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PostmodernProphet said:
/shrugs.....anyone who has played everquest is familiar with emotes......and besides, you aren't my friend......you've proven that repeatedly already.....
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Are you trying to tell me that a center right moderate like me can't be friends with an extremist right wingnut like you? Well I never! That's no way to earn trust SM!
 
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That the conversation on this thread has detoured to the old bickering about abortion
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PostmodernProphet said:
might as well use the space for something important....it was just going to waste anyway.....
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Hmmm, good point....since we've determined that any "defense" of the Kilemead blunder is a waste of time.

My two cents on abortion: until this country starts treating our kids sex education with the same attention that we do say, sports, abortion will be a necessity. And if we have no problem sending high school seniors off to get maimed or killed in elective wars, or shrugging off killing innocent civilians as "collateral damage" then keeping our noses out of a woman's decision to abort should be no big deal.
 
Yurt said:
what a silly notion that saints are somehow perfect, all knowing and must always be right....
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He was meaning that a saint probably had a little more credibility than a poster on the internet. Saying that he said he was "somehow perfect" is nothing but a straw man.
 
Watermark said:
He was meaning that a saint probably had a little more credibility than a poster on the internet. Saying that he said he was "somehow perfect" is nothing but a straw man.
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I see no reason that a "Saint" would have any more credibility than an internet poster on the irrational subject of when a soul is assigned to a body. It's not like any of them have any evidence of it in any way. Just being a Priest or a Pastor would have no more standing, even adding "Saint" which only happens after somebody dies anyway and they aren't talking, it still doesn't seem rational to say they have any more idea than you do when the soul suddenly decides to inhabit a body.
 
Watermark said:
He was meaning that a saint probably had a little more credibility than a poster on the internet. Saying that he said he was "somehow perfect" is nothing but a straw man.
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being a saint doesn't mean you have any more intelligence than anyone else, so relying on a saint to prove a point is silly....happy now
 
Dixie said:
You keep inferring that someone is mistakenly calling fetuses and embryos human beings, and we've already established what biological fact says they are. This is not up for debate, it is simply NOT a matter of opinion. A human fetus or embryo, is a human life.... end of discussion on that. Unless you can provide some kind of biological evidence that the life form is not human, or it's not living, then you have to accept it is indeed a human life. Is this sinking in? We can't 'debate' something that isn't debatable! You continue to remain in DENIAL of what is being done here, you want to think a fetus or embryo is something besides what biology tells us it is.
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You keep insisting biologically classifying something is the only way to classify something and that's what is debatable. Biologically speaking, an egg is a chicken. But an egg is not a chicken. Biologically speaking, an acorn is an oak tree. But an acorn is not an oak tree in the every day way we classify things.

Perhaps an analogy. We can say a mouse is food and a mouse is, indeed, food for cats but try serving that to human beings. (All I can say is they don't know what they're missing.) :-)

As we mature/evolve as a species we find it necessary to make distinctions. We continue to incorporate logic and the first situation that arises is with problem pregnancies if an embryo/fetus is considered a human being.

If a woman and her 10 year old son are standing on a balcony waiting for the fire truck because the building is on fire and the balcony can not support both their weights is she legally permitted to push her 75 pound son off the ledge to certain death? Her son is just as much a threat to her well being as the majority of problem pregnancies.

If she she allowed to kill an innocent human being, her offspring, in order to save her own life if there be a problem pregnancy then it must follow she is allowed to push her son off the balcony.

If you disagree perhaps you could explain the difference?
 
PostmodernProphet said:
good lord...killing unborn children is about as far removed from common sense as you can get.....
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Riiiight. Let's bring more children into the world while we watch the ones who are already here die from starvation and disease. What was I thinking?

/sigh....of course there's a logical justification....why wouldn't saving the life of the mother be a logical justification?.....
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Kill the healthy individual so the defective one can live. Again, what was I thinking?

ah, we've "progressed" to the stage of killing our children.....must be evolution at work.....
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It's preventing bringing children into the world who will be neglected.

just out of curiosity, are you blond?.....
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No, if I was I'd probably see the situation as you do.
 
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maineman said:
and of course we know, that there are few enough that think like YOU that you will ALWAYS be on the outside looking in at Roe v. Wade.
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aweshucks, maine.....you know what I meant.....watching you think is like watching a kid's first experience driving with a standard transmission.....you have trouble with the clutch and you think R stands for "repeat" instead of "reverse".......
 
Mottleydude said:
Are you trying to tell me that a center right moderate like me can't be friends with an extremist right wingnut like you? Well I never! That's no way to earn trust SM!
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nope, just recalling the posts you've made since I arrived.....there's nothing friendly about you......
 
apple0154 said:
Biologically speaking, an acorn is an oak tree. But an acorn is not an oak tree in the every day way we classify things.
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perhaps this will help you understand your error.....I know this symantical puzzle is frequently used by pro-baby killers to confuse the argument and I have had to deal with it many times before.....both the acorn and the tree are oaks....true, the acorn is not an oak tree or even an oak sapling, but it is the earliest stage of life of that thing known as an oak......the acorn is not part of the stage of life of a birch or a sequoia....it will only and ever will only, be oak.....
 
PostmodernProphet said:
ah, but does SM repeatedly slap you silly like I do?......
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Boy some ego you have there. If being you're being able to produce a sentence with a two syllable word spelled correctly is being slapped silly, then you kinda need to work on your standards GED. So far, you've proven you have a loooooong ways to go to be one of the better debaters around here. Alls you do is toss around old rehashed right wing rhetoric. So far you rank with the other GED lightweights like Bravo, Webway and the rest of the Newsmax cut n paste crowd.

So tell me Mr. GED Master of Debate. When are we going to hear an original thought from you? We haven't heard one yet.
 
apple0154 said:
If you disagree perhaps you could explain the difference?
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think this scenario through....I think I have seen it half a dozen times in movies or television shows........imagine a woman who is pregnant.....she wants to have her baby, but she is dying of a disease or has a traumatic injury from an accident......the doctors can save her but only at the expense of her child......usually in the movie the husband is quick to tell the doctors to save his wife and let the child die......the mother heroically denies treatment and wants to save her child......there is a pause for commercials so you can contemplate the angst and get another soda......

okay, what is your gut reaction.....if you are normal you say "your nuts, woman!....you don't give up your life and your husband and your other two kids to save the life of this kid".......

you have that gut reaction because you already know the difference.....
 
apple0154 said:
Riiiight. Let's bring more children into the world while we watch the ones who are already here die from starvation and disease. What was I thinking?
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apparently that doing two stupid things is better than doing one smart one....how about you don't kill the one and don't let the other's die.....

It's preventing bringing children into the world who will be neglected.
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???...were you neglected as a child?.....
 
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Mottleydude said:
Boy some ego you have there. If being you're being able to produce a sentence with a two syllable word spelled correctly is being slapped silly, then you kinda need to work on your standards GED. So far, you've proven you have a loooooong ways to go to be one of the better debaters around here. Alls you do is toss around old rehashed right wing rhetoric. So far you rank with the other GED lightweights like Bravo, Webway and the rest of the Newsmax cut n paste crowd.

So tell me Mr. GED Master of Debate. When are we going to hear an original thought from you? We haven't heard one yet.
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so you really must think quite highly of your debate skills.....face it, you don't like him because of his views, not intelligence or debate skills....if he was frothing at the mouth liberal stuff like dunceler or ibdumb you would call him a genius
 
Yurt said:
so you really must think quite highly of your debate skills.....face it, you don't like him because of his views, not intelligence or debate skills....if he was frothing at the mouth liberal stuff like dunceler or ibdumb you would call him a genius
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Just out of interest, has he done that?

I want to know because he hasn't called me a bloody genius and i would be very upset if i had been overlooked. Very upset.
 
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