The President Bows . . .
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oh look....more hypocrisy and dishonest attacks by dunceler....
why don't you try practicing what you preach and stop your incessant lying, its embarrassing
Your argument is that the same idiots that criticized Clinton for a bow are now criticizing Obama for a bow? You still know nothing about the Orient, and 200 years ago their knowledge of the customs of the Orient was equal to yours.
Has anybody told you that you seem obsessed with racism as an issue? Nobody introduces it into more posts than do you.
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zappasguitar
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Really??
Nobody thinks it's bad?
You might want to let SM know that, he seems to be under the impression it was a pretty big deal.
Because the Emperor does not bow. Until MacArthur the Emperor was a deity, the tradition of formality continues and Obama shows knowledge and respect for centuries old Japanese tradition. I suppose had he massaged the Emperor's shoulders, your side would be miraculously silent, but then again, he might have been wearing the wrong tie.
It is the stupidity of this phoney, contrived, Fox controversy that will truly inform the Japanese of who their friends really are.
I'm fairly new to this board, but I'm reasonably confident that the balance in your last sentence is a fairly recent developement. When did your "burns" begin? I would like to see back into the marvy bush days what your opinions were at that time in threads concerning Ministerial massages, lip kisses, Presidential bows and hand holding, etc.
As for the rest of it it, I have stated what I feel is the stupidity of the contrived Fox "controversy" and still wonder about the insecurity of those so enraged, even though the "controversy" could bring an incredulous reaction from the Japanese People wondering about our arrogance and...........stupidity.
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zappasguitar
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If he was going to bow, to show "respect", then he showed have bowed no lower then on an eye level with the Emperor and should have kept eye contact through the entire process.
We haven't "ceded" any authority; but it does make the US look subserviant.
Sorry yurt, somebody has...
All are stills, no chance of selective editing? By the way, you have expressed no opinion of the bows other Presidents since Ike except for Obama and Clinton. Why am I not surprised?
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zappasguitar
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Wrong, it's acceptable from the Right because, as everyone knows, you can't spell "hyperbole" without REP.
Which ones, the "LOL" or the agreement with ID's information about Japan?
They were much the same as here, it's bad protocol, and make him look foolish.
Even in the face of evidence that this isn't just a "fox" thing or even "new" you still refuse to see that it is simply a gaffe, and that it would be best to simply acknowledge and move on rather than trying to support it as if the man can do no wrong.
He needs a bit of protocol lessons, I hear he has the ability to learn which is unlike (according to some lefties) a previous President who seemed to continue the gaffes as a matter of practice. I'd prefer he get those lessons sooner rather than later and before he starts on the next nation so he can just stop prostrating before anybody with a title.
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because you're a biased lefty...
and you must of course assume its biased and of course continue to ingore that i have expressed opinions on the other bows....
since i've told you previously that i have given my opinion, i want to give you the benefit of the doubt you forgot, however, anymore claims that i have expressed no opinion by you will be entirely dishonest
and why i am not surprised that you ignore that it is not tradition to bow and even clintons half bow had both the dems and repubs outraged, yet you act like its only the right that is outraged over bows....
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since you've been honest with me....please reread my sentence and onceler's claim....you will find i never made the claim that onceler claims some mysterious poster made
he said "make"
i said "look"
do you see the difference? it is the same as the NYT describing clinton looking obeisant to the japanese emporer in 1994....it doesn't mean he made the US cede power or subservient, rather gave the look of it...
if what i said wasn't clear, that was my meaning
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How many posts on this issue? Commercials on this issue would be a great sign for Obama's chances at reelection!