Taichiliberal
Shaken, not stirred!
Originally Posted by Taichiliberal
No bullshit or spin...Slick Willy gets an article of impeachment for lying under oath....the willfully ignornant neocon toadies and parrots want to leave it at that. The average schmoe with a high school diploma and a job would ask, "what did he lie about?". Answer....an extra-marital affair...which had NOTHING to do with the initial investigation into an alleged insider trading violation.....which came to public attention not by his wife filing for divorce, but via an illegal wiretap that's inadmissable in court. Results: no Wall St. trading violation uncovered, but a Millions of tax payers dollars wasted.
No bullshit or spin......a right wing attack dog ponies up evidence that Weiner been web flirting with a bunch of women via nude/lewd/suggestive pics, tweets and e-mails. Weiner lies badly about it, and has to publically cop to the lying. Big deal for his new bride wife who is now pregnant.....Publically embarassing, critical damage for a re-election, possible ethics violation in using gov't property, but has NOTHING to do with his record of revealing neocon BS on the Congressional floor.
Anyone party screaming moral outrage from either side of the political fence are living in glass houses and should STFU.
Wow.... all that rambling and it doesn't change ONE thing about what I wrote. REGARDLESS of how Clinton came to that point in time.... HE LIED UNDER OATH and was impeached for LYING UNDER OATH.... not for getting a blow job. People are hammering Weiner, not because he was tweeting pics, but because he LIED to the public, he broke trust with the PUBLIC. Had he come out and stated the truth from the start then this would have quickly become a non-issue for all but the right wing fringe.
Wow indeed, as you prove my point with your Super Freak-ing parroting....the willfully ignornant neocon toadies and parrots want to leave it at that. The average schmoe with a high school diploma and a job would ask, "what did he lie about?". Answer....an extra-marital affair...which had NOTHING to do with the initial investigation into an alleged insider trading violation.....which came to public attention not by his wife filing for divorce, but via an illegal wiretap that's inadmissable in court. Results: no Wall St. trading violation uncovered, but a Millions of tax payers dollars wasted. In other words, Starr was just as guilty as Clinton for wasting taxpayers money and Congressional/White House time, because an exit poll showed that the "public trust" didn't give a good God damn about Clinton's indiscretions because he was putting JOBS and money on the table that 12 years of reaganomics had screwed the public out of.
As for Weiner, I've stated outright that he's an idiot, who's lies have caused more trouble than the neocon attack dogs could have dreamed....but given the latest pics and information revealed, Weiner still would have been screwed, IMHO.
THE DIFFERENCE IS THAT CLINTON'S PROBLEMS CAME TO LIGHT VIA A BOGUS BASED "HAIL MARY" TACTIC BY STARR.....Weiner is just another muk raking news got'cha.
The POINT I made remains.... it is bullshit to state Clinton was impeached for a blow job or that Weiner is getting waxed because of a tweet.
Your "point" is myopic as usual......check the list of politicos on both sides of the fence in the last 30 years that immediately copped to the charge when caught, and see how they faired. It's the exception to the rule if they continue in office or are re-elected. Lying just makes it worst. Remember, Clinton had a 54% approval rating as he left office for the final time...and that was AFTER the Lewinsky affair. The Slickster stated in his farewell address that if he could run again, he'd win hands down. I dare say he would (but not with my vote).
As I and others have stated, I KNOW both sides lie to us.... the point is we SHOULD ALL be outraged when it is proven to us and we should all hold EACH AND EVERY ONE of them accountable when they do so.... REGARDLESS of what letter is in parenthesis after their name.
Well, in the two years I've been on these boards, I have yet to see similar outrage by the self identified conservatives, tea party members, libertarians, oathers, threepers and whatever else the hell is of the conservative off-shoot, when a Republican has been nailed in similar circumstances. Just saying.