Pursuant to law, Congress asks IRS Director for 6 years of Trumps tax returns. . .

Right so the IRS will be the ones releasing them to the House Chairman in closed session, right? It will be the IRS doing the releasing right? That is what I said, that it would be the IRS correct?

What will be the legal purpose of requesting a Presidents personal tax records in CLOSED SESSION?
 
That depends on what reasoning the Chairman uses to obtain the tax returns. Is their criminality involved? If so, what?

We've recently concluded a very BROAD $40 million investigation into this which has resulted in NOTHING criminal being found. What else do you think he can find?

Where does the law say he needs a reason? By the way he stated a reason... even though he did not need one.
 
Do you really think the courts will uphold that Congress can just willy nilly look at anyones tax returns without having a good reason? You don't think the Courts will have a due process concern about it?

This is the crux of the whole argument; the precedent it sets is that a political party in control of the House can engage in gathering personal information for partisan political purposes with no legal basis.

Only willful idiots and morons on steroids can think this would be a great idea.

I truly think that TDS infected brains believe that everyone agrees with their hatred of Trump and the rule of law.
 
Same law that NIXONS returns and FORD'S returns. Not even a question that CONGRESS can have them.

Nixon tax returns were handed over to the House? When did that happen? Nixon also was under criminal investigation snowflake. Is Trump under any criminal investigation? What crimes?

Ford's returns???? When did Congress demand Ford's tax returns.
 
Thanks for admitting you know of no legal grounds for a challenge. Now, where did I say Mueller would take down trump over collusion? I always maintained I did not know if there was collusion but I would wait for the Mueller report, which they are currently sitting on.

So you never posted things like "This looks like collusion to me"? Nothing to that effect?
 
The Chairman said that oversight is his mandate, (it is) and because of Trumps extensive business dealings with foreign adversaries (I would have added because of the fact he lied to the American people about those relationships) he must see the tax returns to evaluate the conflict of interest.
 
SO you are admitting I was correct, the IRS will be releasing them to the Chair of the House committee?

No; I am pointing out how terribly wrong you are believing that a House committee can conduct unprecedented which hunts against their political opposition without naming any criminal actions. I am also trying to point out that we are not a Fascistic third world shit hole lacking the rule of law.

So what LEGAL basis will Cummings use to obtain these records in CLOSED session and to what LEGAL purpose?
 
Where does the law say he needs a reason?

So your LEGAL argument is that a partisan House committee does not need any reason at all to look into the personal business of the President?

By the way he stated a reason... even though he did not need one.

What was that and why doesn't he need one? You mean that in the future, whoever controls the House, or the Senate, can conduct investigations against the opposition without cause? Seriously???
 
The Chairman said that oversight is his mandate, (it is) and because of Trumps extensive business dealings with foreign adversaries (I would have added because of the fact he lied to the American people about those relationships) he must see the tax returns to evaluate the conflict of interest.

That is a very weak and pathetic argument. So if a US citizen has dealings with foreign entities, their personal tax returns and business dealings are somehow connected with criminality and can be demanded to be reviewed in CLOSED session? Why? Trump has been President for slightly more than two years and during most of that time investigated by a SP. That SP found nothing criminal. How is it the Houses responsibility to continue an investigation where no crimes have been committed?

Tell me something; is it the Congress's purview to conduct criminal investigations? Yes or no?
 
I might have, but I did not say what you claim about Mueller taking Trump down due to Collusion.

So far, you are batting ZERO on this topic snowflake. I see you are trying to keep your record of ZERO perfect. Yay you! :clap:

QUOTE=Jarod; Don Jr. is going to be indicted, I cant wait to see how that plays out. I expect it in December or January.

QUOTE=Jarod; Meeting with Russians to get them to give something of value to your campaign is a crime.
How can they deny that?
Junior will be indicted and if they can prove Rump himself knew about it he will go down.
Funny to watch Rump throw his son under the bus this morning.

QUOTE=Jarod; I would guess after the November election, around Thanksgiving you will get a full report. 9/14/2018

QUOTE=Jarod; Some people from the Trump campaign are going to prison over Russian collusion. 11-28-18

QUOTE=Jarod; They will work hard to prevent release until at least after November of 2020. 02/21/2019
 
26 U.S.C. 6103(f)(1)...

(1) Committee on Ways and Means, Committee on Finance, and Joint Committee on Taxation
Upon written request from the chairman of the Committee on Ways and Means of the House of Representatives, the chairman of the Committee on Finance of the Senate, or the chairman of the Joint Committee on Taxation, the Secretary shall furnish such committee with any return or return information specified in such request, except that any return or return information which can be associated with, or otherwise identify, directly or indirectly, a particular taxpayer shall be furnished to such committee only when sitting in closed executive session unless such taxpayer otherwise consents in writing to such disclosure.

EXCEPT

YOU DUMB FAKE LAWYER
 
The Party and individual who demanded President Obama release his Birth Certificate is fighting to keep Rump's tax returns secret.

The democrats? Who filed in court the first request? A Democrat or Republican?
 
Well, if you don't see it, then I don't see how you could possibly be wrong. I mean you couldn't see how Mueller wouldn't find COLLUSION so.................

We have even LESS idea what Mueller found or didn't than we did a week ago. Talk about the law of unintended consequences. Keep screaming, raging and tweeting DONNIE!
 
That is a very weak and pathetic argument. So if a US citizen has dealings with foreign entities, their personal tax returns and business dealings are somehow connected with criminality and can be demanded to be reviewed in CLOSED session? Why? Trump has been President for slightly more than two years and during most of that time investigated by a SP. That SP found nothing criminal. How is it the Houses responsibility to continue an investigation where no crimes have been committed?

Tell me something; is it the Congress's purview to conduct criminal investigations? Yes or no?

The President isn't just a "US citizen who has dealings with foreign entities," he is the head of the Executive Branch, and one of the roles of the Congressional Oversight Committee is to oversee the Executive Branch as part of Constitutional checks and balances

This doesn't mean they are "phishing" nor looking for a crime, but reviewing questionable activity. Trump's refusal to step back from his businesses while questions exist that he is using his position for his own personal gain merits review, the function of the Committee. Income Tax returns would be an obvious location to examine connections

Just because Trump's lackeys in the House employed these powers to defend and spread Trump's interests for the last two years doesn't mean that now that thier purpose is solely political
 
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