What radicalized you?

Cypress said:
You went to a very strange school, knew really weird people, or your memory has been selectively filtered to paint a caricature of liberal college students.

I received my bachelor's degree in 1989, and it is shocking that the thing you remember most from those historic years were the Sandinistas.

There might have been a few radicals interested in the Sandinistas, but I don't remember any in my college peer groups.

Very bizarre you would focus on some caricature of Nicaragua. The late 1980s were probably the most historic and electric years in my life in the realm of foreign affairs because we were seeing Communism come apart at the seams in Eastern Europe, we bore witness to Tianneman Square, we were seeing an electrifying global consensus gel against South African apartheid, and were were seeing Glasnost and what appeared to be the beginnings of democratic socialism in the USSR under a relatively enlightened Soviet leader.

Truly shocking that your mind thought the Sandinistas in a backwaters central American country were the most consequential issue in foreign affairs of that era.
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Because he made it all up...he never went to college, and now he's saying he did.

For months he insisted that college was pointless and he celebrated his mediocre success in spite of it.

TA is a fucking liar.
 
evince said:
See what happens when you lie all the time

People don’t believe anything you say

Now drink your imaginary tea
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you mean two of the biggest jackasses thet get ignored on these forums

I know - lets argue about meaningless shit - like if my wife does hair for a living or if I am on humira

god you people are pathetic. :laugh:
 
LV426 said:
Because he made it all up...he never went to college, and now he's saying he did.

For months he insisted that college was pointless and he celebrated his mediocre success in spite of it.

TA is a fucking liar.
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It's unusual that anyone who went to college, and worked hard to graduate would then dedicate themselves to consistently hollering that college is pointless.
 
Cypress said:
It's unusual that anyone who went to college, and worked hard to graduate would then dedicate themselves to consistently hollering that college is pointless.
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I'm like 99.9999999999999% sure TA said he never went to college and developed all his "skills" on his own, with no help from anyone.
 
LV426 said:
I'm like 99.9999999999999% sure TA said he never went to college and developed all his "skills" on his own, with no help from anyone.
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Some people take a few classes and then drop out of college.

Sounds like his interest was history. History is one of those things you don't major in unless you really love it. Hard to imagine being a history major and then getting on message boards to proclaim the study of history
and historical scholarship are pointless.
 
zymurgy said:
you mean two of the biggest jackasses thet get ignored on these forums

I know - lets argue about meaningless shit - like if my wife does hair for a living or if I am on humira

god you people are pathetic. :laugh:
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Sit on it and spin liar
 
cawacko said:
We all run in different circles, have different experiences etc. Is this a new thing, people getting together talking about how they were radicalized? We hear about how the internet has radicalized people by sending them down these crazy rabbit holes. But are what we would think just “regular” people living their lives now all of a sudden radicalized? Like a new fad or something?
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Many people are not radicalized; instead, they try to use rational thought based on creditable unbiased information. Radicalized people base their beliefs on emotions and interpret everything based on preconceived, rigid, ideological convictions. The result is the huge partisan split based on hatred of the other side.
 
Flash said:
Many people are not radicalized; instead, they try to use rational thought based on creditable unbiased information. Radicalized people base their beliefs on emotions and interpret everything based on preconceived, rigid, ideological convictions. The result is the huge partisan split based on hatred of the other side.
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You are just as ideological. Hilarious that you deceive yourself.
 
Cypress said:
Were the 60s really that radical? I mean outside of some university campuses and some music festivals like Woodstock.

I don't think most of the nation was radically different in 1968 than it was in 1958. Large swaths of the country remained conventional and conservative. I don't see how a radical country could have elected Tricky Dick Nixon in 2968.
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There were big changes. When I started college (1962) women did not wear pants and students and professors smoked in class. By 1965 women wore pants but no bras. We went from no campus radicals to SDS meetings and marches and teach-ins and Haight-Ashbury.
 
Cypress said:
Lot's of conservatives said they were "forced" to vote for the shockingly stupid Trump because Hillary made them feel bad by calling them Deplorables.

Republicans on this board have openly stated they voted for Trump primarily to make liberals cry.


^^ That is the logic of an eight year old. And only further highlights that the modern GOP is not a political philosophy built on genuine ideas and policy; it is built on resentment and grievance.
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ridiculous
I've seen a few poster write childish things on both sides but to say they voted for Trump because Hillary made them feel bad by calling them Deplorables is just 100%wrong.
 
Flash said:
There were big changes. When I started college (1962) women did not wear pants and students and professors smoked in class. By 1965 women wore pants but no bras. We went from no campus radicals to SDS meetings and marches and teach-ins and Haight-Ashbury.
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Those are changes in style and fashion. Undoubtedly, there was a counter culture at university towns, San Francisco, Greenwich Village. The 1920s also saw huge changes in fashion, hedonism, and sexuality.

But I am not convinced racism, homophobia, sexism, the workplace, the corporate world was substantially better in 1968 than in 1958, though there were new laws preventing blatant and open racism in education and voting.

I just think once you got outside the university towns, and into Wichita, Tulsa, Fort Worth, Fargo, etc were basically just as traditional in 1968 as a decade before. Maybe I am wrong.
 
Flash said:
There were big changes. When I started college (1962) women did not wear pants and students and professors smoked in class. By 1965 women wore pants but no bras. We went from no campus radicals to SDS meetings and marches and teach-ins and Haight-Ashbury.
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no idea you were this old -you were born during WWII?
 
Cypress said:
Those are changes in style and fashion. Undoubtedly, there was a counter culture at universities, San Francisco, Greenwich Village.

But I am not convinced racism, homophobia, sexism was substantially better in 1968 as in 1958, though there were new laws preventing blatant and open racism in education and voting.

I just think once you got outside the university towns, Wichita, Tulsa, Fort Worth, Fargo, etc were basically just as traditional in 1968 as a decade before.
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small towns were generally behind the big cities in therms of social change - but the "youth movement"
( as it's said) was generational across demographics- and that movement went against the old "isms"
 
Flash said:
Many people are not radicalized; instead, they try to use rational thought based on creditable unbiased information. Radicalized people base their beliefs on emotions and interpret everything based on preconceived, rigid, ideological convictions. The result is the huge partisan split based on hatred of the other side.
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My initial thought was those who are radicalized are so far out of the mainstream that they are beyond the regular R vs D arguments.

However you bring up a good point and what popped into my mind was those who think not only are your ideas wrong but I want you dead as well.
 
Cypress said:
Those are changes in style and fashion. Undoubtedly, there was a counter culture at university towns, San Francisco, Greenwich Village. The 1920s also saw huge changes in fashion, hedonism, and sexuality.

But I am not convinced racism, homophobia, sexism, the workplace, the corporate world was substantially better in 1968 than in 1958, though there were new laws preventing blatant and open racism in education and voting.

I just think once you got outside the university towns, and into Wichita, Tulsa, Fort Worth, Fargo, etc were basically just as traditional in 1968 as a decade before. Maybe I am wrong.
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The civil rights movement of the 1960s brought about a lot of changes in attitude and behavior--integration of schools and public accommodations. Marches against the Vietnam War were massive. Violent groups that set off bombs originated in this period.
 
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