Will Cities Survive 2020?

Yea, that's what the company claims. There have been plenty of pros who have reviewed Musk's products and said he's overclaiming...


Top Gear has repeatedly panned Tesla on their range claims and Musk has been unable to prove them wrong in court.



https://www.thedrive.com/article/12...ving his ta ke on the events that transpired.


https://www.thecarexpert.co.uk/poor-electric-vehicle-ranges-exposed/


https://www.techdirt.com/articles/2...ain-suing-top-gear-mocking-teslas-range.shtml


https://www.cnet.com/roadshow/news/elon-musk-tesla-model-s-epa-400-mile-ev/

https://www.wheelsjoint.com/tesla-m...y-made-a-mistake-while-testing-model-s-range/

I'll take the whole raft of experts and pros in the automotive world who have actually tested Musk's products in the real world over his often inflated marketing claims aimed at bringing in more investors. I guess you want to drink Musk's Kool-Aid however...


very likely but so what, still a competent commuter car
 
very likely but so what, still a competent commuter car

Sure. Most are being sold to upper middle class people as their second car / daily driver and/or as virtue signaling. What amazes me, on a semi-related note, is that on the poor side of town how many people have something like a BMW or some other high end car they really can't afford but they're living in a total shithole apartment complex rife with drugs and crime.
 
Sure. Most are being sold to upper middle class people as their second car / daily driver and/or as virtue signaling. What amazes me, on a semi-related note, is that on the poor side of town how many people have something like a BMW or some other high end car they really can't afford but they're living in a total shithole apartment complex rife with drugs and crime.


you are being a moron.
 
Sure. Most are being sold to upper middle class people as their second car / daily driver and/or as virtue signaling. What amazes me, on a semi-related note, is that on the poor side of town how many people have something like a BMW or some other high end car they really can't afford but they're living in a total shithole apartment complex rife with drugs and crime.

I don't know the total ins and outs but car loans are considered really low risk and even after the 2008 crash they'll give a car loan to almost anybody for almost any amount I knew a repo guy in fort Lauderdale that was repoing literally 120 cars a month from people that really should not have gotten them in the first place
 
I don't know the total ins and outs but car loans are considered really low risk and even after the 2008 crash they'll give a car loan to almost anybody for almost any amount I knew a repo guy in fort Lauderdale that was repoing literally 120 cars a month from people that really should not have gotten them in the first place

When you separate the paper salesmen from the actual lender you will have high defaults. Opposite motivations.
 
Public transit is heavily used and efficient in many large dense pop cities.
The BART is filled, the one in DC is filled every day too. I used it all the time.
I used to work at 18th and M street and another job in Silver Spring MD Take car as far as
what is now Reagan, take the subway the rest. No traffic no stress.

I can understand not using that in AZ. Apples to oranges. Hell, that whole state
is way too fucking hot for me to even consider, thanks to global warming in large part.

110 degrees like 3/4th the damn year. That's how I define a shithole.
 
Public transit is heavily used and efficient in many large dense pop cities.

Not any more.

Crowding into a sealed train car or bus with a bunch of strangers hardly sounds appealing in the middle of a pandemic, particularly when everywhere you might want to go is closed.

Public transit ridership has plunged some 80 percent across major American cities, according to Moovit.

Individual transit agencies in New York City, San Francisco, and Washington, D.C., have reported declines of 90 percent or more.


https://www.marketplace.org/2020/12/29/transit-agencies-get-14-billion-in-relief-with-ridership-still-down/
 
Not any more.

Crowding into a sealed train car or bus with a bunch of strangers hardly sounds appealing in the middle of a pandemic, particularly when everywhere you might want to go is closed.

Public transit ridership has plunged some 80 percent across major American cities, according to Moovit.

Individual transit agencies in New York City, San Francisco, and Washington, D.C., have reported declines of 90 percent or more.


https://www.marketplace.org/2020/12/29/transit-agencies-get-14-billion-in-relief-with-ridership-still-down/

Sounds almost like their businesses and populations that are leaving.....
 
Sounds almost like their businesses and populations that are leaving.....

Indeed it does, Cap'n.

DEMOCRATS who say the blue urban shitholes aren't leaking taxpayers are in denial.

California has lost so many that they are assessing California taxes on former residents for 10 years after they leave. They can't replace that revenue any other way.

The only people who aren't thinking about abandoning the sinking ships of shit are the ones who can't afford to move.

The danger is that the refugees will stupidly vote for DEMOCRATS when they reach a safe haven and ruin their new home too.
 
Indeed it does, Cap'n.

DEMOCRATS who say the blue urban shitholes aren't leaking taxpayers are in denial.

California has lost so many that they are assessing California taxes on former residents for 10 years after they leave. They can't replace that revenue any other way.

The only people who aren't thinking about abandoning the sinking ships of shit are the ones who can't afford to move.

The danger is that the refugees will stupidly vote for DEMOCRATS when they reach a safe haven and ruin their new home too.

Excellent and accurate insight here Legion.
 
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