Trayvon Toons

I think the problem is that there is just too much anger in America right now to allow any kind of logical discussion. And so in other words, fukk em, let them shoot each other until they start to feel the pain. No matter how fukking stupid an American is he will eventually feel pain.

And so superfreak, you're right! You've got it all figured out!
 
I think the problem is that there is just too much anger in America right now to allow any kind of logical discussion. And so in other words, fukk em, let them shoot each other until they start to feel the pain. No matter how fukking stupid an American is he will eventually feel pain.

And so superfreak, you're right! You've got it all figured out!

You seem to be the angry one here.
 
Why you here? WEre you starting to feel afraid that you would be left out of something productive on your forum? Are you worth anything to anybody? Are you trying to make it appear that you are?

Well, at first I was here to ask you for your source about gun violence rising, because the FBI says otherwise. But then you started spouting off an emotional diatribe about other people being angry and not wanting to debate, which is the highlight of irony.
 
So I'll just repeat: So let's try to bring it back to some kind of grounding in reality. The real issue is, when a violent reaction is encouraged by those sort of laws then that will more likely be the outcome. When it is not encouraged but is seen as an unlawful over reaction then it will less likely be the outcome. That is the substance I wish you to debate. If you feel that death is a due and justifiable outcome then that takes away any need to debate the issue further. We simply disagree. Is that the case?

No, the case is that you continue making unsubstantiated claims and then pretending that it is 'grounded in reality'. If that were the case, you would have REAL LIFE DATA to support your position.
 
I think the problem is that there is just too much anger in America right now to allow any kind of logical discussion. And so in other words, fukk em, let them shoot each other until they start to feel the pain. No matter how fukking stupid an American is he will eventually feel pain.

And so superfreak, you're right! You've got it all figured out!

There certainly is a lot of anger right now, mostly emanating from people such as yourself. Preaching as if you have a clue as to what you are discussing. When clearly you just want to go on an emotional rant without regard for substantiating your position.
 
Why you here? WEre you starting to feel afraid that you would be left out of something productive on your forum? Are you worth anything to anybody? Are you trying to make it appear that you are?

So you are saying that he is right. You are indeed very angry?
 
Try to think of this as something bigger than a debate. Understand that I don't have any reason to want to debate you. When people are encouraged to stand their ground rather than run away from violence, they will do just that. That results in more deaths. That's not debatable. Now the only question I ask of you is, do you care about reducing or eliminating some of those deaths?





If the life and death issue are of minor importance to you then we have nothing more to discuss. Please make that clear to me now.



If you wish to discuss it with me then you know my method. That's not going to change. If the deaths of more black people or white people or any colour of American is not a concern for you then say so. If the way you perceive the quality of those people justifies killing for you then just say so. But if human life is ore important to you then perhaps 'we' have something to discuss. If not then I won't waste any more time on it with you.






If you wish to say for instance: When a gun is present then there is no more likelihood of a death resulting out of a disagreement then do so. If that's your opinion then I will consider it illogical and discontinue this discussion.





I disagree but I won't pursue that directly as it just adds another side issue. I will say that any other president could have easily got away with it and it would have been seen in a different and more positive light.



So let's try to bring it back to some kind of grounding in reality. The real issue is, when a violent reaction is encouraged by those sort of laws then that will more likely be the outcome. When it is not encouraged but is seen as an unlawful over reaction then it will less likely be the outcome. That is the substance I wish you to debate. If you feel that death is a due and justifiable outcome then that takes away any need to debate the issue further. We simply disagree. Is that the case?

You're leaning so hard on generalizations, that you're about ready to tip over.

"When people are encouraged to stand their ground rather than run away from violence, they will do just that."

Do you know what criminals call those who run away?
PREY
And they're not being "encouraged", just because it's the law.
Are you encouraged to drive 130 mph, just because your speedometer goes that high?

"The real issue is, when a violent reaction is encouraged by those sort of laws then that will more likely be the outcome."

Once again; there is no encouragment.

"When it is not encouraged but is seen as an unlawful over reaction then it will less likely be the outcome."

Since when is defending your life, an "over reaction"?
It looks like you think a women being raped should just "go along", so things don't escalate to where she could be killed.
Or that people should just submit to criminals; because criminals never kill those they are victimizing.
OH-WAIT, criminals do kill those they are victimizing.
 
she is degrading her own people.


why is it that the VAST majority of black people don't agree with her?
 
she is degrading her own people.
why is it that the VAST majority of black people don't agree with her?

HOW is she degrading her 'own people'?

So you are saying all black people must think like each other on every topic and that YOU are the one that gets to decide which ones are correct and which are 'degrading their own people'?
 
I don't think the author of this pro-stand your ground article would appreciate you calling her a cracker. http://politichicks.tv/column/stand-your-ground-the-governments-attack-on-self-defense/

I KNEW that name sounded familiar!

There is no Deborah S. Ayer. She's a concoction of Victoria Jackson, the loony extremist right wing "comedienne" who couldn't hack it on SNL. She writes the bLog (Politichicks) for the teabaggers using fake names and stories.

How reputable!


PWND AGAIN, SUCKAHS!
 
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