks and balances

This isn't about oversight. This is about overreach. A Chairman on the House Ways and Means committee can't demand anyone's tax returns just because he wants them. We still are a nation with laws snowflake, not some Fascistic third world shit hole.

If the House Ways and Means committee believes that a sitting President has committed crimes, they do not investigate. They send a referral to the Justice Department. That's how the REAL world works.

We don't permit a political party to conduct fishing expeditions into the oppositions personal business. That's what they do in shit holes like Venezuela.

This doesn't mean they are "phishing" nor looking for a crime, but reviewing questionable activity.

Sorry dumbass; but we do not investigate Presidents over "questionable activity" where no crimes have been refereed. That is what they do in shit holes like Zimbabwe.

Trump's refusal to step back from his businesses while questions exist that he is using his position for his own personal gain merits review, the function of the Committee. Income Tax returns would be an obvious location to examine connections

This is a bullshit claim. Where does the Constitution state that an elected president has to give up all of his business interests?

Just because Trump's lackeys in the House employed these powers to defend and spread Trump's interests for the last two years doesn't mean that now that thier purpose is solely political

Another stupid claim that cannot stand up to scrutiny in a prosecutable referral. If there is ANY suspicion of a crime, it is referred to the Justice Department. A partisan Kangaroo court in the Ways and Means Committee is not how we treat the law in this country, that's what happens in shit holes like Cuba.

 

[Legion]

I always maintained I did not know if there was collusion but I would wait for the Mueller report, which they are currently sitting on.

I haven’t seen all the evidence so I don’t know if it’s a “slam dunk”, but I do know mueller has a reputation for taking his time and getting all of his evidence nailed down before going public. He won’t move on Obstruction until he has all he’s going to get on collusion and money laundering. He won’t move until after he has interviewed Rump, give him a chance to explain it all away no matter how impossible that sounds.

If you are innocent.... why edit the report?

 

[archives]

This isn't about oversight. This is about overreach. A Chairman on the House Ways and Means committee can't demand anyone's tax returns just because he wants them. We still are a nation with laws snowflake, not some Fascistic third world shit hole.

If the House Ways and Means committee believes that a sitting President has committed crimes, they do not investigate. They send a referral to the Justice Department. That's how the REAL world works.

We don't permit a political party to conduct fishing expeditions into the oppositions personal business. That's what they do in shit holes like Venezuela.



Sorry dumbass; but we do not investigate Presidents over "questionable activity" where no crimes have been refereed. That is what they do in shit holes like Zimbabwe.



This is a bullshit claim. Where does the Constitution state that an elected president has to give up all of his business interests?



Another stupid claim that cannot stand up to scrutiny in a prosecutable referral. If there is ANY suspicion of a crime, it is referred to the Justice Department. A partisan Kangaroo court in the Ways and Means Committee is not how we treat the law in this country, that's what happens in shit holes like Cuba.

Wrong, the purpose of the Oversight Committee is to do just that, oversee the other Branches of the Government, other Committees have relating responsibilities. They are not doing it "just to see his income tax," but if one were examining financial dealings, income tax returns would be a good place to start

Wrong again, they examine the evidence before them, did Trump's House lackeys send any referrals anywhere with thier two year defense of Trump "investigating" anything Clinton plus Trump's own Justice Dept.?

Wrong again, not a phishing expedition, questions have been raised regarding Trump and his businesses, there are even State lawsuits proceeding regarding the same, certainly justify the oversight Committee's interest in the matter

Wrong again, never said anything about the Constitution nor a President divorcing himself from his businesses, rather that Trump purposely did not, and given the questions arising since he was elected, looking into the matter is part of oversight

And lastly, guess what, you are wrong again, the Congressional Committees aren't litigating, if in their investigation they find evidence of a crime it would be refered over to the Justice Dept to be pursued.

Amazing part is that after ten years of GOP redundant Congressional "investigations" any good Trumpkin, Obama hater, or practicing conservative should know all of this, and certainly should not be so wrong so consistently

 

[PostmodernProphet]

Cummings will have to show the courts why they need Tump's tax return to oversee the conduct of the IRS.......they do NOT have standing to oversee the conduct of Trump's accountants in filling out his tax returns......

 

[Stretch]

you don't get to see an American citizens tax returns just because you want to

troll

Typical lefty. They don't think that jurors' names should remain unidentified either.

 

[Truth Detector]

Wrong, the purpose of the Oversight Committee is to do just that, oversee the other Branches of the Government, other Committees have relating responsibilities. They are not doing it "just to see his income tax," but if one were examining financial dealings, income tax returns would be a good place to start

Link please.

Wrong again, they examine the evidence before them, did Trump's House lackeys send any referrals anywhere with thier two year defense of Trump "investigating" anything Clinton plus Trump's own Justice Dept.?

They are not examining evidence; they are attempting to FISH for it. There is no evidence and therefore, no criminal referral. It is NOT the job of the House of Representatives to FISH for crimes.

Wrong again, not a phishing expedition, questions have been raised regarding Trump and his businesses, there are even State lawsuits proceeding regarding the same, certainly justify the oversight Committee's interest in the matter

It is FISHING when there is no evidence of criminal activity. You cannot conduct a kangaroo court in the House of Representatives over perceptions of acts you don't like. They do that in third world shit holes like Zimbabwe.

Wrong again, never said anything about the Constitution nor a President divorcing himself from his businesses, rather that Trump purposely did not, and given the questions arising since he was elected, looking into the matter is part of oversight

NOT a crime dumb fuck.

And lastly, guess what, you are wrong again, the Congressional Committees aren't litigating, if in their investigation they find evidence of a crime it would be refered over to the Justice Dept to be pursued.

You poor sad, pathetic dumb fuck; it is not the Congresses role to conduct INVESTIGATIONS to determine criminality. That is REFERRED to the Justice Department within their jurisdiction. You cannot conduct a kangaroo court in the House of Representatives over perceptions of acts you don't like. They do that in third world shit holes like Zimbabwe.

Amazing part is that after ten years of GOP redundant Congressional "investigations" any good Trumpkin, Obama hater, or practicing conservative should know all of this, and certainly should not be so wrong so consistently

You look stupid and pathetic even when you cry snowflake.

 

[Truth Detector]

We have even LESS idea what Mueller found or didn't than we did a week ago. Talk about the law of unintended consequences. Keep screaming, raging and tweeting DONNIE!

How so? I think everyone but the morons on the left know what is in the Mueller report. It was summarized for everyone two weeks ago. Only straight jacketed morons continue to pound the table with the soles of their shoes demanding an investigation of the investigation.

 

[Jarod]

It was implied Brad. You know it and I know it. You can try to crawfish now if you like, but we all know

If you ASSume something its not my fault.

 

[Jarod]

Cummings will have to show the courts why they need Tump's tax return to oversee the conduct of the IRS.......they do NOT have standing to oversee the conduct of Trump's accountants in filling out his tax returns......

False. All the chairman needs for "standing" is to be the chairman, according to the law.

 

[dukkha]

Has the law ever been challenged in court?

Can you cite the number of times Congress has exercised this power?

Do you and the democrat party really want to go down this path? Do you not realize the hell you will unleash? You don't see any scenario where this could bite the democrats in the ass?

Or are you so singularly focused on trying to get Trump impeached and thrown out of office you have lost sight of everything else?

You people never learn. But, you never disappoint. You make it so easy to predict your actions

it hasn't been used ( or written) since the HARING adm. -Teapot Dome..frankly given the confidentiality on tax returns
I think a SCOTUS would say there needs to be PC

 

[Teflon Don]

If you ASSume something its not my fault.

I didn't assume anything Brad. I know your game. Better than you do. You think you are being coy with the things you post, but you are not. You ate the Collusion Nothing Burger like everyone else despite what you try to claim here.

 

[dukkha]

Link please.



They are not examining evidence; they are attempting to FISH for it. There is no evidence and therefore, no criminal referral. It is NOT the job of the House of Representatives to FISH for crimes.



It is FISHING when there is no evidence of criminal activity. You cannot conduct a kangaroo court in the House of Representatives over perceptions of acts you don't like. They do that in third world shit holes like Zimbabwe.



NOT a crime dumb fuck.



You poor sad, pathetic dumb fuck; it is not the Congresses role to conduct INVESTIGATIONS to determine criminality. That is REFERRED to the Justice Department within their jurisdiction. You cannot conduct a kangaroo court in the House of Representatives over perceptions of acts you don't like. They do that in third world shit holes like Zimbabwe.



You look stupid and pathetic even when you cry snowflake.

of course it's FISHING.. they have nothing actionalbe

 

[Teflon Don]

it hasn't been used ( or written) since the HARING adm. -Teapot Dome..frankly given the confidentiality on tax returns
I think a SCOTUS would say there needs to be PC

I agree. I haven't checked, but I don't suspect that it has ever been challenged and more importantly I would love to know how many times and when Congress has exercised the power. I know JPP leftists claim that "it doesn't matter", but if this is the only instance of Congress using that power it does not bode well for them in my view.

I would guess that they will make due process arguments and want to know why Congress wants to see them. Of course leftists keep maintaining "it's the law", but like I said, not every law is just and this will be challenged.

You have to remember, when the Mueller balloon popped, these JPP leftists were left scared and alone. They have fallen back on Trump's taxes. They think that will be their ticket now

 

[Truth Detector]

False. All the chairman needs for "standing" is to be the chairman, according to the law.

Really? That is a very low standard; something you would expect in a shit hole like Zimbabwe. So tell me; the Chairman of a House Committee is perfectly within his jurisdiction to investigate a President just because he is not of the same political party? Or perhaps because he doesn't like the President? Maybe it is because he thinks a SC report didn't tell him what he wanted to hear?

 

[Stretch]

Dems have a history of going after opponents using the IRS.

 

[Jarod]

Really? That is a very low standard; something you would expect in a shit hole like Zimbabwe. So tell me; the Chairman of a House Committee is perfectly within his jurisdiction to investigate a President just because he is not of the same political party? Or perhaps because he doesn't like the President? Maybe it is because he thinks a SC report didn't tell him what he wanted to hear?

Yes

 

[Jarod]

Dems have a history of going after opponents using the IRS.

So do Rebutlicans.

 

[Truth Detector]

Yes

So you are of the mistaken opinion that the House can investigate for political purposes? How do you arrive at such moronic conclusions? Do you believe we live in a shit hole like Zimbabwe?

 

[Truth Detector]

So do Rebutlicans.

LINK?

 

[Earl]

"Fifth Amendment" Lois Lerner, of IRS infamy, comes to mind.