Well Trump finally got Schiff censored

[ExpressLane]

LOL. I was going to ask you the same thing about you (without using the r word though). I simply use the same words Schiff used, you seem to defend him by saying it says "conspire"... Neither of which it says Trump or his Campaign did.. though it does say that the Russians themselves interfered, but that is, as I've repeatedly noted, to be expected as they always have for time immemorial.

Yes and it was 200K of Facebook adds and Hillary spent over a Billion dollars so it was a drop in the bucket. Hillary lost because she did not campaign in Wisconsin like Bill told her to do.

 

[Damocles]

Indeed. Millions of Americas wee absolutely positive Trump colluded because Schiffhole had seen it.

Many, like BrandonpResident here on good ole jpp, still believe it regardless of facts. Liberals get to make up their own "reality" (I call it TransTruthful) while we are stuck with normal old boring truth that has to actually have evidence before we get to believe it.

 

[ExpressLane]

There has been new investigation since Mueller, Durham, and he testified there was. Your article was from 2019.

The Senate investigation was also after Musller. You need updated info.

Please give a link.

 

[Phantasmal]

Many, like BrandonpResident here on good ole jpp, still believe it regardless of facts. Liberals get to make up their own "reality" (I call it TransTruthful) while we are stuck with normal old boring truth that has to actually have evidence before we get to believe it.

That’s not us, you’re ignoring recent investigations.

 

[Damocles]

Yes and it was 200K of Facebook adds and Hillary spent over a Billion dollars so it was a drop in the bucket. Hillary lost because she did not campaign in Wisconsin like Bill told her to do.

The only folks that saw the ads were folks that were not even going to vote for her anyway, they targeted conservatives and they came up in their feeds... They had about as much effect as the old editorials, and were just about as obvious.

 

[LurchAddams]

”In rowdy scene, House censures Rep. Adam Schiff over Trump-Russia investigations”
https://apnews.com/article/schiff-c...russia-trump-318300df0f7b4f51c5b0ba5dd91edd23

At one time it meant something, but in today’s Congress, it has next to little significance, other than to feed the base, provide gotcha moments for the MAGA militia on Fox and alike

If anyone watched or listened to any of yesterday’s Durham testimony it is pretty obvious why the Freedom idiots hate Schiff, he outJordaned Jordan on Jordan’s own Committee

The entire Republican congress is just a revenge-maddened clown show. They can't govern, they're all about settling scores. Fucking trumptard nazi fucks.

 

[ExpressLane]

Many, like BrandonpResident here on good ole jpp, still believe it regardless of facts. Liberals get to make up their own "reality" (I call it TransTruthful) while we are stuck with normal old boring truth that has to actually have evidence before we get to believe it.

 

[archives]

LOL. I was going to ask you the same thing about you (without using the r word though). I simply use the same words Schiff used, you seem to defend him by saying it says "conspire"... Neither of which it says Trump or his Campaign did.. though it does say that the Russians themselves interfered, but that is, as I've repeatedly noted, to be expected as they always have for time immemorial.

The Russians interfered, as you imply, as they have always done, but never before was there documented proof of a direct connection between the Russians and a candidate’s political campaign. Mueller alone documented over one hundred contacts between the Russians and the Trump campaign, if you read the report, which I guarantee few if any Trump supporters have, one would have to think the Russians were doing everything but parking cars

 

[zymurgy]

The Russians interfered, as you imply, as they have always done, but never before was there documented proof of a direct connection between the Russians and a candidate’s political campaign. Mueller alone documented over one hundred contacts between the Russians and the Trump campaign, if you read the report, which I guarantee few if any Trump supporters have, one would have to think the Russians were doing everything but parking cars

the investigation did not establish that the Trump Campaign coordinated with the Russian government in its election interference activities.

for years Schiff lied about that one

 

[archives]

The only folks that saw the ads were folks that were not even going to vote for her anyway, they targeted conservatives and they came up in their feeds... They had about as much effect as the old editorials, and were just about as obvious.

More than just ads, but algorithms, specially targeted at voters in swing States, Manaford didn’t secretly meet with Russians to exchange polling data for nothing

 

[martin]

And you continue to not read the transcript and therefore miss the point of this conversation.

https://www.npr.org/2019/03/24/706385781/mueller-report-finds-evidence-of-russian-collusion

WWe're breaking down the results of the special counsel's investigation into Russian interference in the 2016 election. As we've been discussing this hour, the special counsel did not find that President Trump or his campaign colluded with the Russian government - that according to a summary of the conclusions delivered by the - Attorney General William Barr to the Congress.

This part here: But one of the key questions of Robert Mueller's investigation was into the nature of Russian interference in the 2016 election.

Now you are reading the portion of the report that is about whether the Russians "conspired" (not with Trump, we've already established that the Trump campaign did not collude or conspire with Russia, the report indicates that there was no evidence of that) to "interfere" with the election (as they have with every election since about the 1930s) through "editorials" etc.

Hint: They did. Just like they have in the past.

This was not about Trump at that point.

Sometimes it helps to quote the source instead of quoting someone else's idea of what the source said. Below is what Mueller said in his report and on national television. It's not that difficult to follow:

“We did not address collusion, which is not a legal term. Rather, we focused on whether the evidence was sufficient to charge any member of the campaign with taking part in a criminal conspiracy.”

p.s. Mueller also said this to the House Judiciary Committee:

“The president was not exculpated for the acts that he allegedly committed.” He added that Trump could theoretically be indicted after he leaves office.

https://www.politico.eu/article/mueller-refutes-trumps-no-collusion-no-obstruction-line/

 

[Damocles]

Sometimes it helps to quote the source instead of quoting someone else's idea of what the source said. Below is what Mueller said in his report and on national television. It's not that difficult to follow:

“We did not address collusion, which is not a legal term. Rather, we focused on whether the evidence was sufficient to charge any member of the campaign with taking part in a criminal conspiracy.”

Which they found that they had not.... *sigh* folks need to stop getting caught up in the word that Schiff used to mislead folks. The reality is, the report even indicates that even though they had ample opportunity and offers they still did not work with the Russians or otherwise conspire with them. It simply does not reflect what Schiff pretended he had seen evidence of in order for Schiff to interfere in the election. The evidence did not exist, it was entirely fictional, it was a lie, it wasn't even "transtruthful", it was cis-fictional.

 

[archives]

the investigation did not establish that the Trump Campaign coordinated with the Russian government in its election interference activities.

for years Schiff lied about that one

Here we go again with the semantics, proving planned coordination, no, he would have had to turn a top official in the Trump campaign to prove that, and Mueller was way to incompetent, reason he was appointed. Plus, as it says in the report, what they did wouldn’t be criminal because they supposedly didn’t know it was criminal, least it couldn’t be proven definitively that they knew they were breaking the law

But to deny that the two entities didn’t work together would be ludicrous, as I said, over a hundred documented exchanges between the campaign and Russians, the Trump Tower alone proves a consciousness connection

 

[zymurgy]

Which they found that they had not.... *sigh* folks need to stop getting caught up in the word that Schiff used to mislead folks. The reality is, the report even indicates that even though they had ample opportunity and offers they still did not work with the Russians or otherwise conspire with them. It simply does not reflect what Schiff pretended he had seen evidence of in order for Schiff to interfere in the election. The evidence did not exist, it was entirely fictional, it was a lie, it wasn't even "transtruthful", it was cis-fictional.

quit defending your lover Schiff already

 

[zymurgy]

Here we go again with the semantics, proving planned coordination, no, he would have had to turn a top official in the Trump campaign to prove that, and Mueller was way to incompetent, reason he was appointed. Plus, as it says in the report, what they did wouldn’t be criminal because they supposedly didn’t know it was criminal, least it couldn’t be proven definitively that they knew they were breaking the law

But to deny that the two entities didn’t work together would be ludicrous, as I said, over a hundred documented exchanges between the campaign and Russians, the Trump Tower alone proves a consciousness connection

Mueller says no evidence of them working together

Schiff says he saw the evidence

is Mueller lying?

 

[Damocles]

The Russians interfered, as you imply, as they have always done, but never before was there documented proof of a direct connection between the Russians and a candidate’s political campaign. Mueller alone documented over one hundred contacts between the Russians and the Trump campaign, if you read the report, which I guarantee few if any Trump supporters have, one would have to think the Russians were doing everything but parking cars

The report notes that they had ample opportunity (contacts), but still did not work with the Russians, and it makes it clear that there is no evidence of that. Seriously, no evidence, you know that stuff that Schiff lied and said he had seen... he lied to you, to all of America, in order to interfere in an election. He deserved to be kicked out of Congress, but instead the weak congresscritters gave him censure and let him keep his cushy job.

 

[martin]

Which they found that they had not.... *sigh* folks need to stop getting caught up in the word that Schiff used to mislead folks. The reality is, the report even indicates that even though they had ample opportunity and offers they still did not work with the Russians or otherwise conspire with them. It simply does not reflect what Schiff pretended he had seen evidence of in order for Schiff to interfere in the election. The evidence did not exist, it was entirely fictional, it was a lie, it wasn't even "transtruthful", it was cis-fictional.

"Collusion" wasn't Schiff's word; it had become the term used widely from early in the campaign, once the Russian contacts became generally known. Sigh.

 

[archives]

Which they found that they had not.... *sigh* folks need to stop getting caught up in the word that Schiff used to mislead folks. The reality is, the report even indicates that even though they had ample opportunity and offers they still did not work with the Russians or otherwise conspire with them. It simply does not reflect what Schiff pretended he had seen evidence of in order for Schiff to interfere in the election. The evidence did not exist, it was entirely fictional, it was a lie, it wasn't even "transtruthful", it was cis-fictional.

That’s absurd, common sense dictates that alone Manaford secretly meeting with Russians to exchange polling data proves the two were working together

 

[zymurgy]

That’s absurd, common sense dictates that alone Manaford secretly meeting with Russians to exchange polling data proves the two were working together

also on page 2

"requires more than the two parties taking actions that were informed by or responsive to the other’s actions or interests."

 

[Damocles]

"Collusion" wasn't Schiff's word; it had become the term used widely from early in the campaign, once the Russian contacts became generally known. Sigh.

Geebus...

https://www.politico.com/story/2019/04/21/adam-schiff-collusion-trump-1283786

Schiff said, "Ample evidence of collusion"...

I said he said collusion, because he said collusion. I used the word here when quoting him, because it was the word he used.