Imagine that. All the evidence is showing COVID was the sniffles, not the Apocalypse

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Wait...the guy who couldn't comprehend what his own post meant in English earlier...now peddles this brain-dead fallacy: "They're just leaving those bodies in the street to make trump look bad!"...and when someone refers to this bullshit logic as the "a lot of bodies in one place proves COVID kills more than the ordinary flu" fallacy...he lashes out and accuses them of not being able to comprehend sarcasm (doesn't even make sense), and acts like they didn't realize he was talking about Ecuador (lay down the crack pipe), and smears THEM as stupid for HIM being completely unable to follow a straightforward plain-English conversation.
Someone forgot their meds. :rofl2:
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That was a pretty convoluted explanation for your inability to understand sarcasm about trump, dudette.

One of us is functioning with a less than 45 IQ here, and it ain't me. :rofl2:
 
Arminius said:


Taking your math at face value, that's still 13k deaths per month...WITH drastically (deliberately, admittedly) inflated death counts, WITH flu having a vaccine and COVID not having one, and WITH the number of coronavirus infections being 85 TIMES HIGHER than they originally thought.
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This was your post girlfriend, and I responded exactly to what you wrote. We all see you moved the goalposts because you're as subtle as a marching band. :rofl2:

Deaths in the U.S. from the ordinary flu in the last 6 months: 24k-62k
Deaths in the U.S. from COVID since January: 30,985
Not even as bad as the ordinary flu...and we were told the sky was falling.
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Arminius said:


Say the people currently trying to make excuses for why Kavanaugh got crucified on (ridiculously flimsy) accusation alone while Biden is being almost completely ignored. :laugh:
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Say the cretins who never believed a word from Christine Blasey Ford but are now all up in Biden's face over Reade's ridiculously flimsy accusation words.

Hypocrisy, thy name is Armpitius. :laugh:
 
Arminius said:


Unless you count the hundred or so times that I've linked to studies from Oxford, Stanford, and cited the CDC, Johns Hopkins, NIH, etc.
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A link to something that doesn't say what you claim it does only disproves your statement. You have linked to NOTHING that lists an actual count of flu deaths.
You don't get to just make up whatever you feel like, dishonest demagogue. :bs:
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Since I am not making up whatever I feel like, it doesn't apply to me. I take the time to do my research.


Sure it does. You're just illiterately failing to comprehend what you read while smearing others as stupid for operating on an adult reading level. :laugh:

Since raw data are clearly too much for your fragile low-IQ analytical powers to handle, Grassfire simplifies it nicely for you (we can break out the crayons if need be):

"The average for weeks 9 through 11 for the four prior years was a total of 170,555 deaths. For weeks 9 through 11 this year, the total is 153,015, meaning 17,540 fewer people died in America during the first three weeks of March than could be reasonably expected. And the gap between historic deaths and weekly deaths is widening. For week 11, just 47,655 Americans died, 8,773 and 15% fewer than the average for week 11 in the prior four years. And while data on week 12 is not complete, it is trending similar to week 11 and will likely be down by 15% (around 8,700 deaths less than expected) even though 1,919 COVID-19 deaths were reported (in week beginning 3/22)."​

Comprehend it yet? Or would you like to tantrum some more and call everyone else stupid for having better reading comprehension skills than you? :awesome:
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Wow. So some idiot posts something on a website making a claim and you believe it to be true without doing even the most basic research. That only makes you an idiot as well. The link in the page you posted doesn't support the claim. The link says nothing about total deaths. I have already posted a link to the actual page on the CDC website where it clearly states that the data is not accurate since it can take up to 8 weeks for final information to come in. The first comment on the page of your source makes the exact same point that I did. The data is not complete. I don't have reading comprehension skills.

Here is the link - (This would be considered actual data.)
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/COVID19/index.htm
Look for the "Data as of April 17" table. Do the simple math. It is now 159,541 total deaths for the first 3 weeks of March. That is because new data will continue to come in for up to 8 weeks. So, your source was wrong and you are too stupid to check actual facts. You fall for something someone told you because you simply want to believe it. Your source is clearly wrong. You might want to stop using them in the future.

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Yes, you should stop lying. Or at the minimum you should stop being a gullible idiot.



Hence me posting the range they provided. :nodyes:
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So, you think it is a valid comparison to compare an estimate with an actual count that isn't yet complete? Nope, doesn't work that way.


Right. Because people who aren't complete morons can compare the actual COVID deaths with the RANGE of flu deaths and still see that COVID isn't anywhere near as bad. It's at the bottom of the flu range...and that's WITH drastically (deliberately, admittedly) inflated death counts,
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And you still make this claim? ad infinitum fallacy at it's finest.
WITH flu having a vaccine and COVID not having one, and WITH the number of coronavirus infections being 85 TIMES HIGHER than they originally thought.
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Source for your 85 times higher infection rate? If the rate of infection in the US was 85 times higher it would mean 63 million people have the virus and we would have a death rate of of 0.06% Taiwan's testing would seem to refute that. 53,000 tests, 420 positive and 6 deaths - 1.5% death rate. Taiwan with it's testing is somehow missing 95% or more of the positive cases? Germany's testing 1.7 million tests, 144,000 cases, 4500 deaths -2.8% death rate. Somehow Germany in it's testing is missing over 98% of those infected? With the number of tests being conducted that is statistically nearly impossible. It might be more likely for you to win the Powerball 3 times in a row than for the testing to be that far off.

Let's deal with THESE idiotic assertions and lies of yours first before moving on to your other seventy "counterpoints."
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When you come back and admit that the deaths are not down by 10% for the first 3 weeks of March compared to last year, then we can have a decent start. Until then, your citing sources that are wrong doesn't help your case.

When in doubt, always check the source. When you check the source always read the notes. If the link in the story doesn't go to the actual numbers claimed then do your own research but don't assume the story is correct.
 
Arminius said:


And up to 62k died of the flu. Context debunks your anti-science scaremongering. Comprehend it yet? :awesome:
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The estimate is up to 62,000 died from flu in 6 months. (The CDC will finalize it's estimate in 6 months time and the number will be a lot less than 62,000.)
The estimate is up to 2 million could die from Covid 19 in 6 months.


Which number is higher? I'll help you out here - 2 million is not 85 times higher than 62,000.

If you are comparing estimates of death over a time period then compare them correctly. An estimate with a range of 24,000 to 62,000 doesn't mean that it is most likely that the actual number is 62,000. In fact the likelihood of it being 62,000 is less than 5%.
IHME is estimating the deaths over a 5 month period for Covid 19 could range from 34,063 to 140,381. That means if the use the 2 models and assume they are both similarly accurate if you use the 64,000 figure then you have to compare it to the 140,381 figure.
https://covid19.healthdata.org/united-states-of-america
 
And you do realize those are preliminary estimates, correct? It is now 2020. you can use the revised and final numbers that would have been released in November of 2018.
 
christiefan915 said:
That was a pretty convoluted explanation for your inability to understand sarcasm about trump, dudette.
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So just blind denial of what you did. We're at THAT level of petty avoidance and dishonesty. There is officially no reason to talk to you then.

:dunno:

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christiefan915 said:
One of us is functioning with a less than 45 IQ here, and it ain't me.
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Translation: If I just keep screaming "You're stupid" over everyone who points out my hilariously moronic inability to follow a basic conversation, that will get me out of this.

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christiefan915 said:
Say the cretins who never believed a word from Christine Blasey Ford but are now all up in Biden's face over Reade's ridiculously flimsy accusation words.
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Well yeah, that's how standards work. You get to crucify conservatives over nothing, we get to at least demand that your rapists and pedophiles be properly IDENTIFIED as what they are. Plus, Blasey invented her 'memories' from thoroughly debunked junk science and proved own bullshit wrong at every turn, but I digress.

Seems fair. :dunno:

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Hypocrisy, thy name is Armpitius. :laugh:
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Says the guy crucifying Kavanaugh for complete garbage accusations while defending a CREDIBLE accusation against Biden.

:lolup: :laugh: :rofl2:
 
Poor Richard Saunders said:
A link to something that doesn't say what you claim it does only disproves your statement.
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Which no one is doing, hence the irrelevancy of your point. :dunno:

Poor Richard Saunders said:
You have linked to NOTHING that lists an actual count of flu deaths.
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Unless you count the DOZENS of times I've linked to the CDC, Johns Hopkins, NIH, etc., across about five threads now. :laugh:

You don't just get to pretend away what is provable and on the record happening, moron. :palm:

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Let's deal with THESE falsehoods of yours before moving on to your other 70 "counterpoints."

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