The War in Ukraine

Clash Report

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NEW: Ukrainian SBU’s Operation “Web” Took 1.5 Years to PrepareUkraine’s SBU spent over 18 months planning the massive “Web” operation that struck 41 Russian strategic aircraft today.President Zelensky personally oversaw the mission, with SBU chief Vasyl Maliuk leading execution.Sources say the complex logistics involved smuggling FPV drones and mobile wooden cabins into Russia. The drones were hidden under remote-controlled roofs on trucks. When triggered, the roofs opened and kamikaze drones launched toward Russian bombers.SBU insiders stress that all operatives involved are already safely back in Ukraine. Any arrests by Russian authorities will likely be staged for domestic propaganda.
 
Russians With Attitude

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There's no doubt that this was a well-planned and well-executed operation by the Ukrainians. It's a black day for Russia's strategic aviation. At least four strat bombers will likely not return to service until the end of the SMO; they take forever to be repaired, if they even can be repaired (though I assume so, the Tu-95 is a hardy beast). That sucks. Is it a catastrophe that will cripple the Russian air campaign? It is not. Two of the attacks failed, one air base was successfully protected by EW and AD, another truck full of drones blew up before reaching its target. The enemy is not omnipotent, we are not helpless against his attacks, we just have to git gud. The enemy also made a mistake, by doing this not as a pure military operation, but a military-political one -- the day before the next round of negotiations. Someone told them that this would improve their position and soften up the Russian government. The opposite will be the case, of course. In any case, bombs will continue flying, missiles and drones will keep hitting targets, and, oh well, the Emperor has countless war-machines at his disposal, nobody's running out of anything. The war will continue to be fought and won by infantry. If strategic aviation could win modern wars, we would have won three years ago and the US wouldn't have run from the Red Sea. It is what it is.
 
Hawkeye10 said:
Scott said:
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Nordberg said:
The only person who could end the war in 24 hours is Putin. He could stop attacking a neutral country and go home.
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LIAR
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I wouldn't be too hard on him, I suspect he's just been conditioned to believe whatever the mainstream media tells him.
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The brainwashed are at the end of the day willing victims.
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I think the term 'brainwashed' has been overused, unlike people being conditioned. I also think conditioning is a more accurate picture, as no one is actually washing any brains. Why we believe lies is a complicated issue, as this article gets into:
neurolaunch.com

Psychology of Believing Lies: Why We Fall for Deception

Explore cognitive biases, emotional factors, and defense mechanisms that make us susceptible to lies, and learn strategies to enhance critical thinking.
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When you get to the point that people cant see what is right in front of them, which is where we are, brainwashing is the right term.
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The thing is, Ukraine generally isn't "right in front of" anyone in groups like this. From what I've been able to gather, most people here are American. A whole ocean and a lot of land besides separates them from Ukraine. So how do they hear about Ukraine? Mainly from mainstream media outlets, which are almost entirely suborned by the military industrial propaganda machine. They were probably taught from childhood to trust certain media outlets, just as many people are taught from childhood that certain religion is the right one. It can take a great deal of effort to move past these conditionings to see the lies inherent in their favoured media brands.
 
Hawkeye10 said:
Scott said:
Looks like things are escalating again -.-
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The War Pigs have conditioned themselves to believe that Russia never responds, and that they cant respond.....they are wrong on both counts...they live in their fantasies.

With the Taurus there is not any "What will Putin do"...this is a line in the sand for them, they have been very clear on this point, and Putin would get clobbered politically if he backs down....for any reason.
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You may well be right. I guess there's nothing we can do but wait and see what happens.
 
Hawkeye10 said:
moon said:
That was long after the coup when most pro-Russian Ukrainians- those that survived the onslaught by the Ukrainian neoNazis- had dug themselves into the Donbas and didn't vote. They've declared independence from the Zelenskies, of course- and been recognized by Russia and others.
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More importantly he campaigned on peace with Russia...that was one of the biggest things he talked about everywhere he went....by three days after the election ( or after he entered office....I cant remember) he was saying the exact opposite.
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I'm guessing you're referring to something specific he said 3 days after he won the election or entered office, but the bottom line is that Zelensky actually -did- try to make peace with Russia after he entered office. The problem is that the far right pressured him hard to stop, even going to so far as to say he'd be killed if he continued and the U.S. supported said nationalists. Well known journalist Aaron Mate gets into the details in the following article:
scheerpost.com

Siding With Ukraine’s Far-Right, US Sabotaged Zelensky’s Peace Mandate

In 2019, Zelensky was elected on an overwhelming mandate to make peace with Russia. As Stephen F. Cohen warned that year, the US chose to side with Ukraine’s far-right and fuel war.
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I would almost bet my house the the response will be massive......Putin and the Security Council have no choice.

RT and Sputnik are still silent.
 
Russians With Attitude

@RWApodcast


I didn’t believe the Ukraine war would happen — almost until it did. It was out of character for Putin and his circle. Limited ops? Sure. Chechnya, Georgia, Syria, Africa. All controlled, all contained. But a "full-scale" war with the second-largest post-Soviet state turned de facto NATO proxy?Russia’s leadership wasn’t actively preparing for that. Or if they were, they gambled it would unfold like every other limited intervention. In the end, their hand was forced. These were the same people who once floated joining NATO in the early 2000s, after all.Late-stage liberal Putinism has its perks: comfortable, modern, and nearly sanction-proof. A true 21st-century experience.But the cons are clear: soft-glove warfare, sparing enemy leadership, and burying failure.One thing’s certain now: there will be no peace, and no Ukraine. Putin may not have wanted a decisive victory — but now it’s the only way out.
 
Hawkeye10 said:
Russians With Attitude
@RWApodcast


I didn’t believe the Ukraine war would happen — almost until it did. It was out of character for Putin and his circle. Limited ops? Sure. Chechnya, Georgia, Syria, Africa. All controlled, all contained. But a "full-scale" war with the second-largest post-Soviet state turned de facto NATO proxy?Russia’s leadership wasn’t actively preparing for that. Or if they were, they gambled it would unfold like every other limited intervention. In the end, their hand was forced. These were the same people who once floated joining NATO in the early 2000s, after all.Late-stage liberal Putinism has its perks: comfortable, modern, and nearly sanction-proof. A true 21st-century experience.But the cons are clear: soft-glove warfare, sparing enemy leadership, and burying failure.One thing’s certain now: there will be no peace, and no Ukraine. Putin may not have wanted a decisive victory — but now it’s the only way out.
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I agree that Putin, and Russia more generally, needs a decisive victory in Ukraine. I also think it's clear that the longer this war goes on, the more of Ukraine Russia will need to make it a decisive victory.
 
Scott Ritter just posted an article on Ukraine's war with Russia that I thought was quite good. It can be seen here for now (I think they go behind a paywall after a day or 2):
scottritter.substack.com

Playing with Fire

Ukraine’s Operation Spiderweb has crossed the threshold when it comes to triggering a Russian nuclear response. How Russia and the United States respond could determine the fate of the world.
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Quoting the conclusion:
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Senators Graham and Blumenthal should be called out for sedition if their intervention in Ukraine was done to deliberately sabotage a peace process President Trump has said is central to his vision of American national security going forward.

But it is Trump himself who must decide the fate of the world.

In the coming hours we will undoubtedly hear from the Russian President about how Russia will respond to this existential provocation.

Trump, too, must respond.

By telling Graham and Blumenthal and their supporters to stand down regarding Russian sanctions.

By ordering NATO and the EU to cease and desist from continuing to provide military and financial support to Ukraine.

And by taking sides in the SMO.

Choose Ukraine and trigger a nuclear war.

Choose Russia and save the world.
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Scott said:
I agree that Putin, and Russia more generally, needs a decisive victory in Ukraine. I also think it's clear that the longer this war goes on, the more of Ukraine Russia will need to make it a decisive victory.
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This is a war against NATO but YA.....Ukraine is about to learn what war is.

The SMO is over.
 
Scott said:
Scott Ritter just posted an article on Ukraine's war with Russia that I thought was quite good. It can be seen here for now (I think they go behind a paywall after a day or 2):
scottritter.substack.com

Playing with Fire

Ukraine’s Operation Spiderweb has crossed the threshold when it comes to triggering a Russian nuclear response. How Russia and the United States respond could determine the fate of the world.
scottritter.substack.com scottritter.substack.com

Quoting the conclusion:
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Senators Graham and Blumenthal should be called out for sedition if their intervention in Ukraine was done to deliberately sabotage a peace process President Trump has said is central to his vision of American national security going forward.

But it is Trump himself who must decide the fate of the world.

In the coming hours we will undoubtedly hear from the Russian President about how Russia will respond to this existential provocation.

Trump, too, must respond.

By telling Graham and Blumenthal and their supporters to stand down regarding Russian sanctions.

By ordering NATO and the EU to cease and desist from continuing to provide military and financial support to Ukraine.

And by taking sides in the SMO.

Choose Ukraine and trigger a nuclear war.

Choose Russia and save the world.
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Ritter put that together amazingly fast.
 
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