Trump administration to lift federal transgender bathroom guidelines

anatta said:
anti-bullying laws remain in effect.
It's a lunatic stretch to include gender identity as a protected class like minority when we are talking about biology.
You say you are a libertarian,but I do not see any independent views from Democrats/statist from you.

cannot/locals the states do this as they wish according to prevailing public attitudes?
of course they can
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The guidelines also contained some provisions demanding that schools properly protect children from bullying. I have not read anything that says those were left in place.

I believe in equality under the law. States don't have rights, individuals do. That did not come from a democrat but Ayn Rand and I will argue the 9th and 10th amendments. Of course, it took the 14th to make that a legal reality.

I don't agree with Obama's entire guidelines. The part about the bullying is fine. The bathroom stuff should probably be left to the states, for now. But there is no doubt the President has more authority here than with what Trump is trying to pull with his attack on so called sanctuary cities much less what he threatened against Berkeley.
 
"In college at my frat house we had three mens rooms and a womans room... during big parties the women would usually outnumber the men.
We simply turned all bathrooms co-ed, it was never a problem." J #53

Yes BUT !!

That was in an environment where the illusion of anonymity is reduced.
If you need any insight on how anonymity emboldens some to do wrong, just read some of the potty-mouth comments posted in this forum, under pseud.

I wouldn't say a frat party, and Yankee Stadium are perfect corollaries in that regard.


M #57

Thanks for noticing.

How old am I? Old enough. Got a sister?
 
Dick from the Internet said:
The guidelines also contained some provisions demanding that schools properly protect children from bullying. I have not read anything that says those were left in place.

I believe in equality under the law. States don't have rights, individuals do. That did not come from a democrat but Ayn Rand and I will argue the 9th and 10th amendments. Of course, it took the 14th to make that a legal reality.

I don't agree with Obama's entire guidelines. The part about the bullying is fine. The bathroom stuff should probably be left to the states, for now. But there is no doubt the President has more authority here than with what Trump is trying to pull with his attack on so called sanctuary cities much less what he threatened against Berkeley.
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human rights only accrue to individuals - but federal powers are limited by the plain language of the 10th-
which include "states rights". Constitutional law is obviously different then human rights.

I haven't drilled down either -most of the sources I see say the anti-bullying rules/laws remain in effect
 
Jarod said:
In college at my frat house we had three mens rooms and a womans room... during big parties the women would usually outnumber the men.

We simply turned all bathrooms co-ed, it was never a problem.

And this was in ALABAMA!
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Another straw man. This time you're trying to equate college aged, drunk sorority girls with soccer moms and their daughters. No wonder you libs lost the election. lol
 
He is an ambulance chaser, there's probably shitloads of money in it for him.

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To piss off snowflakes, bottom feeders and racists
 
Jarod said:
In college at my frat house we had three mens rooms and a womans room... during big parties the women would usually outnumber the men.

We simply turned all bathrooms co-ed, it was never a problem.

And this was in ALABAMA!
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Bathrooms with locks on the doors I assume, huh ?

And you did all this without a proclamation from the federal government ?....
Without the president of the US telling you where your guests were allowed to take a piss ?

But now you seem to think we need that kind of proclamation, an actual law, that if not followed would entail losing federal funding to those
that refuse to obey.....

Do normal people have a right to expect and demand privacy when taking a shit....or do the desires of 'special' people override everyone else's rights ?
 
anatta said:
human rights only accrue to individuals - but federal powers are limited by the plain language of the 10th-
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Well, they were intended to be limited to those enumerated in the Constitution, but okay...

anatta said:
which include "states rights".
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No, states do not have rights and the tenth mentions only powers. The ninth mentions rights and applies to individuals or the people. Which is why I said the ninth and tenth support the claim that state's do not have rights, individuals do.

anatta said:
Constitutional law is obviously different then human rights.

I haven't drilled down either -most of the sources I see say the anti-bullying rules/laws remain in effect
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"Human rights" is your term. I don't really know what it means to you. Individual rights are the only kind that I recognize and the only kind the founders ever mentioned.
 
"When your legacy is written on a white board , it's easy to erase." - don't who said that.
Obama will be a parenthesis in history. - Charles Krauthammer
 
NOVA said:
Bathrooms with locks on the doors I assume, huh ?

And you did all this without a proclamation from the federal government ?....
Without the president of the US telling you where your guests were allowed to take a piss ?

But now you seem to think we need that kind of proclamation, an actual law, that if not followed would entail losing federal funding to those
that refuse to obey.....

Do normal people have a right to expect and demand privacy when taking a shit....or do the desires of 'special' people override everyone else's rights ?
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Locks? no....
 
Dick from the Internet said:
No, states do not have rights and the tenth mentions only powers. The ninth mentions rights and applies to individuals or the people. Which is why I said the ninth and tenth support the claim that state's do not have rights, individuals do.
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States have no rights, but the people retain many rights, some enumerated and most not enumerated.
 
Darth Omar said:
So if you go in the ladies room while some Redneck dude's little girl is in there, why shouldn't he bust your chops when you come out?
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I said a single occupant restroom.

What do you think the redneck will say when this "lady" walks into the multi occupant restroom with his little girl?

get
 
Jarod said:
Why should they be offended?
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Nice try to deflect, but it's not up to you to decide for them if they should be offended or not. So I'll ask you once more, don't you care about the very real possibility that young girls, and their parents, find your behavior offensive?
 
Milagro said:
We never have this debate in the UK, I wonder why?
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Because that's what politics have boiled down to in the U.S. The left and right are ready to go to war over petty BS and they both make petty bs into YUGE issues.
e.g., the keystone pipeline is a midget fart in a hurricane. Yet Obama claimed blocking it will change the weather.
 
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