Trump's statement on terrorist attack

DigitalDave said:
You're moronic rebuttal to defend the fence between religions completely misses the point of my post. The KKK is a fringe group who used the bible to brainwash their followers. We should just call them Radical Christians to be fair.
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Have at it lol.

But it begs the question of which of the two groups abuses their respective religions the worst. But most PC types don't want that debate.
 
tsuke said:
actions speak louder than words :) you cant even label them islamic terrorists lol.
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And you were probably one of those who called Iraq War opponents "terrorist sympathizers" too.

You guys never learn. You just plow through history, being enthusiastically wrong about everything and repeating the same mistakes over & over again.
 
Darth Hussein Omar said:
Have at it lol.

But it begs the question of which of the two groups abuses their respective religions the worst. But most PC types don't want that debate.
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I don't agree that it begs the question of who's worse, but as you can easily see, by pointing that out I immediately marginalized Christians and made them uncomfortable.
 
tsuke said:
how many people are actually in the KKK? How much political power do they actually hold? I understand Byrd got to senator for the dems but that was years ago.

Now compare that to ISIS who actually have a country.

The left condemn christians yet coddle islamic terrorism any chance they get.

Yet it is the muslims trying to kill them :)

It is no coincidence the guy was a democrat. They know which side is helping them.
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I googled the Klan numbers awhile back after the San Bernadino shootings, because the Klan ALWAYS comes up after an Islamic terror attack. Must be a Godwins Law sort of thing lol.

It's a pathetically small number. Barely enough to fill a medium sized college football stadium. And that's out of how many millions of Christians in this country?
 
Thing1 said:
And you were probably one of those who called Iraq War opponents "terrorist sympathizers" too.

You guys never learn. You just plow through history, being enthusiastically wrong about everything and repeating the same mistakes over & over again.
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gross generalization without support..Many of us saw the Iraq war was an upcoming disaster.
Clinton did not -nor did she learn when it came to Libya/Syria..

But we also recognize this is a real long war -asymmetrical . with civilian combatants..
Calling it what it is has benefits, besides clarity
 
anatta said:
gross generalization without support..Many of us saw the Iraq war was an upcoming disaster.
Clinton did not -nor did she learn when it came to Libya/Syria..

But we also recognize this is a real long war -asymmetrical . with civilian combatants..
Calling it what it is has benefits, besides clarity
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Who in the world do you mean by "most of us"?

It was the far lefties that opposed the war. I would love to put anyone here who is even slightly aligned on the right to a lie detector test on their support of the Iraq War in 2003. There were VERY few conservatives who opposed it, even moderate conservatives.

And the left got the SAME rhetoric - terrorist sympathizers, terrorist defenders, et al. Same thing. This is total deja vu.

And I have no doubt whatsoever: tsuke was one of those guys. No doubt.
 
evince said:
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/06/16/opinion/the-other-terror-threat.html?_r=0



Since 9/11, an average of nine American Muslims per year have been involved in an average of six terrorism-related plots against targets in the United States. Most were disrupted, but the 20 plots that were carried out accounted for 50 fatalities over the past 13 and a half years.

In contrast, right-wing extremists averaged 337 attacks per year in the decade after 9/11, causing a total of 254 fatalities, according to a study by Arie Perliger, a professor at the United States Military Academy’s Combating Terrorism Center. The toll has increased since the study was released in 2012.
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why do you not count 9/11 ? :)
 
Thing1 said:
Who in the world do you mean by "most of us"?

It was the far lefties that opposed the war. I would love to put anyone here who is even slightly aligned on the right to a lie detector test on their support of the Iraq War in 2003. There were VERY few conservatives who opposed it, even moderate conservatives.

And the left got the SAME rhetoric - terrorist sympathizers, terrorist defenders, et al. Same thing. This is total deja vu.

And I have no doubt whatsoever: tsuke was one of those guys. No doubt.
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we didnt know we would do stupid nation building after. We thought it was get in and get out.
 
because you are stupid fucking history void assholes who believe anything the republican masters tell you
 
Thing1 said:
See - told you tsuke was one of those guys.
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it was an opportunity to hit back against terrorists. If we had just killed them all then handed it over to the next dictator everything would be great and we would have a friendly govt. Same with afghanistna.

Forcing people who have no use for democracy to be one is just stupid.
 
tsuke said:
it was an opportunity to hit back against terrorists. If we had just killed them all then handed it over to the next dictator everything would be great and we would have a friendly govt. Same with afghanistna.

Forcing people who have no use for democracy to be one is just stupid.
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So, committing Genocide would have went well in the minds of everyone left. We would never have anyone wanting to kill us then!
 
tsuke said:
it was an opportunity to hit back against terrorists. If we had just killed them all then handed it over to the next dictator everything would be great and we would have a friendly govt. Same with afghanistna.

Forcing people who have no use for democracy to be one is just stupid.
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Iraq didn't attack us, dummy.

Seriously, you shouldn't vote. The bolded shows how dangerously ignorant you are. Trump counts on that, but it shouldn't determine the course of our country.
 
tsuke said:
we didnt know we would do stupid nation building after. We thought it was get in and get out.
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Not that I think it was worth the blood and treasure, but the nation building was actually working when Bush left office. And he warned, prophetically almost, what would happen if we didn't leave enough troops there to maintain security. Obama promised to pull out of Iraq [the 'bad war'] during the 2008 campaign; the Iraqis bulked at a Status of Forces agreement, Obama saw a political opening and went for it----and the rest is very bloody history.
 
evince said:
The Growing Right-Wing Terror Threat


By CHARLES KURZMAN and DAVID SCHANZERJUNE 16, 2015




http://www.nytimes.com/2015/06/16/opinion/the-other-terror-threat.html



right wing assholes win
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Since 9/11, an average of nine American Muslims per year have been involved in an average of six terrorism-related plots against targets in the United States. Most were disrupted, but the 20 plots that were carried out accounted for 50 fatalities over the past 13 and a half years.

In contrast, right-wing extremists averaged 337 attacks per year in the decade after 9/11, causing a total of 254 fatalities, according to a study by Arie Perliger, a professor at the United States Military Academy’s Combating Terrorism Center. The toll has increased since the study was released in 2012.
 
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