Imagine that. All the evidence is showing COVID was the sniffles, not the Apocalypse

This is Legion.

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Is this proof 'life-saving' ventilators are actually deathtraps? Their success rate is appalling and medics are increasingly worried they may do more harm than good, disturbing report reveals


His face contorted with worry, a young casualty doctor sends a desperate message to the world. He has watched over the beds of hundreds of coronavirus patients, and now believes they are dying because of the very treatment that is meant to save them.

After being rushed into hospital, they are knocked out by sedatives delivered through a throat tube as a ventilator mechanically pumps their lungs to send oxygen into their bodies.

It is a standard treatment for the deadly lung infection pneumonia, and one that was first used for Covid-19 patients in China, then in Europe and now here in Britain.

Yet, in a frank YouTube video, the New York casualty doctor Cameron Kyle-Sidell has broken ranks with the medical establishment and warns it is wrong to use ventilators in this way.

He states emphatically: 'I fear this misguided treatment will lead to a tremendous amount of harm in a very short time. Covid-19 is not a pneumonia and should not be treated as one.'

His video, which has been viewed around the world, is heralding a re-think concerning the treatment of severe cases of Covid-19. In particular, experts are now asking whether the best way of saving patients might be to saturate their blood with oxygen delivered through a mask without using a ventilator.

This is the approach reportedly used during Boris Johnson's fight for life against the virus at London's St Thomas' Hospital intensive care unit. Before the pandemic took hold, Kyle-Sidell's theory might have been dismissed as maverick.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...e-saving-ventilators-actually-deathtraps.html

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This was part of the charade. Doctors reject ventilators early on because they realized they were killing people, and the media spent a full month smearing President Trump for the imaginary "shortage" of something doctors refused to use.

Democrats are such asinine lemmings. :palm:

 
34,386 dead. I wonder what the numbers would be if it weren't just Democrats obeying the science by social distancing, wearing masks
and respecting stay at home orders. I wonder how low they would be if Republicans did?

Deaths in the U.S. from the ordinary flu in the last 6 months: 24k-62k

Deaths in the U.S. from COVID since January: 30,985

Not even as bad as the ordinary flu...and we were told the sky was falling. WHO is just "obeying science" here? :rofl2:

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Speaking of which, experts say social distancing obstructs the establishment of herd immunity and pointlessly delays the nation's recovery from this. So you aren't even right about SOCIAL DISTANCING being "obeying science." And all the studies show COVID will inevitably eventually infect 100% of the population, so wearing masks and following martial law bullshit isn't "obeying science" either. More like obeying anti-science propaganda.

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Any other misinformation you'd like to humiliate and discredit yourself trying to pass off as "obeying science" or are you good for now? :awesome:
 
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Ever heard of the proverb the cure being worse than the disease? Hong Flu in 1968 killed anything between 1-4 million worldwide and over 100,000 in the US. That was Type A H3N2, just like two years ago, when 80,000 died in the US. I don't remember any lockdowns back then! Maybe they should have asked the Vietnamese to have a ceasefire during the Tet Offensive or asked the Russians to suspend the Space Race?

You're not supposed to notice gaping holes in the narrative like this. :nono:

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Another "brainiac" who doesn't understand sarcasm. :stup2:

The dead in Ecuador have nothing to do with trump, moron.

Wait...the guy who couldn't comprehend what his own post meant in English earlier...now peddles this brain-dead fallacy: "They're just leaving those bodies in the street to make trump look bad!"...and when someone refers to this bullshit logic as the "a lot of bodies in one place proves COVID kills more than the ordinary flu" fallacy...he lashes out and accuses them of not being able to comprehend sarcasm (doesn't even make sense), and acts like they didn't realize he was talking about Ecuador (lay down the crack pipe), and smears THEM as stupid for HIM being completely unable to follow a straightforward plain-English conversation.

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Someone forgot their meds. :rofl2:


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Here's your counterpoint. If we use the highest number, 62K, for ordinary flu deaths it would be 10,333/month. As of today, approximately 3 months, there are 37,889 Covid deaths which works out to 12,629 deaths/month.

Taking your math at face value, that's still 13k deaths per month...WITH drastically (deliberately, admittedly) inflated death counts, WITH flu having a vaccine and COVID not having one, and WITH the number of coronavirus infections being 85 TIMES HIGHER than they originally thought.

I asked for a COUNTERPOINT, not a Neanderthal fallacy. :palm:

Try again, genius. :laugh:
 
Oh they do, it's just a bunch of crazy my wants are actually Constitutional rights, maga lowlifes that are causing problems.

Democrats (the people trying to stack SCOTUS and overthrow the Electoral College) oppose virtually every single part of the Constitution:

-free speech
-free religious exercise
-freedom of assembly
-freedom of the press
-gun rights
-due process
-state sovereignty
-separation of powers

Democrats support everything that CANNOT be found mentioned or even IMPLIED ANYWHERE in the Constitution as rights:

-abortion
-homosexual marriage
-the right not to have to witness free speech or free religious exercise (ACTUAL rights)
-illegal immigration
-infanticide
-boys playing in girls' sports
-terrorists, felons, and illegal immigrants voting
-making taxpayers bail out irresponsible student loans
-racist preferential treatment for minorities at everyone else's expense
-sexist preferential treatment for women at everyone else's expense

You were saying? :awesome:
 
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Oh God!
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Never, ever use logic or math with a RW nut job. It doesn't work!

Well yeah...because what passes for "logic" among Democrats is actually just Neanderthal fallacies (the one you're talking about right now was corrected here) that any 5th grader could debunk.

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You and I both know that when the death totals go over the number of flu deaths they'll all claim they never said it wouldn't.

Say the people who told President Trump he was overreacting in the beginning and that he should be focused on the flu instead...before arbitrarily doing a total 180 the moment it became politically convenient.

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Lol, just wait for it. In a small way you can admire the creative lengths they go to in order to defend trump.

Say the people currently trying to make excuses for why Kavanaugh got crucified on (ridiculously flimsy) accusation alone while Biden is being almost completely ignored. :laugh:

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Fake numbers.

New York City's Health Department said Tuesday it is now reporting "probable" Covid-19 deaths
of individuals who have not been tested for the coronavirus but are presumed to be positive.
The 4,059 probable cases pushed the death toll in New York City to nearly 11,000 victims.

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Yeah you are that guy presenting zero facts and only rhetoric, conjecture, and old out-of-date and dead wrong from-the-start talking points.

Unless you count the hundred or so times that I've linked to studies from Oxford, Stanford, and cited the CDC, Johns Hopkins, NIH, etc.

You don't get to just make up whatever you feel like, dishonest demagogue. :bs:

OMFG. You really are that stupid. Your link says nothing about total US deaths for March.

Sure it does. You're just illiterately failing to comprehend what you read while smearing others as stupid for operating on an adult reading level. :laugh:

Since raw data are clearly too much for your fragile low-IQ analytical powers to handle, Grassfire simplifies it nicely for you (we can break out the crayons if need be):

"The average for weeks 9 through 11 for the four prior years was a total of 170,555 deaths. For weeks 9 through 11 this year, the total is 153,015, meaning 17,540 fewer people died in America during the first three weeks of March than could be reasonably expected. And the gap between historic deaths and weekly deaths is widening. For week 11, just 47,655 Americans died, 8,773 and 15% fewer than the average for week 11 in the prior four years. And while data on week 12 is not complete, it is trending similar to week 11 and will likely be down by 15% (around 8,700 deaths less than expected) even though 1,919 COVID-19 deaths were reported (in week beginning 3/22)."

Comprehend it yet? Or would you like to tantrum some more and call everyone else stupid for having better reading comprehension skills than you? :awesome:

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CDC does not provide actual numbers of flu deaths. (Neither does John Hopkins or NIH.) They provide estimates based on modeling.

Hence me posting the range they provided. :nodyes:

You are comparing estimates to an actual count.

Right. Because people who aren't complete morons can compare the actual COVID deaths with the RANGE of flu deaths and still see that COVID isn't anywhere near as bad. It's at the bottom of the flu range...and that's WITH drastically (deliberately, admittedly) inflated death counts, WITH flu having a vaccine and COVID not having one, and WITH the number of coronavirus infections being 85 TIMES HIGHER than they originally thought.

Let's deal with THESE idiotic assertions and lies of yours first before moving on to your other seventy "counterpoints."

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