The Case for Republican Economic Sabotage

Even the most rabid lefties I know can not explain how the tea party is responsible for the downgrade. It's bumper sticker mentality. Booga booga! Tea party.

Problem: too much debt.
Left solution: more debt
Right solution: more debt
Tea party solution: curb spending

Leftwing blame: TEA PARTY!!!

Simple. The Tea Party didn't want the debt ceiling raised, period, which meant inevitable default, attempting to eviscerate Obama. World financial markets hang on whether or not America defaults....that we came so close led to the downgrading. Not rocket science. Not Mr. Wizard, either. The debt and the deficit are two different entities. Duh.
 
we ARE patriots. the cheering was the big 'fuck you, we told you so' dance. we TOLD you what would happen if you raised the debt ceiling and increased spending. you got what you wanted and now are trying to blame the TEA patriots for YOUR failures.

the ones guilty of economic treason are you and the GOP.

The debt ceiling being raised didn't cause the downgrade, you moron. The fact that it took the 11th hour to do it, did. We've seemingly never had a problem raising the debt ceiling until now? Why is that? I'll tell you...it's because there is a black man in the White House, and we can't have that now, can we?
 
How and why these idiot posters pick ID" s that are the exact opposites of who and what they are, is beyond me.
 
The debt ceiling being raised didn't cause the downgrade, you moron. The fact that it took the 11th hour to do it, did. We've seemingly never had a problem raising the debt ceiling until now? Why is that? I'll tell you...it's because there is a black man in the White House, and we can't have that now, can we?

you're retarded, socially and economically.
 
you could look at your post above. especially since TEA party patriots are for less government and neo-cons were all for big brother government.

http://www.federalobserver.com/2010...-republican-party-the-return-of-the-neo-cons/

The Tea Party vs. the Republican Party: The Return of the Neo-Cons
Posted by: The Publisher on: November 14 2010 • Categorized in: Dial 'M' for McCutchen
The Tea Party folks say they are going to take back our country, a former constitutional republic no, they ain’t!

Here are some of the reasons why.

1. Newt Gingrich: Newty is now an unofficial candidate for the presidency of the United States. As Speaker of the House and author of the “Contract with America”, it only took 60 days for he and his merry band to violate the “Contract”. Gingrich voted to create the U.S. Department of Education, voted to give Communist China “Most favored Nation” status, he was instrumental in the passage of NAFTA and GATT. He has voted for billions in foreign aid. This week in an appearance on Mexican TV Univision Gingrich stated he supported amnesty. Gingrich is one of the principles in the neoconservative movement which is poised to take back control of the Republican party and the federal government. Simply put, neoconservativism follows Leo Straus’ “eternal war for eternal peace”, i.e. war forever.

2. So. Carolina Senator Lindsay Graham for amnesty and military expansion.

3. Sarah Palin: neoconservative warmonger, Israel firster with Jewish roots.

4. Former Ark. Gov. Mike Huckabee, potential candidate for the presidency. Through nefarious means Huckabee instigated the creation of a Mexican Consulate in Little Rock without the knowledge of the state legislature and Arkansas citizens. The Consulate dispenses Matricula Consular cards for Illegals in 4 states. ICE, the Ark. State police, & other policing agencies accept this criminal practice as documentation, allowing illegal Mexicans and OTM’s to obtain any number of taxpayer supported welfare programs. For more information regarding the traitorous, lying Huckabee log onto Arkansas Freedom.com and read Arkansas’ Own Trail of Tears, among many other articles.

5. Senator John McCain: Neoconservative warmonger favors amnesty, and a host of other constitutional violations.

6. Former Congressman Dick Armey and Grover Norquist, both neoconservatives, are coopting, exploiting and looting the Tea Party movement.

7. Congressman (10 yrs) John Boozman, soon to be elected Ark. U.S. senator, supported all of the criminal measures introduced by former president George W. Bush. Supported the undeclared, criminal Iraqi war and continues to support an extension of the Iraqi war, i.e. Afghanistan, Pakistan and in the wings, Iran. Voted for the unconstitutional Patriot Acts I & II, Military Commissions Act, rendition (torture), the dissolution of Posse Commitatus and Habeus Corpus, the Homegrown Terrorism Act, etc., etc. For detailed factual analysis of Boozman’s sordid congressional record go to www.arkansasfreedom.com to read “Is John Boozman the man you think he is?” Boozman’s political ads never speak to critical issues involving this former republic. He rambles about vanilla, meaningless sound bites like “I’ll fight for Arkansas values”. The only values he has ever fought for are 2 free seats in military jets and pay vouchers to encompass the globe. In 2008 he spent 39 days in D.C. The biggest danger in electing Boozman is the fact he is an advocate of NATO, the globe’s policing army.

8. George W. Bush, world-class criminal invaded Iraq based on wholesale lies provided “faux” General Colin Powell, Donald Rumsfeld, Paul Wolfowitz, Douglas Feith, Cheney, et al while destroying the Constitution (as he said it’s “just a G-D piece of paper”)

9. Former V.P. Dick Cheney: an evil, full-blown warmongering neoconservative.

10. Mitt Romney: announced candidate for U.S. president a neoconservative. Instituted socialized medicine in Massachusetts, which has now created a state debt of $56 billion.

11. Rudy Giuliani: One of the principle architects of the Trans-Texas Corridor designed to eliminate borders of the U.S. between Mexico and Canada. He and the Spanish company Cintra own the contract rights for the “Corridor” and all the interstate toll roads in Illinois. (Illinois just keeps poppin’ up, don’t it?)

12. Kentucky Republican Senator Mitch McConnell: Married to Elaine Chao, daughter of the owner of Chinese Foremost Shipping Company whose principal client is Communist owned Chinese Overseas Shipping Company (COSCO). Chao’s family was close to Jiang Zemin, former General Secretary of the Communist Party & President of the Peoples State of China. McConnell has received huge donations from Chinese shipping and from Hank Greenberg, CEO of AIG (which received billions in bailout money) doing business with China.

13. Congressman Mike Ross (D-AR): Ross is the reason the U.S. is coming under the control of Obamacare. Ross was the vote that allowed Obamacare to come out of committee. For his effort he was awarded $175 million to play with in his district. The point of bringing a democrat is this: Ross has a Republican challenger named Beth Anne Rankin, a former Miss Arkansas, who worked for former Gov. Huckabee. Rankin and the Republican part has had every chance to run ads regarding Ross’s betrayal and to my knowledge has not even alluded to Ross’ despicable act.

14. Now Democrat Gov. Mike Beebe is added to the mix simply because he has a 70% approval rating, which means there may be Tea Partiers supporting the 35 yr ward of the taxpayers. His only public acclaim is a broad smile and he reduced the grocery tax by 1 penny, but you should see him operate in the Back Room. The state legislature is on its knees. Boobus Arkanacus falls prey once again. Emotion vs. Facts.

This list could gone on until Monday afternoon, but surely you get the idea that “taking back” the former American Republic, now a 3rd World multicultural gulag will not be done by the Republican party. For our nation to survive, all incumbents must be dispatched and the dismantling begun.

It is said that “Ignorance is Bliss”. One can easily conclude that there are tons of bliss floating around in our once proud Republic.

October 30, 2010

P.S. If the Republicans had any moral or constitutional courage they would demand that faux President Obama produce his authentic birth certificate and school records!

NO YOU AIN’T: Part 2, The Return of the Neo-Cons
Tea Partiers, bless their well-meaning souls, exclaim “We’re taking back our Republic”…..No You Ain’t.

A brief overview of basic politics before the nuts and bolts are examined.

Tea Partiers were successful in rooting out a substantial number of Marxist/Socialists flying the Democrat banner, but failed miserably by not rooting out neoconservative elitist, establishment Republicans who are in a word, more dangerous than the Democrat/Socialists. Are the Tea Partiers not aware that the neoconservative battle cry is “eternal war for eternal peace”, i.e. war forever? Observe.

Five days after the national election, Nov. 7, 2010, Bibi Netanyahu, strong-arm president of the little postage stamp of terror, i.e. Israel, flanked by members of AIPAC, ADL, & a number of other Israeli-firsters, made his appearance in D.C. for some of the following reasons:

1. To ensure that the spineless & corrupt sitting American government continues to grease the palms of the Israelis to the tune of $15 billion or more of U.S. tax money per year. Money we ain’t got.

2. To make sure the newbie Repubs receive their Zionist Israeli marching orders, i.e. never criticize Israel and support all of their nefarious fiscal & political schemes. Question: Will the Israeli vaccine take on the new Repubs? Yes.

3. To continue to foment undeclared U.S. butchery in the Mid-East for Israeli interests and oil. (Why should American taxpayers subsidize any foreign country, and in this case Israel, who has infiltrated the highest echelons of the U.S. government influencing foreign policy, spying, while refusing to sign the Geneva Accords, steals & sells our most advanced technologies, attacked the USS Liberty, involved in genocide of the Palestinians not only in their homeland, but in Gaza. Who’s to say Israel is our friend?)

Tea Partiers claim they are dedicated to terminating the vulgar spending by the federal government, along with a host of other unconstitutional activities. Why isn’t there a hue & cry by Republicans to demand that funding for the undeclared wars and the military/industrial complex be slashed, troops brought home globally, and meaningful foreign relations negotiations be instituted? Could it be that the illegal & unconstitutional preemptive wars serve as a false “stimulus package”? Do Tea Partiers not understand that the Iraqi carnage, based on lies and more lies, instituted and orchestrated by Geo. Bush and continued by Obama, was in part to jumpstart the American economy? Apparently not. Where is the logic or morality in wiping out whole countries because of what a few individuals were alleged to do? The so-called war on “terrorism” is a murdering hoax.

Now comes another loud-mouthed, chest-thumping Neocon calling for the destruction of Iran, S.C. Senator Lindsay Graham. According to my count we are already involved in at least 4 wars Iraq (no, it ain’t over), Afghanistan, Pakistan, and Yemen. Be reminded that the president of Iran has formally requested an official meeting on 3 occasions…2 with Bush & one with Obama and all 3 were snubbed. Senator Graham can only be described as a warmongering psychopath, along with a large number of Republicans who are dead-set on continuing these enemy-making, bloody no-win undeclared wars in their quest for global hegemony. Why do many who understand the corruption and subterfuge in the rest of government not apply that same logic to phony “wars on terrorism” false flags and propagandized information? So you see, Tea Partiers you only addressed ½ the equation. At the conclusion of this article, some of the traitorous neoconservative Republicans will be named. The neocons are busily taking back the Republican Party, e.g. Gingrich, McCain, Palin, Huckabee, Blackburn, Bachman, Fox News, and a host of others. Blackburn recently opined “you don’t cut defense and you don’t cut Homeland Security” (what homeland security–open borders and less than 1% of imports are inspected?)…Bachman said essentially the same thing on Fox News.

Millions of Americans out of work each of you know this, accompanied by years of unemployment checks, food stamps, the mortgage debacle….we are talking about 45 million Americans out of work and suffering from their newly acquired 3rd World status compliments of the thugs who inhabit D.C., Democrats, Republicans and bureaucrats. Foolishly, Americans continue to reelect the same office holders decade after decade thereby suppressing new ideas and each of these incumbents think of themselves as Royalty, e.g. Republican Alaskan Senator Lisa Murkowski a Republican Socialist who was defeated in a Republican primary and refused to accept the will of the people, remember that Murkowski first inherited her royalty status from her senator father.

With the stated 45 million unemployed Americans plus the 25-35 million illegals roosting in our homeland, not a word emanating from Bachman, Blackburn, & the remainder of the self-serving Republican legislative midgets regarding the economic, political & cultural debauchery inflicted on our society by the invaders.

Not one word from Republicans regarding the outrageous federal government suing the state of Arizona for passing legislation mirroring federal legislation in order to protect themselves from the illegl Mexican & OTM invasion which the federal government is constitutionally obligated to effectuate. This failure can only be construed treasonous.

Not one congressional or senatorial campaign addressed the multiple crises our country is infected with and certainly no projected solutions. Citizens were peppered with catfight commercials, “we’re for values”, and all that tripe. 45 million Americans unemployed and the real number is 17% unemployment, our industrial base shipped abroad, President Obama currently in India cutting a deal to increase H1-B visas and bringing about totalization (paying social security to Indian nationals living here and/or in India), and peddling our only exportable product the machinery of war. Why have we not heard the new Republicans stating “we will seal our national borders and deport the 25-35 illegal Mexican nesters and OTM’s? This bunch of criminals are killing our society, reducing it to a marginal 3rd World encampment. So how do you deport? Immediately enforce 8 USC, particularly the aiding and abetting section by arresting some of the likes of Tyson’s, Simmons, principals in Pilgrim’s Pride, Wal-Mart, etc. etc. and the illegals will self-deport. Establishment Republicans are for Amnesty because it benefits their campaign donors.

Entering our republic yearly are an estimated 2-5 million foreign nationals, legals, illegals, exiles, refugees, lotteries, H1-B visas, and so on…all 3rd Worlders, by design prepped for massive entitlements. Our nation in the throes of depression, i.e. devalued currency, wars, unemployment, entitlements, ad infinitum, and the criminal slugs who inhabit D.C. refuse to seal our borders and arrest & deport violators of federal law 8 USC…condemning the U.S. to 3rd World status.

Entitlements are “sacred” to the Democrats and numbers of Republicans. Entitlements create the aura of “Bread & Circuses”, keeping the lazy electorate mesmerized, dumb & happy. Think Roman Empire.

Do any of the elected ever discuss the need to cut unfair, unconstitutional entitlements, i.e. quotas, set-asides, affirmative action, housing, food, Medicaid, ad infinitum? Why not?

The sordid state of public education, i.e. public schools and the billions spent on that dark black hole, including those calling themselves educators, are forbidden territories not be discussed, e.g. intentionally dumbing down the students, inflating grades, propagandizing curricula, emphasis on 3rd World culture, while distorting the history of Western civilization.

Our once preeminent republic is morally, economically, and politically bankrupt and all the “faith, hope, & charity” and prayers are not going to save the Founders’ dream. Unless American’s ignorance, control of emotions and acceptance of political correctness return to reality, objectivity, dedication, rationality, individualism and a quest for a liberty loving political awakening in the very near term, our republic has no chance for survival.

It has been said and said again, ignorance is bliss and we have tons of bliss floating around. You see Tea Partiers, you just didn’t clean out your own house. Here’s a list of so-called Republicans who just want to kill, kill, kill and it is unfortunate that numerous religions have adopted the Kill mantra. To name a few: Boozman (NATO cheerleader), Burton, Blunt, Brownback, Graham. Hatch, Hutchison, Inhofe, Lugar, McCain, McConnell, Shelby, Kyl, and on & on.

Internationally, most all peoples want to live their lives independently, free from corrupt and criminal governmental practices and in this case I speak specifically of the United States of America. Bring the U.S. globalist armies home and engage in diplomatic debate, as directed by George Washington. Harness Wall Street, Wal-Mart, and the Military/Industrial complex, remove ourselves from the United Nations, & NATO. Repeal the Federal Reserve Act (in view of the financial condition of the U.S. on its own terms the Federal Reserve is printing $600 billion out of thin air), cease subsidizing Wall Street, Wal-Mart, the industrial/military complex, and any other individual or groups who are sucking the life’s blood out of the U.S.

There appears to be an all-out effort to destroy Western influence throughout the world. In the case of the U.S. it is evident that Western influences culture, heritage, sovereignty cannot prevail if the legal and illegal 3rd World, multicultural invasion is not stopped post haste. Can the new wave of Republicans stand up to the entrenched establishment Republicans, oligarchs & Israeli interests….and is there a true desire to do so?

P.S. Are the Tea Partiers mean enough, tough enough, experienced enough, savvy enough to recognize and cross sabers with clever infiltrators posing as their leaders & friends?

November 12, 2010


Ooops. Apparently I was "misinformed". The Neo-Cons will see you null and void, apparently. LOL.

Seems you've been pawns, all the long...and they don't need you, nor want you anymore. How does it feel to "be played"? LOL
 
no, little girl, we would not have defaulted. We'd have had to cut more spending which is what was needed.

then why are you here?

Moody's suggests eliminating debt ceiling
07/18/11

The United States should eliminate the debt ceiling altogether, Moody's said in a Monday report.

"We would reduce our assessment of event risk if the government changed its framework for managing government debt to lessen or eliminate that uncertainty," Moody's analyst Steven Hess wrote in the report, first reported by Reuters.

Last week, Moody's warned it would cut the AAA credit rating held by the United States if the government can't cover its debts and if congressional negotiators and the White House fail to raise the $14.3 trillion debt limit by Aug. 2. Standard & Poor's issued a similar warning last week.

Moody's, which noted that the debt limit hadn't done much to stop rising government obligations, said it has always considered the risk of a U.S. default to be very low because Congress has regularly raised the debt ceiling, usually on a bipartisan basis and without much controversy.

The Hill


fuck moodys and their tax and spend agenda.

SO........you reject Moody's assertion: it has always considered the risk of a U.S. default to be very low because Congress has regularly raised the debt ceiling, usually on a bipartisan basis and without much controversy.

There are no adult FACTS that penetrate your childish ignorant dogma. Like the FACTS:

* Deficit reduction in a slow growth high-unemployment economy has only ever caused the economy to recede.

* deficit has been slowly shrinking as modest growth has boosted revenues -- a reality that proves the point that stimulus, leading to increased economic prosperity, leads to more tax revenue and, therefore, deficit reduction, even when spending remains higher than normal.

* President Obama and the Democrats reduced the deficit by $120 billion in their first fiscal year, down from the last Bush fiscal year.

* the stimulus absolutely worked in relation to its dollar value and the size of recession itself, which turned out to be far deeper than was known at the time. As soon as the stimulus was signed -- almost to the day -- the stock market began to steadily rise, GDP turned around and, within a few quarters, was growing again and job losses began to be erased, with fewer each month. Had the stimulus been larger, the positive effects would have obviously reflected that. But once the money began to run out and the demands for austerity began to be taken seriously, growth and job creation slowed.

* the Affordable Care Act, actually reduces the deficit, according to the Congressional Budget Office.
 
i love how bfgrn blames everything on the gop or tea party. dems are not responsible for anything.

That's not true.

* President Obama and the Democrats reduced the deficit by $120 billion in their first fiscal year, down from the last Bush fiscal year.

* the Affordable Care Act, actually reduces the deficit, according to the Congressional Budget Office.
 
SO........you reject Moody's assertion: it has always considered the risk of a U.S. default to be very low because Congress has regularly raised the debt ceiling, usually on a bipartisan basis and without much controversy.

There are no adult FACTS that penetrate your childish ignorant dogma. Like the FACTS:

* Deficit reduction in a slow growth high-unemployment economy has only ever caused the economy to recede.

* deficit has been slowly shrinking as modest growth has boosted revenues -- a reality that proves the point that stimulus, leading to increased economic prosperity, leads to more tax revenue and, therefore, deficit reduction, even when spending remains higher than normal.

* President Obama and the Democrats reduced the deficit by $120 billion in their first fiscal year, down from the last Bush fiscal year.

* the stimulus absolutely worked in relation to its dollar value and the size of recession itself, which turned out to be far deeper than was known at the time. As soon as the stimulus was signed -- almost to the day -- the stock market began to steadily rise, GDP turned around and, within a few quarters, was growing again and job losses began to be erased, with fewer each month. Had the stimulus been larger, the positive effects would have obviously reflected that. But once the money began to run out and the demands for austerity began to be taken seriously, growth and job creation slowed.

* the Affordable Care Act, actually reduces the deficit, according to the Congressional Budget Office.

everything you posted is political dribble meant to assuage your personal sensibilities. in short, it's crap, but glad you like the taste of it.
 
That's not true.

* President Obama and the Democrats reduced the deficit by $120 billion in their first fiscal year, down from the last Bush fiscal year.

Wrong. Not even close. Bush's last deficit was $1 Trillion.... a number Obama has not gotten under.

* the Affordable Care Act, actually reduces the deficit, according to the Congressional Budget Office.

Only a complete retard would believe that it actually reduces deficits. The CBO score was based on all the smoke and mirrors that the Dems put into that monstrosity. No chance in hell that will reduce deficits in the real world.
 
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