The War in Ukraine

Hawkeye10 said:
re the fresh 100K the Russians have in the North ready to drive towards Kiev I am hearing two points:

1) The Russians sometimes do this as misdirection, it does not mean that the main effort of the summer offensive will be in the North

2) But it likely is, in retaliation for Kursk and to put the fear of God into the elites in Kiev....the elites are mostly now in Kiev (partying a lot of the time) and thats where most of the arms factories are, and whatever remains of the air defense in the effort to protect both....understanding that NATO air defense is not very good in the best of times, for instance the vaunted THAAD system just failed spectacularly in Israel.
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It's being reported that over 70,000 Ukrainians are dead in Kursk. I don't know what percent of that is western mercenaries. I heard 50 high ranking US officers.
 
goat said:
It's being reported that over 70,000 Ukrainians are dead in Kursk. I don't know what percent of that is western mercenaries. I heard 50 high ranking US officers.
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76K.....dead.....and so much Western gear was burned.....yet another NATO debacle in Ukraine.....it is one failure after another.
 
Hawkeye10 said:
76K.....dead.....and so much Western gear was burned.....yet another NATO debacle in Ukraine.....it is one failure after another.
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That number has to include a lot of Brits and Poles. Poland is negotiating with Russia to get some of its land back from Ukraine. There won't be much left of Ukraine when this is over.
 
goat said:
That number has to include a lot of Brits and Poles. Poland is negotiating with Russia to get some of its land back from Ukraine. There won't be much left of Ukraine when this is over.
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My grapevine is still not decided if it was the Brits or was it more the Americans who came up with this terrorist operation and implemented it....remember that the entire point was to get the power station, which was going to be used as a bargaining chip, weakening russia with power cut off and threat that there might be an "OOPS!" re radioactive contamination.

For damn sure the Ukrainian's had nothing to do with it other than being the meat for the meat grinders....which were fed for many months even after the operation had clearly failed by day four.
 
Hawkeye10 said:
My grapevine is still not decided if it was the Brits or was it more the Americans who came up with this terrorist operation and implemented it....remember that the entire point was to get the power station, which was going to be used as a bargaining chip, weakening russia with power cut off and threat that there might be an "OOPS!" re radioactive contamination.

For damn sure the Ukrainian's had nothing to do with it other than being the meat for the meat grinders....which were fed for many months even after the operation had clearly failed by day four.
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There are groups patrolling Ukraine streets to prevent anymore boys and men being shoved in a van and sent to the front line. The people are tired of what the US, nato, and Blackrock are doing to their country.
 
The meat grinders of Kursk were fed month after month for no military purpose, only to drive narrative wars was this done, only for the propaganda program.

The Imperial Empire is now exactly that Evil.

Buckle Up....This is going to hurt.
 
goat said:
There are groups patrolling Ukraine streets to prevent anymore boys and men being shoved in a van and sent to the front line. The people are tired of what the US, nato, and Blackrock are doing to their country.
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The cut of USAID and such did a lot.....the mind molding programs were long running and fully funded from Washington....the Swamp never imagined that Trump would do what he did there.

And the world is watching, there is no doubt now that America throws money and their chaos agents at other countries that they want to control and weaken.....that so many of the so call independent media outlets in places like Ukraine were/are clearly agents for the empire can now be seen by everyone who can still think for themselves.....how many of those people there still are we can argue about.
 
I have been hearing speculation that the kill ratio is now over 20 to 1.....NATO is getting slaughtered.....anyone sane and not Evil would admit defeat and stop this.

That is not us.
 
I never heard anyone claim that it was verified but at the end there was a story that almost 100 not Ukrainian NATO officers were trapped in the collapsing KURSK pocket, and that the Europeans and Americans were frantically trying get them out alive and not surrendered to the Russians.
 
Nordberg said:
Zelinsky was elected.
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That was long after the coup when most pro-Russian Ukrainians- those that survived the onslaught by the Ukrainian neoNazis- had dug themselves into the Donbas and didn't vote. They've declared independence from the Zelenskies, of course- and been recognized by Russia and others.
 
moon said:
That was long after the coup when most pro-Russian Ukrainians- those that survived the onslaught by the Ukrainian neoNazis- had dug themselves into the Donbas and didn't vote. They've declared independence from the Zelenskies, of course- and been recognized by Russia and others.
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More importantly he campaigned on peace with Russia...that was one of the biggest things he talked about everywhere he went....by three days after the election ( or after he entered office....I cant remember) he was saying the exact opposite.
 
These two are an acquired taste, but I have been enjoying their takes recently.....they do a great job of taking apart the Mind Molders:

 

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Ukraine Attacks Russian Strategic Nuclear Assets on Eve of Istanbul NegotiationsJust before planned talks in Istanbul, Ukraine has massively escalated the conflict by targeting key Russian strategic military sites.Using trucks loaded with FPV drones, Ukrainian forces struck several Russian airbases. Footage from Olenya Airbase shows multiple Tu-95 strategic bombers being hit. Belaya Airbase—yes, in Irkutsk—was also attacked. This base houses Tu-22M3 long-range bombers. In addition, there are reports of Dyagilevo Airbase in Ryazan coming under drone assault as well.The drones were reportedly launched from trucks positioned near the airfields. In the Olenya incident, some sources claim the truck driver may not have known what he was transporting until the drones began launching from the cargo area.One thing is undeniable: Ukraine deliberately attacked Russian nuclear strategic assets just before scheduled negotiations. There is no longer any point in engaging in talks with the Kiev regime. Let’s hope the Russian authorities fully understand that.And let this serve as a wake-up call—being far from the front line does not mean an asset is safe.
 
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The SBU promptly publishes details of Operation "Web".First, the SBU smuggled (or produced) FPV drones in Russia and hid them in mobile wooden houses.These were placed on trucks. At the right moment, the roofs of the houses opened remotely, and the drones rushed to hit Russian bombers.The photo shows exactly how the drones were prepared to attack military airfields.The idea was implemented by Vasily Malyuk his team.Even the media coverage of the operation was thought out and prepared in advance.
 
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ZELENSKY’S STRATEGY:1) Ukraine attacked Russian (nuclear) strategic aviation in Murmansk2) Bombed 3 trains, killing civilians.3) zelensky now asks for a ceasefire-> Negotiations are due to continue tomorrow in Istanbul.When Russia retaliates he will cry for help.
 
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