The solution for healthcare that will never be instituted

Even though the majority of multimillionaire insurance company heads vote Republican.
Hasn't your used by date passed?

the centrist dems aren't going to healthcare for all, they marginalize actual progressives who talk about it, calling them russian bots.

the two party system is just a convenient way to control elections.
 
The only solution for "healthcare" is for the damned us gov. To revert to the enumerated powers and the people are responsible for their own "healthcare". Natural selection will do it's job and I may pursue happiness without the damned of earth/ us gov. Usurping the power of life and death.

Wow are you sick.
 
I am actually quite healthy in mind, body, soul and spirit, without your damned "healthcare". You do project. You would die without "healthcare", no doubt.

What do you base your no doubt on? Oh, I know, right-wing hate and ignorance. You are ill. Seek help.
 
You dumb shit.

Thank you once again Nordi for posting the proof yet once again that you cannot offer a post without a juvenile insult, proving that civility isn’t your strong point and you strongly desire attempting to make somebody think you’re cute!

You are pushing states setting up their own insurance. 50 different plans are a buffet for healthcare providers to pick the best menu for their profits.

Well Nordi, unlike you, I and our founders had no problems with profits as long as the profiteers are subjected to a free market whereby “competition” is the order of the day. It’s called real capitalism the only tried and tested successful means of satisfactory results for human economy and the human condition.

50 differing states health insurance plans aren’t likely, but even if they were, the fact that folks can move from state to state And vote with their feet and in a competitive market places is bound to bring the best plans to the surface, the better politicians being reelected and the lesser successful sates researching the better state’s plans to find out what they’re doing right and what the researching states are doing wrong and WALA!!!! Eventually all 50 states with good/great healthcare insurance plans.


But oddly, in Canada, it worked. Tommy Douglas started a plan in Saskatchewan that was universal health care. The other provinces saw how much better it worked and Canada has national, universal healthcare.

Thank you Nordi for making my case for me!!! However America has 50 states and Canada’s Single Payer plan doesn’t prove that it’s the best kind of healthcare insurance. Some Canadians with financial means come to America and pay out of pocket for critical operations to keep from the wait times in Canada. But if you believe that Single Payer is the ticket, then why would you oppose a state from having the opportunity and political power to institute such?

In Canada, they were looking for a better way to serve the people. Here, we have health insurance companies and the medical establishment only interested in maxing profits.
Anyone with firing neurons knows our system sucks.

Well Nordi you and I both know that following the Constitution and in particular the 10th amendment will never happen in this country. The title of my OP makes note of that reality. Thus y’all BIG government lovers will surely continue along with federal unconstitutional meddling in our healthcare insurance business, following the lobbying dictates of BIG Pharma and the healthcare insurance industries that donate the most loot to the coffers of the crooked politicians in Washington of both parties. Eventually, in our ever more socialist conducted nation y’all BIG government lovers are gonna get your Single Payer FUCK UP. Happily, I’m not planning to be around to suffer that mad dash to incompetent bankruptcy!!!
 
Both the 9th and the 10th Amendments say nearly the same thing, which stresses their importance, and have been ignored by all three branches of FedCo for at least the last 110 years.

And that is exactly why I decided to make the OP. To show the folks the solution to good healthcare insurance for the nation is right before their eyes in that little ole Constitution. The founders were geniuses and they knew we, (the masses), weren't and never would be. So they laid it out in writing for us and we still fucked it up! Because BIG government needs to feed on BIG power, Constitution be damned!!!!!
 
No it's not.

This is your subjective opinion, informed by 40 years of Conservative bias that has turned your brain into mush and your mind against the institution of government.

What has the federal government done that's not awarded to the feds by the Constitution that's better than what the private market place couldn't have done better?
 
American healthcare is a world-known shambles. Get yourselves an NHS fast.

What does a European communist know about America's healthcare? Actually America's healthcare is some of the best on the globe, it's America's screwed up healthcare "INSURANCE" that's the problem ever since the federal government got involved in it unconstitutionally.
 
What does a European communist know about America's healthcare? Actually America's healthcare is some of the best on the globe, it's America's screwed up healthcare "INSURANCE" that's the problem ever since the federal government got involved in it unconstitutionally.

Results in America are at the bottom of the industrial countries. Life expectancy is among the lowest. The ability to access care is at the bottom. It is all a part of a nations healthcare system. Ours is the most expensive and the worst results. Healthcare should not be a for profit industry. Of cousre Pharm is a looting ,lying disaster too. We have millions declaring bankruptcy from health care costs.
 
What does a European communist know about America's healthcare? Actually America's healthcare is some of the best on the globe, it's America's screwed up healthcare "INSURANCE" that's the problem ever since the federal government got involved in it unconstitutionally.

States regulate their insurance markets right now, dipshit.
 
it's America's screwed up healthcare "INSURANCE" that's the problem ever since the federal government got involved in it unconstitutionally.

States regulate their own insurance markets right now, you fucking moron.
 
1. We could have paid off the debt by 2010 if you Conservatives hadn't cut taxes in 2001-3.
2. Where was all this concern when you added at least $2T to the debt with your Russia Tax Cuts from December 2017?
3. It's not "welfare" that adds to the debt, it's a deliberate reduction of revenue; like the Russia Tax Cut, that nearly doubled the deficit.
4. What happened to all the deficit concern you had during Obama that you tossed out the window the moment Trump became President?
5. I'm all about tax and spend, which means programs are largely deficit-neutral. "Tax and spend" by definition doesn't add to the deficit because you're taxing enough to pay for the expansion of programs.

You need to go look at some charts related to the national debt. I’ve ranted and raved about the national debt since Jimmy Carter and Reagan’s days. I don’t subscribe to any federal spending over and above federal receipts. I’ve decried Obama’s damned near doubling of the debt and trashed Trump for signing that outrageous deficit ridden budget he signed. Both duopoly parties are the culprit when it comes to the national debt.



Conservative economics only work when every variable is controlled inside a vacuum. How do the Feds "fuck up" private insurance, when private insurance is regulated by the states right now? Wouldn't you mean that the states fucked up private insurance, since each state is allowed to regulate it separately?

The states only regulate what little the fed allows them to regulate. The feeds control the Medicare/Medicaid loot and that’s the lion’s share. The feds control across state lines policies, individual policies are forbidden. Medicare and Medicaid closed up most of the private market low cost and free clinics. State and federal malpractice laws blew the rise in malpractice suits into orbit. Federal Medicare/Medicaid regulations created tons of paperwork, loads of extra paper pushers and loads of extra time for doctors and hospitals, Medicare and Medicaid aren’t sustainable at the current rate they’re growing they’re simply another BIG government fuckup.




You keep saying this, but you don't explain how?

In a single payer system, there are no private insurers who can corrupt the mechanism.

In a Single Payer system the entire system is operated by the most corrupt and incompetent bastatds in America, the federal government. The same bastards that created Obamacare and the same bastards that pay 1000$ for hammers and 1500$ for toilet seats. And you want to give them total control over your healthcare. That’s insane in my opinion.

Likewise, in a single payer system, the single payer holds the leverage and bargaining power over Pharma companies, and can use its leverage to negotiate for cheaper drugs...like what Medicare is prohibited from doing now thanks to Medicare Part-D. So explain how a single payer system would be "written" by drug lobbyists when the entire point of a single payer is to take on the drug companies by using its leverage as the single payer to lower costs?

You just don’t get it!!! BIG PHRMA & BIG INSURANCE OWN THE FEDS!!!!! They fill the campaign coffers of the feds. They offer the feds lobbying jobs when they retire from the government racket. Your describing Al Capone negotiating with Baby Face Nelson. “LEVERAGE?” Your shitting right????? They’ll leverage every dollar you have into they’re pockets!!!!! That’s another way the feds fucked up our healthcare system.
 
I’ve decried Obama’s damned near doubling of the debt and trashed Trump for signing that outrageous deficit ridden budget he signed

The budget he signed? What budget? Do you mean his tax cuts? Well, that's weird because you're here arguing for tax cuts, which grew the deficit.
 
What has the federal government done that's not awarded to the feds by the Constitution that's better than what the private market place couldn't have done better?

Damn near everything that has to do with money.

The private market place is interested in one thing...getting as much return for capital as possible.

Fuck land and labor...but especially FUCK LABOR.

The federal government can s good job as "the market place" in almost anything and everything...and in most situations, with the right guidance, can do a MUCH BETTER JOB for everyone.
 
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