Ukraine urged to destroy Russia's bridge to Crimea

[Cypress]

The Azov Nazis will have eight years of shelling pro-Russian civilians to answer for.

Ukraine had the right to use military force to put down an insurrection on it's sovereign territory for the exact same reason Abraham Lincoln was justified using military force to subdue an insurrection in the United States.

You are obviously enjoying seeing apartment buildings bombed.

 

[Althea]

He's okay with being an international pariah.

So was trump.


They suffer similar psychoses

 

[moon]

Ukraine had the right to use military force to put down an insurrection on it's sovereign territory for the exact same reason Abraham Lincoln was justified using military force to subdue an insurrection in the United States.

The legitimate government was overthrown - so the ' rights ' of any puppets are, of course, suspect. Such rights, however, would not included shelling civilians for eight years, nor would they include rounding up trade unionists and burning them alive. Your bloodlust credentials are hereby confirmed.

 

[Cypress]

The legitimate government was overthrown - so the ' rights ' of any puppets are, of course, suspect. Such rights, however, would not included shelling civilians for eight years, nor would they include rounding up trade unionists and burning them alive. Your bloodlust credentials are hereby confirmed.

Ukraine had the same right to use military force to put down an insurrection on their sovereign territory that Russia had to put down a Chechen insurrection on sovereign territory of the Russian Federation.

 

[martin]

The legitimate government was overthrown - so the ' rights ' of any puppets are, of course, suspect. Such rights, however, would not included shelling civilians for eight years, nor would they include rounding up trade unionists and burning them alive. Your bloodlust credentials are hereby confirmed.

The "legitimate government" of the American colonies was overthrown but when the populace embraced the revolutionary installed government it became legitimate. Same is true in Ukraine. Same is true in Russia 100 years ago, for that matter.

 

[McRocket]

Russia's recent wave of attacks on Ukraine may have violated the laws of war and would amount to war crimes if civilians were deliberately targeted, the United Nations said Tuesday.

"These strikes may have violated the principles of the conduct of hostilities under international humanitarian law," Ravina Shamdasani, a spokeswoman for the UN human rights office, told reporters in Geneva, adding that intentionally targeting civilians and civilian objects, "amounts to a war crime."

https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2022...ues-strikes-on-civilian-infrastructure-a79049

And if the attack on Kerch bridge turns out to - indeed - have been carried out by the Ukraine government?
Where 3 civilians were killed?

https://yournews.com/2022/10/10/243...firms-ukraine-orchestrated-truck-bomb-attack/

Would that also be a war crime - to you?
Yes or no, please?


Once again...I am 100% against Russia's invasion of Ukraine proper.

 

[Cypress]

And if the attack on Kerch bridge turns out to - indeed - have been carried out by the Ukraine government?
Where 3 civilians were killed?

https://yournews.com/2022/10/10/243...firms-ukraine-orchestrated-truck-bomb-attack/

Would that also be a war crime - to you?
Yes or no, please?


Once again...I am 100% against Russia's invasion of Ukraine proper.

The bridge is the major supply route for the Russian army in Crimea, and a legitimate military target. It would have been shocking if the Ukranians blew it up during peak holiday season when the bridge was packed with civilian cars.

Nothing about what actually happened at the Kerch bridge compares with bombing apartment buildings which have no military value.

 

[McRocket]

The bridge is the major supply route for the Russian army in Crimea, and a legitimate military target. It would have been shocking if the Ukranians blew it up during peak holiday season when the bridge was packed with civilian cars.

Nothing about what actually happened at the Kerch bridge compares with bombing apartment buildings which have no military value.

I'll take that as a 'no'.

So then you obviously think it is not a war crime if the Russians target all, major supply routes for the Ukrainian army, in Ukraine?
Yes or no, please?

BTW, you do realize that, either you answer 'yes'?
Or you are a hypocrite on this.

 

[ExpressLane]

I'll take that as a 'no'.

So then you obviously think it is not a war crime if the Russians target all, major supply routes for the Ukrainian army in Ukraine?
Yes or no, please?

BTW, either you answer 'yes'?
Or you are a hypocrite on this?

Actually the Russians invading Ukraine is one big war crime.

 

[McRocket]

Actually the Russians invading Ukraine is one big war crime.

I agree.

 

[Cypress]

I'll take that as a 'no'.

So then you obviously think it is not a war crime if the Russians target all, major supply routes for the Ukrainian army, in Ukraine?
Yes or no, please?

BTW, you do realize that, either you answer 'yes'?
Or you are a hypocrite on this.

You are not going to find a single person on the UN war crimes commission calling the strike on the Kerch bridge a war crime. As the major supply route for the invading Russian army in southern Ukraine, it was a legitimate military target in a way that an apartment building isn't.

 

[Cypress]

I doubt you will listen to me but be wary of the lessons of history. If Russia is totally humiliated and reduced to penury like Germany in the interregnum between the world wars, then maybe another Stalin will emerge.

No comparison.

Germany was asked to give up territory, all of it's colonies, to give up it's army, and to have it's industrial heartland basically taken out of it's sovereign control.


Nobody is even remotely asking the same of Russia. We just want them to stop committing war crimes and withdraw their invading forces from sovereign Ukrainian land

 

[cancel2 2022]

No comparison.

Germany was asked to give up territory, all of it's colonies, to give up it's army, and to have it's industrial heartland basically taken out of it's sovereign control.


Nobody is even remotely asking the same of Russia. We just want them to stop committing war crimes and withdraw their invading forces from sovereign Ukrainian land

Don't you think I know all that already? However your response is pretty much what I expected.

 

[saltydancin]

No comparison.

Germany was asked to give up territory, all of it's colonies, to give up it's army, and to have it's industrial heartland basically taken out of it's sovereign control.


Nobody is even remotely asking the same of Russia. We just want them to stop committing war crimes and withdraw their invading forces from sovereign Ukrainian land

Russia's Orthodox Church rootin' tootin' Putin suicidal super ego sociopsychopathilogical homicidal human farming of Ukraine is as decades in business economics of the Catholic Church "serve the Pope or die" more perfect union to Islam "death to the infidels" where continueing to maintain this Christian Nation SCOTUS sentence of it's only "one nation under God with equal justice under law" from Islam medical human reproduction fabricated virgin Mary misnomer immaculate son of Allah Jesus the Christ conception precedent with Federal Lynching KKK churchstate of hate enforcement for what has been overtly ongoing for over 50 years including that second coming crusade - jihad of 9/11

 

[moon]

Ukraine had the same right to use military force to put down an insurrection on their sovereign territory that Russia had to put down a Chechen insurrection on sovereign territory of the Russian Federation.

Of course not. The pro-Russian Ukrainians had been disenfranchised by a coup- meaning that their DEMOCRACY had been overturned and they see themselves as Russians anyway- as determined by means of referenda

That US-led coup does keep biting your ass, doesn't it, bugler.

 

[moon]

Russia's Orthodox Church rootin' tootin' Putin suicidal super ego sociopsychopathilogical homicidal human farming of Ukraine is as decades in business economics of the Catholic Church "serve the Pope or die" more perfect union to Islam "death to the infidels" where continueing to maintain this Christian Nation SCOTUS sentence of it's only "one nation under God with equal justice under law" from Islam medical human reproduction fabricated virgin Mary misnomer immaculate son of Allah Jesus the Christ conception precedent with Federal Lynching KKK churchstate of hate enforcement for what has been overtly ongoing for over 50 years including that second coming crusade - jihad of 9/11

Your opinion always welcomed, salty- whatever it might be.

 

[McRocket]

You are not going to find a single person on the UN war crimes commission calling the strike on the Kerch bridge a war crime. As the major supply route for the invading Russian army in southern Ukraine, it was a legitimate military target in a way that an apartment building isn't.

TOTALLY dodged my INCREDIBLY, simple question.

You typed:

'The bridge is the major supply route for the Russian army in Crimea, and a legitimate military target.'
https://www.justplainpolitics.com/s...ssia-s-bridge-to-Crimea&p=5318133#post5318133


I will give you one, last chance to answer the incredibly simple question:

So then you obviously think it is not a war crime if the Russians target all, major supply routes for the Ukrainian army, in Ukraine?
Yes or no, please?

You answer ANYTHING but 'yes'?
And it is clear that you are a TOTAL hypocrite on this.
And you apply, completely different, humanitarian standards to each country.
Which is pretty fucked up.



Once again, I am 100% against Russia invading Ukraine proper.

 

[moon]

And it is clear that you are a TOTAL hypocrite on this.
And you apply, completely different, humanitarian standards to each country.
Which is pretty fucked up.

.

Hypocrites term exposure of their hypocrisy ' Whataboutism '

 

[McRocket]

Hypocrites term exposure of their hypocrisy ' Whataboutism '

I just learned a new term.
Thanks.

And I agree.

I can respect someone holding hypocritical views.
If they at least have the guts to admit they are acting hypocritical on the subject.
But I don't respect hypocrites who cannot even admit it.

 

[moon]

Watching the NATO hypocrisy over Ukraine is a demonstration of hypocrisy as policy.