#walkaway

As for "why Dems don't moderate," why don't Republicans start seeing the world rationally?

I think people under the Trump spell can't understand the frustration many have for their fellow Americans, who can't seem to see at all what the rest of us can see very clearly.
 
Did you just criticize identity politics while invoking identity politics?

Did you just deny a political reality lol?

It is what it is. The left started with identity politics; which left white voters feeling marginalized and the electoral consequences are there whether I comment on it or not.
 
As for "why Dems don't moderate," why don't Republicans start seeing the world rationally?

I think people under the Trump spell can't understand the frustration many have for their fellow Americans, who can't seem to see at all what the rest of us can see very clearly.

Trump voters withstood 8 years of frustration.

And we did it with a hell of a lot more dignity. Granted, that’s not saying much after the last year plus.
 
Did you just deny a political reality lol?

It is what it is. The left started with identity politics; which left white voters feeling marginalized and the electoral consequences are there whether I comment on it or not.

Oh - just "they started it" now?

The right plays identity politics just as much as the left. They're more stealth about it, but it's really just become a catch-phrase for them to use - they don't think about their own role in it.
 
The "Greens" are not going to influence the direction of the nation...so it doesn't matter if they are a progressive party or not. The Democrats WILL influence the direction of the nation...and the Dems are certainly more progressive than the reactionary dark forces of the right.

So...yes, I often find myself voting for Democrats.

Jeez!

Well, they sure "influenced it" in 2016!! :D
 
Trump voters withstood 8 years of frustration.

And we did it with a hell of a lot more dignity. Granted, that’s not saying much after the last year plus.

You & I will definitely disagree on what "dignity" is. I guess you have amnesia about the birther movement, talk radio, your own board name, constant efforts to paint Obama as something other than American, very thinly veiled racism and Trump himself.

"Dignity" is laughable.
 
#walkaway is the #3 trending hashtag on Twitter and it’s about Democrats walking away from their party. It’s not about Trump so much [no, not everything is about Trump lol] but reflects discontent with the radical direction the party has taken.

Here is a sample:

I grew up in California. I decided to #WalkAway A few weeks ago while discussing immigration with a friend and was called a Nazi sympathizer for stating facts. I'm hispanic and my parents immigrated to the US from Mexico. How did this happen?

I did my own #walkaway this year. Voted D all my life since I was 18. I'm 42 now and just voted straight R ticket in the CA primary. Never felt better.

I'm loving the #WalkAway movement! It's refreshing to see Americans who realize their country is being destroyed by the radical left and wake up to the truth.

Where in CA?
 
Did you just deny a political reality lol?

It is what it is. The left started with identity politics; which left white voters feeling marginalized and the electoral consequences are there whether I comment on it or not.

Identity politics in america began with the founding. In fact, the only group even allowed to vote was the land holding aristocracy. Ya don't get much more "identity politics? than that.
 
Oh - just "they started it" now?

The right plays identity politics just as much as the left. They're more stealth about it, but it's really just become a catch-phrase for them to use - they don't think about their own role in it.

There’s no identity politics in MAGA.

Black employment numbers are at historic highs and no one, including the media, celebrates that more than Trump supporters.

I think it’s magnificent. And had it occurred under Obama’s watch, they’d given him a Nobel Prize in economics lol.
 
Wanna bet the #walkaway thing gets traced to Russian troll farms?

Yes they are still active and yes they are still humping for Trump and the GOP

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There’s no identity politics in MAGA.

Black employment numbers are at historic highs and no one, including the media, celebrates that more than Trump supporters.

I think it’s magnificent. And had it occurred under Obama’s watch, they’d given him a Nobel Prize in economics lol.

No one celebrates that more than Trump supporters?

How do you know? Seriously. You don't know that, and it simply isn't true of many & probably most Trump supporters. Many support Trump because they are terrified of whites losing ground in America, and that is not disputable.
 
No one celebrates that more than Trump supporters?

How do you know? Seriously. You don't know that, and it simply isn't true of many & probably most Trump supporters. Many support Trump because they are terrified of whites losing ground in America, and that is not disputable.

Sit there and watch me dispute it lol.

Trump supporters advocate *legal* immigration. People trying to get into the country need to respect our laws and not try to game the system. The fact that many do just that, is indisputable.

Never underestimate the left’s cynicism. They will use border children to try and get rid of ICE and/or get the country to where it’s southern border is little more than a line on a map.

They have zero interest in controlling the border because they can’t get whites to minority status fast enough.

And that cat is out of the bag.
 
Sit there and watch me dispute it lol.

Trump supporters advocate *legal* immigration. People trying to get into the country need to respect our laws and not try to game the system. The fact that many do just that, is indisputable.

Never underestimate the left’s cynicism. They will use border children to try and get rid of ICE and/or get the country to where it’s southern border is little more than a line on a map.

They have zero interest in controlling the border because they can’t get whites to minority status fast enough.

And that cat is out of the bag.

I think you're generalizing too much. No doubt that "open borders" applies to the fringe left, but not to most of the left and certainly not to most Democrat politicians. The open borders mantra is a typical Trump fear tactic.

Of course the left wants some border control and immigration policy - but they reject the inhumanity of treating illegal crossing like a class A felony. There is middle ground here, and broad areas where both sides can find agreement.
 
I think you're generalizing too much. No doubt that "open borders" applies to the fringe left, but not to most of the left and certainly not to most Democrat politicians. The open borders mantra is a typical Trump fear tactic.

Of course the left wants some border control and immigration policy - but they reject the inhumanity of treating illegal crossing like a class A felony. There is middle ground here, and broad areas where both sides can find agreement.

Obama separated families.

The media was at its absolute worse on this issue—and that’s a strong statement. Even Time magazine stooped propagandizing it.

Why? Because they want to open the border. And for reasons that have nothing to do with improving the country or improving things for actual citizens who were born here, vote and pay taxes.
 
Obama separated families.

The media was at its absolute worse on this issue—and that’s a strong statement. Even Time magazine stooped propagandizing it.

Why? Because they want to open the border. And for reasons that have nothing to do with improving the country or improving things for actual citizens who were born here, vote and pay taxes.

Separations were rare under Obama - you have to stop using that as cover.

Trump's zero tolerance is much more extreme and has led to much greater frequency of separations.
 
Separations were rare under Obama - you have to stop using that as cover.

Trump's zero tolerance is much more extreme and has led to much greater frequency of separations.

You have to stop apologizing for Obama lol.

Why does it seem like you care more about people who don’t even live in this country than people who do?

Should it concern Democrats that that’s a common and growing perception? Or are Democrats just misunderstood?
 
You have to stop apologizing for Obama lol.

Why does it seem like you care more about people who don’t even live in this country than people who do?

Should it concern Democrats that that’s a common and growing perception? Or are Democrats just misunderstood?

Stating facts is now "apologizing"?

I care about people in general. I don't care about those who don't live here "more" - can you please provide the verbiage that you are basing that false characterization on?

As far as perception, Trump's propaganda controls that now more than anything, and his supporters' repetition of that. Perception generally have very little to do w/ reality these days.

I mean, look what you just did w/ my position, and how blatantly dishonest you were about it. There is really nothing I can do about that.
 
You have to stop apologizing for Obama lol.

Why does it seem like you care more about people who don’t even live in this country than people who do?

Should it concern Democrats that that’s a common and growing perception? Or are Democrats just misunderstood?
That’s another line from the playbook. I don’t think Thing or any of us care more for one child over another, we care for all children. They are the innocents in these situations.
 
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