What radicalized you?

this is just more proof you are a bigot

because I hate progressive policy, I must be lying about having an auto immune disease

you are a fucking bigot dude. the biggest shit stain here.



You lie turd sandwich



You have no integrity



The things you say are meaningless to decent people



Take the fuck that
 
you are shit tard and I know it

humira is an mRna - I have trusted this tech long before you were shitting in these forums

See what happens when you lie all the time

People don’t believe anything you say

Now drink your imaginary tea
 
Guys at home with their iPads, retired mainly, living on their retirement plans, telling us how they were radicalized.
 
Guys at home with their iPads, retired mainly, living on their retirement plans, telling us how they were radicalized.

LOL, there’s a definite level of humor to that huh? I guess one can argue people have different meanings of what being personally radicalized entails, but it’s like starting a thread “when did you become a killer?” or “when did you become a gangsta?”

Those that are generally don’t advertise it
 
Based on the subject heading I was viewing this from the perspective of each of us as an individual. I wouldn’t be surprised if we’ve had a couple of radicalized folks who have posted on this board over the years. But generally speaking I don’t necessarily equate someone having a couple of radical ideas with actually being radicalized.

But I’ve been reading this whole thread and have now learned that you’re “radicalized.” Crazy, huh? ;)
 
Why isn’t it?

Anecdotal but I saw videos of people on the street during the George Floyd protests saying America is a failed country and it needs to be torn down and rebuilt. TBH, I don’t know how many people share that view.

But people can vote with their feet and more people come to this country than leave so I think that tells us quite a bit (unless the argument is even though America is a failed country most everywhere else is even worse.)
 
Anecdotal but I saw videos of people on the street during the George Floyd protests saying America is a failed country and it needs to be torn down and rebuilt. TBH, I don’t know how many people share that view.

But people can vote with their feet and more people come to this country than leave so I think that tells us quite a bit (unless the argument is even though America is a failed country most everywhere else is even worse.)

I don't see many Danes and Swedes and Norwegians banging in the door to come to America.
Not much of an invasion from the Australians and New Zealanders.
Even the French and Italians and Germans spend a fun week or two in Las Vegas and then happily head home.
Same with the Japanese.

They have a hard enough time keeping us out of their cribs. THEY have the tough immigration laws, at least as it pertains to us.
The ones who want to come here are from even worse shitholes than the US.
That's pretty fucking obvious, isn't it?
 
I don't see many Danes and Swedes and Norwegians banging in the door to come to America.
Not much of an invasion from the Australians and New Zealanders.
Even the French and Italians and Germans spend a fun week or two in Las Vegas and then happily head home.
Same with the Japanese.

They have a hard enough time keeping us out of their cribs. THEY have the tough immigration laws, at least as it pertains to us.
The ones who want to come here are from even worse shitholes than the US.
That's pretty fucking obvious, isn't it?

Fvxk ‘em. Too many white people in America already. Let them stay in slow growth Europe.

50% of Silicon Valley start ups have at least one foreign born immigrant. Something like 40% of new businesses in the U.S. are started by foreigners. Coming from a “shit hole” country is in a way like coming from the ‘hood. Doesn’t mean you can’t rise above it and do great things.

And contrary to those who think America needs to be torn down it’s still the land of dreams and opportunity which is why we draw so many people here
 
You bring a psychologist here to explain it.

I am pointing to data. There are literally thousands of posts from Right wingers on this forum crying about being called teabaggers and deplorables, complaining that liberal chicks won't date them, festering with resentment about university education, wailing about the supposed liberal superiority complex.

You bring a psychologist here to explain it.

Don't need a shrink. This is some random dude's biased twitter theory. He basically says it in his first sentence: "Have been chatting with some friends for the piece this week, and one viable explanation I’ve heard—consistent with my own preexisting ideas—is that it’s experiential: on campus, online and in the streets, young conservatives are just encountering a much more hard-edged left" And it's not like he's researching some new alien lifeform in the Arctic, conservatives are everywhere, and growing in number. Just ask us questions.

I am pointing to data.

Please point some of it in my direction.

There are literally thousands of posts from Right wingers on this forum crying about being called teabaggers and deplorables

I have a pretty thick skin, and being one of the hildebeast's deplorables is kind of a badge of honor. In the name calling department, I think we give as good as we get. What I don't like is spending time trying to formulate a decent response to a post and getting "fuck off, troll" as a reply. That is not debate.

complaining that liberal chicks won't date them

Please quote just one of those "literally thousands of posts from Rightwingers on this forum" complaining that liberal chicks won't date them. Preferably from a poster who's currently active so they can reply. Personally, I haven't been attracted to a "liberal chick" in 45 years.

festering with resentment about university education

Got no problem with higher education. Just make it practical, don't brag about it, and never believe its the end-all-and-be-all.

wailing about the supposed liberal superiority complex

Really? I think you guys have an Inferiority complex.
 
I remember when I went to college back in the late 80's, having to deal with Leftists.

The hot topics were the Sandinistas in Nicaragua and the telescopes on Mt. Graham (an Arizona issue). At least, those are the two I remember best.

On the Sandinistas, I helped the professor in the history department (this was at the University of Arizona in Tucson), Gregory Oswald--who was likely the only professor in the department that was conservative--prep the Young Republican club (or whatever it was) for a debate against Leftists supporting the Sandinista movement.

An aside. There was another professor named Carter who was a card carrying Communist. He had a great interest in the Russian revolution and US involvement. I gave him a number of my dad's American Legion magazines with articles by US veterans who were involved in that. He was absolutely floored. He couldn't believe that a Right-wing magazine would publish articles by veterans that took part in defending US interests in the Russian revolution. It was hilarious from my POV because he was so closed-minded.

Now, my view was purely one of fucking the Leftists and enjoying the chaos that'd cause. I found the Young Republicans cringe worthy. They wanted to go with the usual Creeping tide of Communism bullshit as their argument. I convinced them otherwise.
My position was to make the Sandinistas out to be violent, expansionist, militaristic fascists instead. This was regardless of their proclaimed politics. I told the YR's to show pictures of military parades held in Managua that included more tanks than the entirety of Central America and Mexico possessed. Or photos of chemical warfare decontamination trucks the Soviets had supplied and were in those parades. Or, how the Sandinistas had massed artillery when Samosa, the previous dictator barely had a battery of 6 105mm WW 2 guns bought from the US.
The Leftists were devastated. It wasn't the argument they expected. The Leftists in the auditorium watching got hostile and violent and a minor riot ensued with the police having to arrest and remove many of them.
It was absolutely freaking hilarious!

Note once more: The YR made my skin crawl but I was being "hired" by the prof as what amounted to a consultant and you don't turn down work just because the customer is a freak.

I'll also say that I took one class (an elective to get GI Bill money) with several of the Leftists in that debate, and they knew who I was, and we simply agreed to disagree and left each other alone.

Another from that time was the Mt Graham telescope issue.

https://link.springer.com/chapter/10.1007/978-94-010-0049-9_6
https://www.slashgear.com/844688/wh...impacts on the national park and its wildlife.

Some links for background if you're interested.

The radical Left didn't want telescopes on Mt Graham for whatever reason. They tried a number of polys to stop the construction.

The first was an endangered species, the Mt. Graham red squirrel. The squirrels did better with the mountain closed to camping and human activity outside of the telescopes...

I remember one of the groups opposed to the telescopes having a table set up outside the student union. It had a poster of four pictures, one of mountains, one of mountains with telescopes, one of mountains and wildlife, and one of squirrels. The caption read "Which of these doesn't go with the others?"
I walked up to the table where several of the Leftists were engaged with other students, etc., and loudly proclaimed while pointing at the poster, "The squirrels!"
One of the Leftists caught my saying that and, with an angry shocked look asked me what I'd said.
I repeated, "The squirrels! The other three pictures are mountain scenes and there are squirrels! The squirrels don't go with the other pictures!" I walked off without waiting for an answer.
Coming back that way about an hour later, the poster was gone... SCORE!

The Leftists then got a question on the student election ballot about Mt. Graham. It was something about the student body was opposed to the telescopes and demanded the university get out of the program and denounce it. The Left proclaimed they'd let democracy decide and would abide by the results of the vote.
Biggest turnout for a student election in like forever. The student body voted down their proclamation by like 2 to 1. It was an overwhelming defeat for the Left.
The next day in the Daily Wildcat, the university paper, on the front page was a manifesto from the Leftist groups that in essence said, The student body are a bunch of idiots and we won't stop until the telescopes are stopped!
That was my introduction to how the Left operates. They did the EXACT same thing with gay marriage. The EXACT same thing.

The Left are nothing but Fascists, Communists, Totalitarians, and Despots. They should be opposed at every turn without exception.
 
WHAT RADICALIZED ME?

It's been a long road, but it happened over a period of time and events.

I voted for Nixon!

I voted for him for one huge reason- He said he would end the Vietnam War.

He did- But then got caught with his hand in the Watergate Coverup jar.

AND THEN FORD PARDONED HIM, AND I WENT RADICAL BECAUSE NIXON SHOULD HAVE BEEN INDICTED AND PROSECUTED AND SENT TO PRISON!

And then came the retaliatory Republicans that Blamed Carter for all of the world's problems, including- HEMORRHOIDS! I became more outraged and radicalized.

And then, the Reagan campaign worked around the White House and negotiated the release of the Iranian Hostages, pending his election, AND I HAD A HUGE PROBLEM WITH THAT AND BECAME EVEN MORE RADICALIZED.

The presidency of Ronald Reagan in the United States was marked by numerous scandals, resulting in the investigation, indictment, or conviction of over 138 administration officials, the largest number for any president in American history.

And then the REAGAN Iranian/Contra affair happened, and I became even more radicalized.

And then Bush Sr. pardoned all of Reagan's criminals that were prosecuted for their Iran/Contra involvements and all of the people who were prosecuted during the Reagan Administration for all the other crimes and scandalous affairs during his reign, and I became even more radicalized.

And then the Supreme Court appointed George Bush to be our president in 2000, while stopping the vote counting and verification of all the Votes in Florida- EVEN THOUGH GORE WON THE POPULAR VOTE HANDS DOWN- AND I BECAME EVEN MORE RADICALIZED.

In 2004 the Swift Boat attacks on John Kerry radicalized me even more.

Bush and Cheney's Iraq war further radicalized me, because the war was based on an outright lie!

Then all of the Hatefulness of the Republicans expressed towards Obama and Michelle and their two daughters during the Obama Administration further Radicalized me.

And then Mitch McConnell refused to allow Obama to be able to appoint a SCOTUS in his last year of office FURTHER RADICALIZED ME.

THEN THE BENGHAZI HEARINGS TURNED OUT TO BE AN IDEA TO INTENTIONALLY RUIN HILLARY CLINTON'S CHANCES AT RUNNING FOR PRESIDENT- NOT MY WORDS- BUT KEVIN McCARTHY's! And that further radicalized me.

THEN THE LOW-LIFE REPUBLICANS NOMINATED DONALD TRUMP- THE WORST MAN IN THE USA- TO BE THEIR PRESIDENT- AND I WENT FULLY RADICALIZED AND FOR VERY OBVIOUS REASONS. EVEN THOUGH HILLARY WON THE POPULAR VOTE BY 3 MILLION VOTERS- AND THAT FURTHER RADICALIZED ME.

I knew DOnald Trump would be a CROOKED AND CRIMINAL PRESIDENT!

HE WAS- AND IS THE MOST CROOKED PRESIDENT WE EVER HAD- AND THE LOW-LIFE REPUBLICANS STILL WANT HIM TO LEAD THEIR RACIST AND CRIMINAL PARTY AND WILL BE TRYING TO GET DONALD TRUMP ELECTED FOR A 2nd TIME.

YOU WANT RADICAL DEMOCRATS? YOU GOT IT REPUBLICANS!

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I am totally convinced that the Republican Party is all about Racism, Corruption, Dirty Lies, Dirty Tricks, Dirty Secrets, Cheap Shots below the belt, and winning at all costs.

I say there will be a price to pay for all of their convoluted wickedness!

Lizards Lives Matters- AND DON'T YOU FORGET IT!
 
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I remember when I went to college back in the late 80's, having to deal with Leftists.

The hot topics were the Sandinistas in Nicaragua and the telescopes on Mt. Graham (an Arizona issue). At least, those are the two I remember best.

On the Sandinistas, I helped the professor in the history department (this was at the University of Arizona in Tucson), Gregory Oswald--who was likely the only professor in the department that was conservative--prep the Young Republican club (or whatever it was) for a debate against Leftists supporting the Sandinista movement.

An aside. There was another professor named Carter who was a card carrying Communist. He had a great interest in the Russian revolution and US involvement. I gave him a number of my dad's American Legion magazines with articles by US veterans who were involved in that. He was absolutely floored. He couldn't believe that a Right-wing magazine would publish articles by veterans that took part in defending US interests in the Russian revolution. It was hilarious from my POV because he was so closed-minded.

Now, my view was purely one of fucking the Leftists and enjoying the chaos that'd cause. I found the Young Republicans cringe worthy. They wanted to go with the usual Creeping tide of Communism bullshit as their argument. I convinced them otherwise.
My position was to make the Sandinistas out to be violent, expansionist, militaristic fascists instead. This was regardless of their proclaimed politics. I told the YR's to show pictures of military parades held in Managua that included more tanks than the entirety of Central America and Mexico possessed. Or photos of chemical warfare decontamination trucks the Soviets had supplied and were in those parades. Or, how the Sandinistas had massed artillery when Samosa, the previous dictator barely had a battery of 6 105mm WW 2 guns bought from the US.
The Leftists were devastated. It wasn't the argument they expected. The Leftists in the auditorium watching got hostile and violent and a minor riot ensued with the police having to arrest and remove many of them.
It was absolutely freaking hilarious!

Note once more: The YR made my skin crawl but I was being "hired" by the prof as what amounted to a consultant and you don't turn down work just because the customer is a freak.

I'll also say that I took one class (an elective to get GI Bill money) with several of the Leftists in that debate, and they knew who I was, and we simply agreed to disagree and left each other alone.

Another from that time was the Mt Graham telescope issue.

https://link.springer.com/chapter/10.1007/978-94-010-0049-9_6
https://www.slashgear.com/844688/wh...impacts on the national park and its wildlife.

Some links for background if you're interested.

The radical Left didn't want telescopes on Mt Graham for whatever reason. They tried a number of polys to stop the construction.

The first was an endangered species, the Mt. Graham red squirrel. The squirrels did better with the mountain closed to camping and human activity outside of the telescopes...

I remember one of the groups opposed to the telescopes having a table set up outside the student union. It had a poster of four pictures, one of mountains, one of mountains with telescopes, one of mountains and wildlife, and one of squirrels. The caption read "Which of these doesn't go with the others?"
I walked up to the table where several of the Leftists were engaged with other students, etc., and loudly proclaimed while pointing at the poster, "The squirrels!"
One of the Leftists caught my saying that and, with an angry shocked look asked me what I'd said.
I repeated, "The squirrels! The other three pictures are mountain scenes and there are squirrels! The squirrels don't go with the other pictures!" I walked off without waiting for an answer.
Coming back that way about an hour later, the poster was gone... SCORE!

The Leftists then got a question on the student election ballot about Mt. Graham. It was something about the student body was opposed to the telescopes and demanded the university get out of the program and denounce it. The Left proclaimed they'd let democracy decide and would abide by the results of the vote.
Biggest turnout for a student election in like forever. The student body voted down their proclamation by like 2 to 1. It was an overwhelming defeat for the Left.
The next day in the Daily Wildcat, the university paper, on the front page was a manifesto from the Leftist groups that in essence said, The student body are a bunch of idiots and we won't stop until the telescopes are stopped!
That was my introduction to how the Left operates. They did the EXACT same thing with gay marriage. The EXACT same thing.

The Left are nothing but Fascists, Communists, Totalitarians, and Despots. They should be opposed at every turn without exception.

If that post is a fair indication the Right are nothing more than self important blowhards.
 
I remember when I went to college back in the late 80's, having to deal with Leftists.

The hot topics were the Sandinistas in Nicaragua and the telescopes on Mt. Graham (an Arizona issue). At least, those are the two I remember best.

You went to a very strange school, knew really weird people, or your memory has been selectively filtered to paint a caricature of liberal college students.

I received my bachelor's degree in 1989, and it is shocking that the thing you remember most from those historic years were the Sandinistas.

There might have been a few radicals interested in the Sandinistas, but I don't remember any in my college peer groups.

Very bizarre you would focus on some caricature of Nicaragua. The late 1980s were probably the most historic and electric years in my life in the realm of foreign affairs because we were seeing Communism come apart at the seams in Eastern Europe, we bore witness to Tianneman Square, we were seeing an electrifying global consensus gel against South African apartheid, and were were seeing Glasnost and what appeared to be the beginnings of democratic socialism in the USSR under a relatively enlightened Soviet leader.

Truly shocking that your mind thought the Sandinistas in a backwaters central American country were the most consequential issue in foreign affairs of that era.
 
Don't need a shrink. This is some random dude's biased twitter theory. He basically says it in his first sentence: "Have been chatting with some friends for the piece this week, and one viable explanation I’ve heard—consistent with my own preexisting ideas—is that it’s experiential: on campus, online and in the streets, young conservatives are just encountering a much more hard-edged left" And it's not like he's researching some new alien lifeform in the Arctic, conservatives are everywhere, and growing in number. Just ask us questions.



Please point some of it in my direction.



I have a pretty thick skin, and being one of the hildebeast's deplorables is kind of a badge of honor. In the name calling department, I think we give as good as we get. What I don't like is spending time trying to formulate a decent response to a post and getting "fuck off, troll" as a reply. That is not debate.



Please quote just one of those "literally thousands of posts from Rightwingers on this forum" complaining that liberal chicks won't date them. Preferably from a poster who's currently active so they can reply. Personally, I haven't been attracted to a "liberal chick" in 45 years.



Got no problem with higher education. Just make it practical, don't brag about it, and never believe its the end-all-and-be-all.



Really? I think you guys have an Inferiority complex.

Lot's of conservatives said they were "forced" to vote for the shockingly stupid Trump because Hillary made them feel bad by calling them Deplorables.

Republicans on this board have openly stated they voted for Trump primarily to make liberals cry.


^^ That is the logic of an eight year old. And only further highlights that the modern GOP is not a political philosophy built on genuine ideas and policy; it is built on resentment and grievance.
 
Lot's of conservatives said they were "forced" to vote for the shockingly stupid Trump because Hillary made them feel bad by calling them Deplorables.

Republicans on this board have openly stated they voted for Trump primarily to make liberals cry.


^^ That is the logic of an eight year old. And only further highlights that the modern GOP is not a political philosophy built on genuine ideas and policy; it is built on resentment and grievance.
Trumpublicans absolutely are the party resentment and grievance.
 
Our arm chair radicals remind me of a true radical close to my own life. In the 1960's he became part of the movement opposed to the war in Vietnam. His personal opposition was deep. He joined protest marches and sit ins, got fire hosed, wrote letters and helped organize demonstrations. He managed nevertheless to complete his engineering studies at the University of Michigan and was newly employed at United Aircraft when his draft notice came, his deferment having expired. Instead of uprooting his life to Canada, he mailed it back with a note that "I conscientiously object to the nation's waging an immoral war in South Vietnam." This was insufficient of course for the "nation" but it was enough for the guy who would become my father. He knew the consequence he faced. He spent seven and half months in prison, lost his job but not his fiance and not his courage.
 
Our arm chair radicals remind me of a true radical close to my own life. In the 1960's he became part of the movement opposed to the war in Vietnam. His personal opposition was deep. He joined protest marches and sit ins, got fire housed, wrote letters and helped organize demonstrations. He managed nevertheless to complete his engineering studies at the University of Michigan and was newly employed at United Aircraft when his draft notice came, his deferment having expired. Instead of uprooting his life to Canada, he mailed it back with a note that "I conscientiously object to the nation's waging an immoral war in South Vietnam." This was insufficient of course for the "nation" but it was enough for the guy who would become my father. He knew the consequence he faced. He spent seven and half months in prison, lost his job but not his fiance and not his courage.
Bravo!
 
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