Simple solutions to school shootings

[Taichiliberal]

He could have killed more with a big truck, timed it right when a big crowd was present like at a ball game etc

Got that?

But he didn't, because he was far more effective in what he did....or do you think that he would go through the trouble to learn how to drive a "big truck" (how big are you talking?) and then buy or steal one?
Essentially, you're dodging a matter of fact & history with hypothetical scenarios in order to avoid the logical conclusions of the OP...which just leaves the gate open for the next murderous nut job to do the same thing withe the same type of weapon. Got that?

 

[CFM]

....most vehicles whose use is limited to private property, are not always required to be registered.
and you can drive all over your own property without insurance....
There is no requirement that you have a driver's license to own or purchase a vehicle.

Like I said, the op is nonsense...anyone can buy a car....you don't have to drive it, you don't have to take a test, you don't have to register it, you don't have be physically fit, etc.....

so do you really want guns laws to mimic car laws ?

I have a friend that has a very large farm. He has several vehicles used solely on the property. No tag and no registration.

 

[CFM]

But he didn't, because he was far more effective in what he did....or do you think that he would go through the trouble to learn how to drive a "big truck" (how big are you talking?) and then buy or steal one?
Essentially, you're dodging a matter of fact & history with hypothetical scenarios in order to avoid the logical conclusions of the OP...which just leaves the gate open for the next murderous nut job to do the same thing withe the same type of weapon. Got that?

Let's make it simple. If you don't think that people should own certain guns, bring that Taichi nonsense and try to take them.

 

[Taichiliberal]

Moron... I am showing you that you are WRONG. They are not MILITARY use. Even law enforcement aren't issued M16's. They also use the NON MILITARY AR15 Semiauto. You fucking retard.

Once again, you demonstrate how Super Freak-ing Dense you are.
Observe & learn:
ArmaLite first developed the AR-15 in the late 1950s as a military rifle, but had limited success in selling it. In 1959 the company sold the design to Colt.

https://www.npr.org/2018/02/28/588861820/a-brief-history-of-the-ar-15

https://www.amazon.com/Shoot-Your-AR-15-Training-Combat/dp/0873648889

gunners just love to split hairs and ignore what they don't like...but not even the majority of NRA membership is buying your BS anymore. the OP stands valid.

 

[CFM]

Owning a gun TO FORM A WELL REGULATED MILITIA, is a right. General ownership is a privilege, NOT a right. Got that?

Cars require license and registration in order to limit the amount of accidents and theft. So why shouldn't the same exist for devices designed to kill?

That's not what the Constitution says despite what you gun haters want it to say.

However, since you want to emphasize the militia, according to my State's laws, I'm part of it.

Having a license and a car being registered have nothing to do with whether it's in an accident or stolen.


Let's make it simple. I have FOUR of the type of gun you don't like. If you don't want me to have them, come get them.

 

[USFREEDOM911]

Owning a gun TO FORM A WELL REGULATED MILITIA, is a right. General ownership is a privilege, NOT a right. Got that?

Cars require license and registration in order to limit the amount of accidents and theft. So why shouldn't the same exist for devices designed to kill?

Where does the Constitution imply TO FORM??

 

[NOVA]

I have a friend that has a very large farm. He has several vehicles used solely on the property. No tag and no registration.

Tell that to our ignorant liberal.....

Anyone can buy a car....the only requirement is money.....
No license or inspection is required to operate on private property
No registration or insurance is required if its kept on private proper

This is hardly an extreme exception, it is a fact of life...

Ownership of a gun IS A RIGHT, plainly spelled out in the 2nd Amendment of the Constitution as interpreted by the SCOTUS and that is the way its been for over 250 years....

tcliberal....Cars require license and registration in order to limit the amount of accidents and theft. So why shouldn't the same exist for devices designed to kill?

In reality, cars kill more people on the streets of the US than guns, which are "designed to protect"......

Some 268.8 million vehicles were registered here in 2016. The figures include passenger cars, motorcycles, trucks, buses, and other vehicles. There are an estimated
100,000 more guns here than vehicles.....and kill far less.

 

[RB 60]

Owning a gun TO FORM A WELL REGULATED MILITIA, is a right. General ownership is a privilege, NOT a right. Got that?

Cars require license and registration in order to limit the amount of accidents and theft. So why shouldn't the same exist for devices designed to kill?

I don't see the word "privilege" anywhere in the 2nd. Amendment. Can you point it out to us?
Cars require license and registration to provide money for road maintenance, repair and
building new roads. It has nothing to do with limiting accidents or theft.

 

[CFM]

Tell that to our ignorant liberal.....

Anyone can buy a car....the only requirement is money.....
No license or inspection is required to operate on private property
No registration or insurance is required if its kept on private proper

This is hardly an extreme exception, it is a fact of life...

Ownership of a gun IS A RIGHT, plainly spelled out in the 2nd Amendment of the Constitution as interpreted by the SCOTUS and that is the way its been for over 250 years....



In reality, cars kill more people on the streets of the US than guns, which are "designed to protect"......

Some 268.8 million vehicles were registered here in 2016. The figures include passenger cars, motorcycles, trucks, buses, and other vehicles. There are an estimated
100,000 more guns here than vehicles.....and kill far less.

For it to register, he has to be willing to listen.

I've sold cars to people. The only requirement I have is they paid me. What they did after it belonged to them was on them not me.

 

[Superfreak]

Once again, you demonstrate how Super Freak-ing Dense you are.
Observe & learn:
ArmaLite first developed the AR-15 in the late 1950s as a military rifle, but had limited success in selling it. In 1959 the company sold the design to Colt.

https://www.npr.org/2018/02/28/588861820/a-brief-history-of-the-ar-15

https://www.amazon.com/Shoot-Your-AR-15-Training-Combat/dp/0873648889

gunners just love to split hairs and ignore what they don't like...but not even the majority of NRA membership is buying your BS anymore. the OP stands valid.

Again you fucking idiot... No one is talking about AR's from the late 50's. They are talking about what is available today you fucking moron.

No one is buying your nonsense. You are simply spouting off crap and hoping something sticks.

 

[Superfreak]

Once again, you demonstrate how Super Freak-ing Dense you are.
Observe & learn:
ArmaLite first developed the AR-15 in the late 1950s as a military rifle, but had limited success in selling it. In 1959 the company sold the design to Colt.

https://www.npr.org/2018/02/28/588861820/a-brief-history-of-the-ar-15

https://www.amazon.com/Shoot-Your-AR-15-Training-Combat/dp/0873648889

gunners just love to split hairs and ignore what they don't like...but not even the majority of NRA membership is buying your BS anymore. the OP stands valid.

But it is truly funny when you don't even read your own links.

 

[Text Drivers are Killers]

Okay, listen up NRA flunkies and republican/conservative wonks. To prevent shootings like what recently happened in Florida, you do the following:

1. Reinstate the Assault Weapons Ban. Had this been in place, Cruz would NOT have had an AR-15 in his possession.

2. Treat ALL weapons like an automobile.

If we're going to equate guns and cars then we must also ban driving a car to the millions of americans who have been convicted of a felony or misdemeanor domestic abuse. Do you libs want that.?

 

[Taichiliberal]

Tell that to our ignorant liberal.....

Anyone can buy a car....the only requirement is money.....
No license or inspection is required to operate on private property
No registration or insurance is required if its kept on private proper

This is hardly an extreme exception, it is a fact of life...

Ownership of a gun IS A RIGHT, plainly spelled out in the 2nd Amendment of the Constitution as interpreted by the SCOTUS and that is the way its been for over 250 years....



In reality, cars kill more people on the streets of the US than guns, which are "designed to protect"......

Some 268.8 million vehicles were registered here in 2016. The figures include passenger cars, motorcycles, trucks, buses, and other vehicles. There are an estimated
100,000 more guns here than vehicles.....and kill far less.

CFM is on IA because he's an insipidly stubborn person proud of his willful ignorance and thus not worth debating....seems he's found a kindred spirit in you.

Please provide the valid, documented proof from anywhere in the USA that anyone 18 on up in age can just purchase a car without a valid driver's license. How do they get it from the dealership to their private property? Are you saying that Mr. Smith goes to a dealer, gives him cash and then has a friend drive the car (or has it delivered) to his property TO BE DRIVEN ONLY THERE? If so, then you are describing a COLLECTOR. Well guess what genius, THERE HAS TO BE A BILL OF SALE STATING OWNERSHIP. If the car is loaned and in an accident or traffic violation, then the OWNER IS RESPONSIBLE along with the person. If the car is STOLEN and/or used in a crime, then it can be traced to the dealership and the owner.

So once again, a means of tracking ownership is necessary. A matter of fact, a matter of history. And yes, gun ownership TO FORM A WELL REGULATED MILITIA is a right. That's why you have various states determine their individual laws for gun ownership in general...which is why as the country evolved so military grade weapons are kept out of the general public circulation as much as possible. That is why American's enjoy the privilege of general gun purchase and ownership.

And please stop parroting that dumb ass mantra about cars killing more people than guns. Car ACCIDENTS occur due to the sheer volume of cars in daily use 24/7. Cars are NOT designed to kill, guns are...whether to "protect" or to "attack". The OP stands valid, and NRA flunkies like you just prattle on.

 

[Taichiliberal]

If we're going to equate guns and cars then we must also ban driving a car to the millions of americans who have been convicted of a felony or misdemeanor domestic abuse. Do you libs want that.?

Are you fucking stupid or what? VEHICULAR ACCIDENTS cause deaths. Cars are NOT designed to kill....and it is a RARITY if one is used in a homicide. Guns are designed to kill...whether to "protect" or "attack". And yes, there are accidental gun deaths. So again, what is the problem with license and registration of guns. To date, I can't get a straight answer from folks like you.

 

[NOVA]

CFM is on IA because he's an insipidly stubborn person proud of his willful ignorance and thus not worth debating....seems he's found a kindred spirit in you.

Please provide the valid, documented proof from anywhere in the USA that anyone 18 on up in age can just purchase a car without a valid driver's license. How do they get it from the dealership to their private property? Are you saying that Mr. Smith goes to a dealer, gives him cash and then has a friend drive the car (or has it delivered) to his property TO BE DRIVEN ONLY THERE? If so, then you are describing a COLLECTOR. Well guess what genius, THERE HAS TO BE A BILL OF SALE STATING OWNERSHIP. If the car is loaned and in an accident or traffic violation, then the OWNER IS RESPONSIBLE along with the person. If the car is STOLEN and/or used in a crime, then it can be traced to the dealership and the owner.

So once again, a means of tracking ownership is necessary. A matter of fact, a matter of history. And yes, gun ownership TO FORM A WELL REGULATED MILITIA is a right. That's why you have various states determine their individual laws for gun ownership in general...which is why as the country evolved so military grade weapons are kept out of the general public circulation as much as possible. That is why American's enjoy the privilege of general gun purchase and ownership.

And please stop parroting that dumb ass mantra about cars killing more people than guns. Car ACCIDENTS occur due to the sheer volume of cars in daily use 24/7. Cars are NOT designed to kill, guns are...whether to "protect" or to "attack". The OP stands valid, and NRA flunkies like you just prattle on.

You could have made your post much shorter by simply admitting you can't refute anything I said.....and it might help you to read up on SCOTUS cases
concerning the 2nd amendment....its the reason we STILL today can buy and own guns.....

In general, a juvenile/minor cannot enter into a contract so thus cannot be a sole owner of a motor vehicle. A minor typically cannot own property, his or her parents technically own that property until the child becomes an adult.
State laws vary….For example, in Texas there are no age restrictions for an individual to be recorded as the owner of a vehicle.
In North Carolina, the DOT states that their laws do not set a minimum age limit as to ownership of a vehicle as long as the owner can sign their name on the application of title.
IN some states, if you are under 18 and want to title a vehicle, your parent or legal guardian must complete a minor consent form.

 

[SmarterthanYou]

CFM is on IA because he's an insipidly stubborn person proud of his willful ignorance and thus not worth debating....seems he's found a kindred spirit in you.

Please provide the valid, documented proof from anywhere in the USA that anyone 18 on up in age can just purchase a car without a valid driver's license. How do they get it from the dealership to their private property? Are you saying that Mr. Smith goes to a dealer, gives him cash and then has a friend drive the car (or has it delivered) to his property TO BE DRIVEN ONLY THERE? If so, then you are describing a COLLECTOR. Well guess what genius, THERE HAS TO BE A BILL OF SALE STATING OWNERSHIP. If the car is loaned and in an accident or traffic violation, then the OWNER IS RESPONSIBLE along with the person. If the car is STOLEN and/or used in a crime, then it can be traced to the dealership and the owner.

So once again, a means of tracking ownership is necessary. A matter of fact, a matter of history. And yes, gun ownership TO FORM A WELL REGULATED MILITIA is a right. That's why you have various states determine their individual laws for gun ownership in general...which is why as the country evolved so military grade weapons are kept out of the general public circulation as much as possible. That is why American's enjoy the privilege of general gun purchase and ownership.

And please stop parroting that dumb ass mantra about cars killing more people than guns. Car ACCIDENTS occur due to the sheer volume of cars in daily use 24/7. Cars are NOT designed to kill, guns are...whether to "protect" or to "attack". The OP stands valid, and NRA flunkies like you just prattle on.

this very day, I could go and buy a vehicle from any lot, get it insured, and then drive it around anywhere i choose to..........can you refute that?

 

[Taichiliberal]

But it is truly funny when you don't even read your own links.

What's funny, dummy? You highlight the limited success in sales to the gov't as what, vindication of your parroted mantra? That's hysterical, given how YOU ignore the preceding....ArmaLite first developed the AR-15 in the late 1950s as a military rifle,.

Grow the fuck up, you Super Freaking Dunce! You were WRONG. Deal with it.

 

[Taichiliberal]

this very day, I could go and buy a vehicle from any lot, get it insured, and then drive it around anywhere i choose to..........can you refute that?

No, because to get it insured YOU create an official document of ownership...and you have to have a driver's license to drive it. Thanks for proving my point. All this BS from folk who to date can't logically or factually explain why the OP is such a bad idea.

 

[NOVA]

Must be tiresome moving the goalposts with every post you make....

 

[Taichiliberal]

You could have made your post much shorter by simply admitting you can't refute anything I said.....and it might help you to read up on SCOTUS cases
concerning the 2nd amendment....its the reason we STILL today can buy and own guns.....

And once again Nova proves to be one of the dumbest right wing flunkies on this website. Note how he just refuses to respond to how I took HIS premise to it's logical conclusion and proved his original assertion wrong.

Also, the little dummy keeps carrying on about the SCOTUS....yet he fails to acknowledge that the SCOTUS NEVER stated that the American citizen can have any type of weapon they want (which is why you can't have military issued weapons), nor did the SCOTUS deem the Brady Bill or the Assault Weapons Ban unconstitutional.

Nope, Nova just parrots on with his hands covering ears and eyes like a good little monkey. Pathetic, but not unexpected.