If they Republicans wanted an outsider?

Jarod

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If the Republicans wanted an outsider why did they not go with Randall Paul?

While I don't agree with him generally, he is a free thinker who is beyond the usual Washington, D.C. crap. He speaks his mind, he is intelligent, is it because he does not have the hint of Xenophobia they love in Trump?

Why not Fiorina? She is a Washington, D.C. outsider, a true conservative (unlike Trump), and she surely speaks her mind. No hint of Xenophobia, but she is a split tail.

There were better and more Conservative options if it was an outsider they wanted. I don't buy the standard party line that Trump is so popular due to his outsider status or because he is not PC and speaks his mind. He has taped into a frustrated vein or racist and xenophobic Americans who are frustrated because it is no longer acceptable to have such ideas.

Once Trump gets the nomination, watch him veer strongly left, chose a leftist VP and make a serious run at winning. I simply hate to see America turn backward toward the fear of our minorities.
 
Have any of you heard the ads the White supremacists are running in New Hampshire supporting Trump?
 
The Republicans don't want an outsider. That's why they've been trying to foil Trump.
It's citizens who want outsiders because the parties took them for granted too long.
 
Remember when I told you that talk show hosts, etc. were now trying to make Trump into some "insider"?...

LOL

Anyway, Trump supporters are not conservative. I've mentioned this in the past. The vast majority of his support comes from the angry "middle" in the republican party. These people feel ignored by the conservatives and religious...
 
Damocles said:
Remember when I told you that talk show hosts, etc. were now trying to make Trump into some "insider"?...

LOL

Anyway, Trump supporters are not conservative. I've mentioned this in the past. The vast majority of his support comes from the angry "middle" in the republican party. These people feel ignored by the conservatives and religious...
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Yes the mushy middle. Left, right and middle.
 
Damocles said:
Remember when I told you that talk show hosts, etc. were now trying to make Trump into some "insider"?...

LOL

Anyway, Trump supporters are not conservative. I've mentioned this in the past. The vast majority of his support comes from the angry "middle" in the republican party. These people feel ignored by the conservatives and religious...
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So you believe more than 30% of Republican voters are not Conservatives?
 
Damocles said:
Remember when I told you that talk show hosts, etc. were now trying to make Trump into some "insider"?...

LOL

Anyway, Trump supporters are not conservative. I've mentioned this in the past. The vast majority of his support comes from the angry "middle" in the republican party. These people feel ignored by the conservatives and religious...
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I posted a link a few weeks past. Their are quite a few independents in the blue collar middle class mix- and I'd not be surprised if some were democrats.
 
I must admit I almost look forward now to this daily post of Jarod's on Trump and Republicans and how little he understands each.
 
J Craft said:
I posted a link a few weeks past. Their are quite a few independents in the blue collar middle class mix- and I'd not be surprised if some were democrats.
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I am sure some are Democrats. But the polling data says that over 30% of the Republican voters, nationwide are supporting Trump.
 
cawacko said:
I must admit I almost look forward now to this daily post of Jarod's on Trump and Republicans and how little he understands each.
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This is a POLITICAL discussion board. We discuss POLITICS. The fact of a Reality Television Show with an insatiable ego espousing bigoted ideas is likely to win the Republican nomination the biggest story in American politics these days, so I would suggest you should expect it will be discussed here.
 
Jarod said:
So you believe more than 30% of Republican voters are not Conservatives?
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That's right, they're moderates. This is why the GOP have run moderate candidates in the last 4 presidential elections, including Bush.

A solid conservative would be Walker, a social conservative would be Cruz. Walkers gone, that leaves Cruz as the only viable conservative left.
The two moderates still in are Rubio and Bush.
Trump is a populist with a conservative bent, but who has no solid footing with the base. He's an outsider who, unlike Paul is able to appeal to voters using the resentment they feel against the political class. Paul stood on principle and was unable to ignite this same disenfranchised, but very important, segment of voters.
 
J Craft said:
That's right, they're moderates. This is why the GOP have run moderate candidates in the last 4 presidential elections, including Bush.

A solid conservative would be Walker, a social conservative would be Cruz. Walkers gone, that leaves Cruz as the only viable conservative left.
The two moderates still in are Rubio and Bush.
Trump is a populist with a conservative bent, but who has no solid footing with the base. He's an outsider who, unlike Paul is able to appeal to voters using the resentment they feel against the political class. Paul stood on principle and was unable to ignite this same disenfranchised, but very important, segment of voters.
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So, based on your analysis, true Conservatives are a small minority in the United States, they only consist of, at most 60% or so of the the smaller of the two parties?
 
Jarod said:
This is a POLITICAL discussion board. We discuss POLITICS. The fact of a Reality Television Show with an insatiable ego espousing bigoted ideas is likely to win the Republican nomination the biggest story in American politics these days, so I would suggest you should expect it will be discussed here.
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It's like groundhogs day where you essentially ask the same question over and over. You either don't like the answer you get so you ask the question again hoping for a different answer or you are so disconnected that you can't understand.
 
cawacko said:
It's like groundhogs day where you essentially ask the same question over and over. You either don't like the answer you get so you ask the question again hoping for a different answer or you are so disconnected that you can't understand.
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Different discussion points on the same candidate. I know you don't want to be reminded of how your "Party" has devolved into a xenophobic mass of non-conservatives, but its fun for me.
 
Jarod said:
So, based on your analysis, true Conservatives are a small minority in the United States, they only consist of, at most 60% or so of the the smaller of the two parties?
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No, we are only talking about registered voters. Not sure how ALL Americans might vote.

I'd say registered republicans are solid conservatives that are divided into 3 camps. We have moderates, libertarians, and social conservatives.
 
Jarod said:
Different discussion points on the same candidate. I know you don't want to be reminded of how your "Party" has devolved into a xenophobic mass of non-conservatives, but its fun for me.
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Oh boy. You really live in a bubble thus don't understand these voters.
 
J Craft said:
No, we are only talking about registered voters. Not sure how ALL Americans might vote.

I'd say registered republicans are solid conservatives that are divided into 3 camps. We have moderates, libertarians, and social conservatives.
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Of the three, which are what you are calling Conservatives? Which group are supporting Trump? Are you considering Trump a Conservative?
 
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