Why do liberals hate disabled people?

[ib1yysguy]

There goes dixie, arguing against irrefutable autopsy findings.

Hey dix, about the balloon - did you ever see a video of her NOT smiling? No.

 

[Cancel3]

Excuse me, but there is the matter of the video evidence, where Terri was following a balloon around the room with her eyes, with a smile on her face. Her parents said that she experienced joy and sadness, as well as many other common human emotions. She was not a vegetable. Had she been in a vegetative state, she would not have been conscious, and had that been the case, I might be inclined to agree with the decision to end her life, if I knew this was her wish.

This was a judicial travesty because Terri Schiavo had ZERO representation. Her "husband" was her executor, AND her executioner. Her parents were completely shut out of the "legal" process. They had reams of testimony from health care workers, administrators, and doctors, who could have contradicted the clinical assumptions presented by her "husband" but they were not allowed to present this in court.

Regardless of her clinical conditions, regardless of her "husband's" need to put her to death and walk away from it all, Terri deserved representation and a chance to live, if her parents, (who produced her) didn't want her to die.

Dixie, the autopsy findings were quite clear. Her upper brain was gone. There was no following balloons. The part of her brain that would empower voluntary movements was gone.

There were reflexes. There were autonomic functions. But that was it. Her brain could not have supported it.

 

[Timshel]

Excuse me, but there is the matter of the video evidence, where Terri was following a balloon around the room with her eyes, with a smile on her face. Her parents said that she experienced joy and sadness, as well as many other common human emotions. She was not a vegetable. Had she been in a vegetative state, she would not have been conscious, and had that been the case, I might be inclined to agree with the decision to end her life, if I knew this was her wish.

This was a judicial travesty because Terri Schiavo had ZERO representation. Her "husband" was her executor, AND her executioner. Her parents were completely shut out of the "legal" process. They had reams of testimony from health care workers, administrators, and doctors, who could have contradicted the clinical assumptions presented by her "husband" but they were not allowed to present this in court.

Regardless of her clinical conditions, regardless of her "husband's" need to put her to death and walk away from it all, Terri deserved representation and a chance to live, if her parents, (who produced her) didn't want her to die.

She was in a Permanent Vegetative State. Both under law and the medical definitions.

Her parents were not shutout of the legal process and there was testimony given from those who disagreed with her diagnosis. The court did not find the testimony convincing.

You are either talking out your ass or lying.

 

[Minister of Truth]

I don't think Thoreau, MLK or Ghandi were boomers.



Explain.



Passed? Which of the justices in the majority was a boomer? Maybe Roe was.



The sexual looseness led to a spread in STDs and did some damage to the family structure. While I certainly do not believe a puritanical view of sex is healthy, neither was the extremes of the boomers.



Do you mean schools, workplaces and neighborhoods? Most of the leadership on desegregation was from generations prior to boomers. Many boomers served in those struggles but to credit them for any successes is debatable. In many ways, we still have segregation in all parts of this nation.

I already gave you some credit on tech advancements. But come on, that is to be expected.

Many of the musicians you note were solidly in prior generations, but okay you made some decent music. You made some pretty shitty music too. And again, I don't think this earth shaking stuff. Nearly every generation has artists of merit.

Besides all this, who cares? What your generation did no more says anything about you as an individual than what your race says about you.

I agree completely. Note to Sol - many of my loved ones (parents, aunts, uncles, etc.) are Kaboomers. I come from a family of massive generation gaps and have only one close relative from Gen X. That said, I still think your generation sucked, and anyone from Gen X that has survived to the present day must have had some guardian angel.

Congrats

By the way, you are welcome. If you used pell grants or student loans you are following in the steps of baby boomers.

Naw, I have military benefits through the Air National Guard. Technically I have student loans, but I won't be paying for any of them (since I didn't qualify for full tuition coverage, its the next best thing, I guess...)

 

[FUCK THE POLICE]

I don't think Thoreau, MLK or Ghandi were boomers.



Explain.



Passed? Which of the justices in the majority was a boomer? Maybe Roe was.



The sexual looseness led to a spread in STDs and did some damage to the family structure. While I certainly do not believe a puritanical view of sex is healthy, neither was the extremes of the boomers.



Do you mean schools, workplaces and neighborhoods? Most of the leadership on desegregation was from generations prior to boomers. Many boomers served in those struggles but to credit them for any successes is debatable. In many ways, we still have segregation in all parts of this nation.

I already gave you some credit on tech advancements. But come on, that is to be expected.

Many of the musicians you note were solidly in prior generations, but okay you made some decent music. You made some pretty shitty music too. And again, I don't think this earth shaking stuff. Nearly every generation has artists of merit.

Besides all this, who cares? What your generation did no more says anything about you as an individual than what your race says about you.

The boomers had more popular musicians of merit than any other generation ever. No one even compares to the Beatles. And it's interesting that you are taking a rather fascist anti-individual viewpoint here on sexual morality.

 

[Minister of Truth]

The Beatles were not Kaboomers you idiot. Stringy alluded to that fact.

 

[Cancel3]

The Beatles were not Kaboomers you idiot. Stringy alluded to that fact.

They fell just outside the age of being boomers themselves, but they were the music of my generation. The musicians weren't kaboomers, but the Beatles certainly was.

 

[Timshel]

And it's interesting that you are taking a rather fascist anti-individual viewpoint here on sexual morality.

I am not taking a fascist view on sex. That's nonsense. I said the extremes to which the boomers went were not healthy. There is a lot of middle ground between sex is evil, except inside marriage for procreation, and completely permissive and open sex.

 

[Cancel3]

I am not taking a fascist view on sex. That's nonsense. I said the extremes to which the boomers went were not healthy. There is a lot of middle ground between sex is evil, except inside marriage for procreation, and completely permissive and open sex.

Not all of the boomers were having orgies at Woodstock.

 

[Timshel]

Not all of the boomers were having orgies at Woodstock.

Of course not. And not all prior generations were doing missionary only, inside of marriage for purposes of procreation.

 

[Cancel3]

But prior to the sexual revolution people didn't talk openly about sex. Women were not supposed to enjoy sex (or at least that was the popular thinking in the USA)

Prior to the sexual revolution sex was dirty and kept quiet throughout most of the country.

Women were liberated by the sexual revolution in some ways.

 

[Socrtease]

Excuse me, but there is the matter of the video evidence, where Terri was following a balloon around the room with her eyes, with a smile on her face. Her parents said that she experienced joy and sadness, as well as many other common human emotions. She was not a vegetable. Had she been in a vegetative state, she would not have been conscious, and had that been the case, I might be inclined to agree with the decision to end her life, if I knew this was her wish.

This was a judicial travesty because Terri Schiavo had ZERO representation. Her "husband" was her executor, AND her executioner. Her parents were completely shut out of the "legal" process. They had reams of testimony from health care workers, administrators, and doctors, who could have contradicted the clinical assumptions presented by her "husband" but they were not allowed to present this in court.

Regardless of her clinical conditions, regardless of her "husband's" need to put her to death and walk away from it all, Terri deserved representation and a chance to live, if her parents, (who produced her) didn't want her to die.

Look with half a brain turned to jelly, and a loss of 50% brain mass YOU might be able to vote for George W Bush but MOST people can't function. Schiavo did NOT follow a balloon. Her smile was autonomic. She was equal to an anacephaletic child. The brain stem kept her breathing and pumping blood but she was no longer there. The autopsy PROVES that and you cannot refute medical findings. But I am sure you will try.