The U.S. needs a democracy overhaul. Here’s what Biden’s first step should be.

ThatOwlWoman said:
Make election day a holiday, but also encourage mail-in-voting as well. Make registering to vote a requirement for h.s. graduation or receiving your GED. Issue everyone a national ID card with photo. When voting by mail, include a copy of it with your ballot. I like the proportional allocation of EC votes but would not limit it to just two parties. Allow other parties whose candidates receive at least 5% of the total to be included. Censure and/or impeach current elected wonks who support contesting any election that has not been found to include fraud by the courts and election authorities.
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Require proof of citizenship to register to vote. What percent of the vote would be required to win a direct popular vote?
 
T. A. Gardner said:
No, not particularly, but I do know I can defend my position on it, unlike you who offers up nothing substantive in defense of your position.
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Don't we elect all our other officials by "mob rule"? The person with the most votes (or a majority) to win and all the voters in the election district (state, congressional district, county) vote on those officials.
 
Flash said:
Don't we elect all our other officials by "mob rule"? The person with the most votes (or a majority) to win and all the voters in the election district (state, congressional district, county) vote on those officials.
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Agree. I find his use of "mob rule" mystifying.
 
Flash said:
Don't we elect all our other officials by "mob rule"? The person with the most votes (or a majority) to win and all the voters in the election district (state, congressional district, county) vote on those officials.
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We do. Doesn't mean we should or have to though...
 
Barfly said:
Popular vote is just another means of electing a President. It's not mob rule.
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The Founders disagreed. John Adams called it the tyranny of the majority.

Over the past 200 years more than 700 proposals have been introduced in Congress to reform or eliminate the Electoral College. There have been more proposals for Constitutional amendments on changing the Electoral College than on any other subject.

None has been passed by Congress and sent to the States for ratification as a Constitutional amendment.


https://www.archives.gov/electoral-college/history#whyec
 
There should be proportional representation and NOTHING between the people's vote and the result.
 
Eagle_Eye said:
And you are truly a BIG STATE ELITIST! So you like the Idea of a few states dictating who the president shall be to the other states (That is mob rule). Our system is so broke that in over 240 years the winner didn't win the popular vote 5 repeat 5 whole times
And butt holes want to change a system that clearly works!
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There should never be a single instance of the less popular candidate being potus. You say 5 like that's acceptable? That's a more than 10% failure rate.
I'd be OK with one man one vote count them all up. After all, its a federal job. Why the hell should the states as states have any say at all?
The federal govt doesn't have electors to decide who a governor is. I am aware of EVRYTHING about the constitution as I say this,
but if you put on the veil of ignorance, you do not create an electoral college or proportional states in some states and winner take all in others,
or minimum electors...

There is nothing "elite" about opposing the underrepresentation of those big states on the basis of population. All men are created equal, right?
So why do we fuck with that and give Wyomans (sp- what do you call a denizen of the great state of wyoming anyway?) more say than Californians?


Which state is most over represented in the Electoral College? - ProProfs Discuss
 
Eagle_Eye said:
Isn't it funny how the Electoral College is a wonderful thing till your side loses then all of a sudden it becomes an antiquated system that needs to be replaced.
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It does not help the left. In the old days, the Repubs also tried to get the EC thrown out too. But changing the Constitution is difficult. When was the Dem party for it?
 
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