Yes, Texas’s Blackouts Are The Result Of Unreliable ‘Green’ Energy

Sailor said:
Watch it Flash. One of your fellow lefties who supposedly worked on gas pipelines in Texas said that is impossible. Cannot happen. He knows all about everything.
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Thanks for the warning. That was the report from energy experts and ERCOT that runs the system. Moisture in the gas caused problems with pumps and diesel engines.

And I'm not a lefty.
 
Hawkeye10 said:
OK had problems because they could not get the gas, and because wind generation froze, not because their fossil fuel plants froze.
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The article you cited doesn't seem to mention whether or not Oklahoma's power plants are winterized.
 
Flash said:
Thanks for the warning. That was the report from energy experts and ERCOT that runs the system. Moisture in the gas caused problems with pumps and diesel engines.

And I'm not a lefty.
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Sorry about the lefty remark. Sincerely. And I tend to agree with the experts as you do.
 
Geeko Sportivo said:
Dude stop guessing and making up excuses.

Our Governor knows the real reasons why the Grid failed. He is the one, along with other State officials, are the ones in charge of making decisions to invest in winterizing the grid or not. He also knows that decisions were made to risk it, and not winterize elements to the grid to guarantee the service in temperatures that get down to 10% F. or below. Our state has not seen arctic temperatures below 0 degrees f. in about 130 years.

But the truth is our grid always fails in several areas where temperatures get down into the teens- and that happens every year with various different Cold Fronts that sweep down the center of our nation. It has just never failed in so many areas, and the state has never had a blizzard that affected every corner of the state.
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Here is a good, objective description of the Texas system:
[h=1]Deep in the heart of Texas’ collapsing power grid[/h]https://arstechnica.com/science/2021/02/even-power-disasters-are-bigger-in-texas-heres-why/
 
Legion said:
The article you cited doesn't seem to mention whether or not Oklahoma's power plants are winterized.
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THe fact that there is no mention of fossil fuel plants freezing is your clue that they were:

Why is this happening?
In Oklahoma, we are accustomed to extreme summer temperatures. To put this storm in context, keeping a house at 72 degrees when it is -5 degrees outside is equivalent to cooling a house to 72 degrees when it is 149 degrees outside.
The larger issue is that this storm is affecting the entire region, not just Oklahoma.
The extreme cold is affecting the physical operation of the power plants across the region, specifically the renewable power sources. Wind turbines are freezing .
Gas lines are freezing. Some distribution lines have cracked. Flow is slow. High demand is making it more difficult to obtain. The supply of gas is very tight due to equipment freeze-offs and has caused the price to skyrocket.
These types of emergency actions are designed to be executed very fast to prevent very large cascading blackouts. We may have very little warning to when, where, or how long they get implemented
The goal is to rotate through (i.e. rolling) so that no one area is overly impacted more than another area. The speed at which we roll through our system depends on how much of the SPP load (electricity) needs to be reduced.
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https://okcoop.org/winter-energy-emergency/

Also compared to Texas Oklahoma had to do very little electricity demand shedding, though they did massive natural gas demand shedding.
 
Hawkeye10 said:
THe fact that there is no mention of fossil fuel plants freezing is your clue that they were
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No, it isn't. Failing to cite relevant evidence when you purport to have an answer to a question is a clue, but it's not the kind of clue you thought it was.
 
Hawkeye10 said:
Do you have a link indicating that this is what happened?

My instincts tell me that coal plants generally dont run in the winter, and that operators had shut them down for the winter and were not interested in opening them up, perhaps dont have and cant get the staff back in winter.
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Well, that is what our Governor said in his press release today!

Our Coal-Fired generating power plants are mainly used for Backing up the Grid, but the Wind and Solar power plants have pretty much replaced them for this purpose and are being used for that now. The Problem is, the Solar Panels do get covered by snow, and the wind generators still have to be winterized as well, IF YOU WANT THEM TO WORK IN A SNOW BLIZZARD like they do around the world- ICELAND, GREENLAND, Canada, and ETC.
 
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