Bfgrn
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"If everybody in this town connected with politics had to leave town because of chasing women and drinking, you would have no government."
Barry Goldwater
Weiner: Yeah, it was my wiener!
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"If everybody in this town connected with politics had to leave town because of chasing women and drinking, you would have no government."
Barry Goldwater
Bfgrn
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Quitting is for losers. He screwed up, he admitted he screwed up. So now you carry on. His actions did not compromise the oath he took to defend the Constitution. This is petty politics at it's worst. The issues Weiner passionately works for are a MILLION times more important than his personal transgressions. He did not commit a crime. There is no sentence for NON crimes unless they are self imposed. I hope he stays. America desperately needs his voice and advocacy.
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Really? As far as I know, neither Bush nor Obama has ever been guilty of lying about personal behavior...if either had, I'd suggest they resign, too.
The public trust is part and parcel of public service, and cynical attitudes are counterproductive when considering these types of shameful episodes.
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His actions have compromised his ability to represent his constituents effectively, just as Ted Kennedy's career was forever tainted by Chappaquiddick, BJ Clinton's by Monica, and many others.
Unlike the examples I just cited, Weiner at least still has the option of doing the right thing.
Interesting. You didn't seem like a person who would be all for his resignation.
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I don't know where you get some of your ideas.
Integrity is essential in public officeholders and personal relationships. Party affiliation and hair-splitting excuses are unacceptable.
Richard Nixon resigned.
Randy Cunnigham resigned.
Chris Lee resigned.
They did the right thing for the nation and their constituents in shameful circumstances.
Weiner should, too.
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The Almighty
What the hell does the above have to do with this situation? This has nothing to do with separation of church and state. It is also completely irrelevant whether a child can be created.
What matters is this: He LIED and he cheated on his wife. Had he come out and been honest about it from the start, this would be an issue between him and his wife. The fact that he not only lied, but also created conspiracies and blamed Breitbart etc... THAT is why this became a much bigger issue.
Add in the fact that he opened a whole new can of worms with his comments last night and he has a big potential problem. The 'they were adults as far as I could tell' will undoubtedly lead to an investigation to see if any minors received inappropriate pics.
He has lost public trust-T R U S T a virtue not important to you...leastwise if it's broken by a lib. If weenie boy had said from the beginning it was him then the shame and embarrassment would still be his, the trouble with his wife would still be his- but the notion he is a standup guy when confronted would at least still be intact. At this point, apart from his weiner, the only thing stand up is his arrogance. Liars cannot be trusted to be upholding anything-let alone the Constitution- and they certainly shouldn't be getting paid tax dollars to perpetrate that fraudulent idea.
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WinterBorn
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Oh, so the definition of "cheating" is based on whether or not a child can be conceived?? WTF? So oral sex is not cheating? And no homosexual can ever be accused of cheating?
What if someone has had a vasectomy, can they have sex outside their marriage it not be cheating??
Yeah, I am aware of the basis for Article VI, paragraph 3. What amazes me is that you are trying to somehow connect this to a religious test. I said absolutely nothing about religion. The fact that this man swore to be faithful to his wife, and then was not, that he said it was not him and that he didn't do it, and then admitted that he did, shows him to be a liar and untrustworthy. That is not a case specific trait. If he cannot be faithful to his wife, why would anyone believe he would be faithful to the oath he took when he was sworn in? It has nothing to do with any religious test.
Unless you think lying is only wrong for religious people?
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WinterBorn
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Then we would start over and get a new batch of people who wouldn't lie or cheat. The fact that we accept all the lying and cheating in Washington DC is a crying shame.
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WinterBorn
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He blatantly lied. That should be the end of any politician's career. That you think lying to us is ok shows a partisanship that is a real shame.
His causes will suffer for what he did. Clear him out and get someone in who will fight the good fight. The causes will not die because we remove a liar from DC.
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WinterBorn
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"He screwed up, he admitted he screwed up. " He didn't admit anything until he pretty much had to do so. He hide it, then he lied about it, then he lied about it more, and then, when all else failed, he admitted it. He didn't stand up and admit. He was basically forced to admit what he had done. There is nothing worthwhile about that.
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WinterBorn
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So he should be gone too. The idea that others do something is not justification for allowing it but should be justification for needing a bigger bus to take the assholes out of town for good.
Topspin
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whatever, people can whine till the cows come home.
Like I said Vitter is way worse, this dude photo'd his junk likely in a failed attempt to cheat with a hottie.
Not illegal, Vitter committed a crime several times. I could give to shits about vitter paying a whore, but him being a rightwing family values guy makes it hillarious.
Like I said Vitter is way worse, this dude photo'd his junk likely in a failed attempt to cheat with a hottie.
Not illegal, Vitter committed a crime several times. I could give to shits about vitter paying a whore, but him being a rightwing family values guy makes it hillarious.
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Barney Frank should've resigned.
John Ensign resigned.
Charlie Rangel should've resigned.
Maxine Waters should've resigned.
Alphonso Jackson resigned.
Lurita Doan resigned.
Julie McDonald resigned.
Lester Crawford resigned.
Janet Rehnquist resigned.
Henry Cisneros resigned.
Weiner should resign, too.
John Ensign resigned.
Charlie Rangel should've resigned.
Maxine Waters should've resigned.
Alphonso Jackson resigned.
Lurita Doan resigned.
Julie McDonald resigned.
Lester Crawford resigned.
Janet Rehnquist resigned.
Henry Cisneros resigned.
Weiner should resign, too.
Bfgrn
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Wouldn't demanding he step down be the government being the determiner of religious beliefs or practices. Being unfaithfulness to your spouse in not a crime. It would fall into the category of a sin. A sin is a religious sanction, not a legal one.
WHAT does being unfaithful to his wife have to do with being faithful to his oath to protect and defend the Constitution? This is right wing conformist mentality
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The Almighty
This again has NOTHING to do with his religious practices you dolt. It has to do with the fact that he broke an OATH to his wife and the fact that he LIED to the public about it. That is a reason to not TRUST him in ANYTHING he does going forward. NO ONE is saying or suggesting that what he did is a crime. NO ONE.
He has already explained that to you. If he is willing to break one oath, why would you trust him to keep the other? It has nothing to do with conforming. It has to do with TRUST. you are simply tossing up one straw man after another in the hopes that one will be able to defend him. He is done. Toast. He may stay until the election in 2012, but he is toast. New York is not the forgiving type. If Dem leadership doesn't quietly convince him to resign... the voters will most likely knock him out in the primaries.
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The lies he told are the issue that would cause a legislator with a shred of decency to leave office. The reason he lied is secondary.
Weiner lied.
His effectiveness as a legislator is compromised by his lack of integrity.