Trump's statement on terrorist attack

Shooter Omar said:
Indeed he did sign it, with the understanding it would be renegotiated. A fact which jibes with the video link I posted where Bush basically called it. Obama wanted out of Iraq, consequences be damned. And they turned out to be some pretty damnable consequences.
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Darth Hussein Omar said:
Indeed he did sign it, with the understanding it would be renegotiated. A fact which jibes with the video link I posted where Bush basically called it.

Obama wanted out of Iraq, consequences be damned. And they turned out to be some pretty damnable consequences.
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"President George W. Bush hailed the passing of the agreement between the two countries. "The Security Agreement addresses our presence, activities, and withdrawal from Iraq", Bush said. He continued that "two years ago, this day seemed unlikely - but the success of the surge and the courage of the Iraqi people set the conditions for these two agreements to be negotiated and approved by the Iraqi parliament".[SUP][39][/SUP]
 
Darth Hussein Omar said:
Indeed he did sign it, with the understanding it would be renegotiated. A fact which jibes with the video link I posted where Bush basically called it.

Obama wanted out of Iraq, consequences be damned. And they turned out to be some pretty damnable consequences.
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Shut the fuck up liar.
The facts are clear.
Bush started the fucking war and owns the entire fiasco.
 
Yes Bush wanted us to stay. Yes Obama promised to get us out.
Start from there and you see everybody did what they could to advance their agenda..

But al-Malki would not agree to US immunity from prosecution under Iraqi law..(submitted to Iraqi parliament )
and that along with no real desire to stay sealed the deal.

Not that I think anything cold have kept al-Maliki from purging the Sunni officer corps
 
anatta said:
Yes Bush wanted us to stay. Yes Obama promised to get us out.
Start from there and you see everybody did what they could to advance their agenda..

But al-Malki would not agree to US immunity from prosecution under Iraqi law..(submitted to Iraqi parliament )
and that along with no real desire to stay sealed the deal.

Not that I think anything cold have kept al-Maliki from purging the Sunni officer corps
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OMG Another revisionist.
 
christiefan915 said:
"President George W. Bush hailed the passing of the agreement between the two countries. "The Security Agreement addresses our presence, activities, and withdrawal from Iraq", Bush said. He continued that "two years ago, this day seemed unlikely - but the success of the surge and the courage of the Iraqi people set the conditions for these two agreements to be negotiated and approved by the Iraqi parliament".[SUP][39][/SUP]
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Not sure what that's supposed to prove. The Sofa expired and it was Bush's wish that it be *successfully* renegotiated after he left office.

And he predicted what would happen if it wasn't.
 
anatta said:
Yes Bush wanted us to stay. Yes Obama promised to get us out.
Start from there and you see everybody did what they could to advance their agenda..

But al-Malki would not agree to US immunity from prosecution under Iraqi law..(submitted to Iraqi parliament )
and that along with no real desire to stay sealed the deal.

Not that I think anything cold have kept al-Maliki from purging the Sunni officer corps
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Immunity from prosecution was the sticking point. A determined Oval Office would have pressured Malaki---offered a concession [made a deal like Trump lol?] to get another one signed.

Obama wasn't particularly motivated. He's irrelevant now but Hillary isn't it. She's up to her neck in this: not only is she on record voting for the invasion, she was Sec State when the ball was dropped under Obama.

But her supporters don't care, do they.
 
Darth Hussein Omar said:
Immunity from prosecution was the sticking point. A determined Oval Office would have pressured Malaki---offered a concession [made a deal like Trump lol?] to get another one signed.

Obama wasn't particularly motivated. He's irrelevant now but Hillary isn't it. She's up to her neck in this: not only is she on record voting for the invasion, she was Sec State when the ball was dropped under Obama.

But her supporters don't care, do they.
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having the re-negotiated SOFA pass an Iraqi Parliament would have been a big lift.
It might have kept the Iraqi army a professional corp, instead of a sectarian monster -but we'll never know.

I don't think there is a lot of political gain in claiming Hilary was complicent in leaving Iraq.
Americans think Iraq a failure, and are glad to be out.

The wildcard is ISIS,
but I do not know if Americans can digest the idea that a professional army could have kept AQI from morphing into ISIS.
 
anatta said:
having the re-negotiated SOFA pass an Iraqi Parliament would have been a big lift.
It might have kept the Iraqi army a professional corp, instead of a sectarian monster -but we'll never know.

I don't think there is a lot of political gain in claiming Hilary was complicent in leaving Iraq.
Americans think Iraq a failure, and are glad to be out.

The wildcard is ISIS,
but I do not know if Americans can digest the idea that a professional army could have kept AQI from morphing into ISIS.
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I brought Hillary in because she's the only one politically relevant. But yeah, Iraq is water under the bridge for the most part.
 
Darth Hussein Omar said:
I brought Hillary in because she's the only one politically relevant. But yeah, Iraq is water under the bridge for the most part.
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well. there is a nasty ground war going on in Fallujah now with Shiite militias, Iranian regulars, and Iraqi's sorta following lead.

And the US is once again there with Special Forces and air strikes
 
He's right on the money with this one.

The left IS trying to destroy America, so they can recreate it into their marxist version.

Importing American hating Jihadist is part of their plan.
 
anatta said:
having the re-negotiated SOFA pass an Iraqi Parliament would have been a big lift.
It might have kept the Iraqi army a professional corp, instead of a sectarian monster -but we'll never know.

I don't think there is a lot of political gain in claiming Hilary was complicent in leaving Iraq.
Americans think Iraq a failure, and are glad to be out.

The wildcard is ISIS,
but I do not know if Americans can digest the idea that a professional army could have kept AQI from morphing into ISIS.
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Pulling the troops out of Iraq to quickly created ISIS. So the American people should care about that. Of course the rotten media sweeps it under the rug. Blames Global Warming, or racism.
 
DigitalDave said:
Judging from their critical thinking skills displayed in this thread alone, my guess is if you collectively added all of their IQs together, and converted that number into gallons of oil, you couldn't fill up a Tesla.

Seriously though, what the fuck does it matter what Obama calls this? By placing every god damn label on every god damn thing, we've alienated entire cultures and fed right into the fucked up teachings that these murderers have been brainwashed with. How easy it is now to teach impressionable young children that America hates them and we want to destroy their culture. We create entire generations of murderers ready and willing to die to kill us.

Label it what the fuck you want, this nutjob was a murderer and a terrorists who had been brainwashed by a fringe group of other nutjobs. THAT's the truth, and the real problem. You want to stop this shit from happening, it takes generations of change. There won't be a single damn thing you can do to stop it until you realize that our only hope is to end the brainwashing, and it isn't Islamic brainwashing, it's just fucking brainwashing. Same shit can happen using Christian texts if you wanted to start a terrorist group right here in the southern USA. Oh wait, the KKK exists.
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Which KKK is that, seeing as how there are many who are using KKK?
 
Darth Hussein Omar said:
Oh, deliver us from the scary Klansman lol.

The Klan is some serious JV.
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Maybe he was referring to:
Keskuskauppakamari (Finnish: Central Chamber of Commerce)
Krusty Komedy Klassic (The Simpsons)
Kara Kuvvetleri Komutanligi (Turkish)
Kernkraftwerk Krümmel GmbH (Krümmel, Germany nuclear plant)
Kataastaasan, Kagalanggalangan na Katipunan (Philippine revolutionary movement in early 1800's)
Kitakubu Katsudou Kiroku (Japanese anime)
Kentucky Kyudo Kai (Japanese archery)
Kainan sa Kalye Kanluran (eatery; Philippines)

There are others; but my favorite is the one that Darla, Rana, Rune, and Christie founded.
The Kennel Klub Kabal. :D
 
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