Who’s Right and Wrong in the Middle East?

Milagro said:
Yeh well you don't have to be an expert to figure that out. I mean just look at most Muslim societies, what do they produce, what do they invent? Look at Saudi Arabia or the UAE, they are not much different to Ancient Rome in many ways. They are still feudal societies in the main, stuck in the 7th century never mind the 15th century.
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Explain that to the Islamaphobes on here. As I've pointed out the Islamic nations that are modern Republics do not have the scope of the problem with religious radicalization. It's the ones that are still feudal societies which do and there it is entrenched cultural conservatism which prevents them from modernizing.
 
Milagro said:
I believe that there is a war looming over the South China Sea, it is very reminiscent of what happened prior to WW2 and the Japanese.
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That's why compliance with the United Nations and international law is absolutely essential to the well-being of us all and that is why Israel must be contained and forced to comply. Only the US veto prevents it. No law = war. And nobody deserves to die for the ' cause ' of ' Israel's security '. RIP those who have died already.
 
moon2012 said:
That's why compliance with the United Nations and international law is absolutely essential to the well-being of us all and that is why Israel must be contained and forced to comply. Only the US veto prevents it. No law = war. And nobody deserves to die for the ' cause ' of ' Israel's security '. RIP those who have died already.
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So would you care to enlighten us all as to how exactly you are going to get approx 400,000 heavily armed settlers to leave? I'll understand if you just reply with your usual rhetoric and bluster.
 
Book Purist said:
What about the southern part of West Prussia that Poland took? People only seem to think that it's an outrage that Russia took a part. It's also inhabited almost exclusively by ethnic Russians.
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Everyone thought that, after the way the Germans had behaved, they were bloody lucky to be left alive at all.
 
moon2012 said:
The occupation of Tibet can't be opposed as being illegal. It's immoral. The occupation of Palestine is both immoral and illegal- and it most certainly can be reversed. It doesn't matter how many squats the neoZionists construct in occupied territory. They will eventually be pulled down or used by Palestinians. Those squatters who choose to remain in the Palestinian state have already been offered the option of Palestinian nationality.
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If you Paleshitstains could do something about it, you would have already done so. Running your damn mouth proves you can't. Better get to throwing more rocks.
 
Milagro said:
So would you care to enlighten us all as to how exactly you are going to get approx 400,000 heavily armed settlers to leave? I'll understand if you just reply with your usual rhetoric and bluster.
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If the Palestinians could do what moon says, wouldn't they have done it already? Apparently moon thinks running his, or if you go by the implication from a different thread her, mouth, is going to overcome those odds.

Expect the typical "occupation of the land is illegal" bullshit response.
 
anatta said:
did you ever see the Chinese compromise on territory, when they can ever eventually seize it? I believe they still won't recognize Formosa. (Taiwan)
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Technically we don't recognize Taiwan either. The status of Taiwan is extremely complicated, and it's already ethically Chinese anyway. I think there will one day be reunification there as well.
 
iolo said:
Everyone thought that, after the way the Germans had behaved, they were bloody lucky to be left alive at all.
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Yeah, people were silent about it because of that. Of course you can't really cheer Stalin and pretend it was just punishment here. He was just really fond of moving nationalities around, whether or not their nation-state invaded his country.
 
Milagro said:
So would you care to enlighten us all as to how exactly you are going to get approx 400,000 heavily armed settlers to leave? I'll understand if you just reply with your usual rhetoric and bluster.
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They will be instructed to leave by their government- which will no longer support nor supply them.
Israel will already be getting far more of Palestine than it is entitled to when it withdraws to the pre-1967 borders. Israel also needs to boost its Jewish population. 25% of Israelis are Muslim Palestinians. However, if demographics favor Palestinians under democracy then that's the way the bagel crumbles, old boy. Israel's other option is its current fascism- and we all know where that's going to lead.
 
Milagro said:
I believe that there is a war looming over the South China Sea, it is very reminiscent of what happened prior to WW2 and the Japanese.
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war is a BIG word,and who wants to go up against the Chinese? I think China will do the slow hegemonic suffocation of opposition,
and just kina ooze all over the S China Sea where it can - de facto annexation if you will.
 
moon2012 said:
They will be instructed to leave by their government- which will no longer support nor supply them.
Israel will already be getting far more of Palestine than it is entitled to when it withdraws to the pre-1967 borders. Israel also needs to boost its Jewish population. 25% of Israelis are Muslim Palestinians. However, if demographics favor Palestinians under democracy then that's the way the bagel crumbles, old boy. Israel's other option is its current fascism- and we all know where that's going to lead.
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Israel removed 8500 settlers from Gaza and that required 10,000 soldiers and police to do it!! So how many do you think they'd need to remove 400,000? It will never happen ever as any government that tried would end up out of office pretty damn quick. What is far more likely to happen is that the settlements nearest the Green Line namely Ma’ale Adumim, Modiin Ilit, Ariel, Gush Etzion and Givat Ze’ev will be brought inside Israel proper. Even Arafat conceded at Camp David way back in 1990 that the large settelement blocs would be part of Israel.
 
Milagro said:
Israel removed 8500 settlers from Gaza and that required 10,000 soldiers and police to do it!! So how many do you think they'd need to remove 400,000? It will never happen ever as any government that tried would end up out of office pretty damn quick. What is far more likely to happen is that the settlements nearest the Green Line namely Ma’ale Adumim, Modiin Ilit, Ariel, Gush Etzion and Givat Ze’ev will be brought inside Israel proper. Even Arafat conceded at Camp David way back in 1990 that the large settelement blocs would be part of Israel.
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Your dream of a ' Greater israel ' is dead. The squatters will withdraw in groups- with financial compensation ultimately provided by the US taxpayer.

Camp David was a proven farce. Don't even bother resurrecting any of the canards associated with it.
 
moon2012 said:
Your dream of a ' Greater israel ' is dead. The squatters will withdraw in groups- with financial compensation ultimately provided by the US taxpayer.

Camp David was a proven farce. Don't even bother resurrecting any of the canards associated with it.
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I give up with people like you, it is more than obvious that you are some kind of hacktivist based in Europe or the Middle East. You always start posting around 12am PDT/3am EDT and post throughout the night. Unless you are truly nocturnal, then there is something very weird going on here. I have told you many times that the Israelis will NEVER go back to the Green Line and move out of those settlements. You can rant and rave as much as you like but you will have to face facts sooner or later.
 
Those that choose to remain have been invited to become Palestinian citizens. Those that choose not to are gone.
 
Milagro said:
So who exactly is going to make them leave?
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Again- the Israeli government will cease to fund/support them and they'll be offered financial inducements c/o the American taxpayer. Now go fix your bayonet and scream ' Antisemites ' as you go over the top.
 
moon2012 said:
Again- the Israeli government will cease to fund/support them and they'll be offered financial inducements c/o the American taxpayer. Now go fix your bayonet and scream ' Antisemites ' as you go over the top.
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Are you tuning up your slingshot?
 
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