The abortion issue: one solution

Originally Posted by Taichiliberal
Let me dumb it down for you......if your local hospital has the doctors and facilities that perform abortions, and the hospital is in receipt of State funding of any kind....YOU pay State taxes. If your State receives federal funding for infrastructure, and the same hospital benefits from that....YOU pay Federal taxes.

Are you really that out-of-touch to think that EVERY abortion performed by hospitals and clinics since 1973 were done via private donations? Or maybe you're not aware of what a plethora of other "Pro-lifers" are saying across the country regarding their tax dollars and abortions? Here's a homework assignment for you: do a google search by entering "no tax dollars for abortion"....should be an eye opener for ya! Next time you step up to the plate, bunky.....remember to bring a bat!
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PostmodernProphet said:
????......I fail to see the relevance to the argument......1) you started a thread trying to create a dodge to the anti-abortion position.....2) you made the mistake of thinking the argument was about money.....3) you have been corrected......4) you're left with nothing more than your passion for killing unborn children, which I oppose.....
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You "fail to see the relevence" because you are a willfully ignorant coward incapable of acknowledging FACTS that disprove your assertions...as we see here in the following:

1) You lie...My opening post was quite clear....I created an option for those who have complained over the years of their tax dollars being used towards facilitating abortions.

2) I didn't create this point of contention....it has at least a 25 year history by anti-abortion activist originating that point of contention. I merely offered a viable option/solution to that particular complaint that for reasons yet to explained has folk like you throwing a hissy fit.

3) Really? By who? How? To date, people have vented their moral outrage but have yet to logically and factually explain why they won't accept a solution to their complaint.

4) Once again, you babble inane propaganda driven slander....a dodge by you to avoid admitting that I schooled you on how tax dollars make their way to hospitals that facilitate abortions, and how the anti-abortion movement has a history of complaints/activism against such. This, along with post #118 pretty much exposes you for the intellectually bankrupt joker that you are.
 
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Taichiliberal said:
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1) You lie...My opening post was quite clear. I created an option for those who have complained over the years of their tax dollars being used towards facilitating abortions.
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and tax dollars would still be used to kill children....nothing would change...

2) I didn't create this point of contention....it has at least a 25 year history by anti-abortion activist originating that point of contention. I merely offered a viable option/solution to that particular complaint that for reasons yet to explained has folk like you throwing a hissy fit.
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you personally?....true....but other brain fucked liberals just like you......

3) Really? By who? How? To date, people have vented their moral outrage but have yet to logically and factually explain why they won't accept a solution to their complaint.
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by me....pointing out to you that you have completely missed the true objection to abortion....

4) Once again, you babble inane propaganda driven slander....a dodge by you to avoid admitting that I schooled you on how tax dollars make their way to hospitals that facilitate abortions, and how the anti-abortion movement has a history of complaints/activism against such. This, along with post #118 pretty much exposes you for the intellectually bankrupt joker that you are.
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no, once I again I have pointed out why your arguments are a total waste of time....post #118 does nothing more than demonstrate you are a total fool.....
 
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Originally Posted by Taichiliberal
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1) You lie...My opening post was quite clear. I created an option for those who have complained over the years of their tax dollars being used towards facilitating abortions.
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Originally Posted by Post Modern Prophet
and tax dollars would still be used to kill children....nothing would change...
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Ahhh, but YOU would NOT have YOUR tax dollars used to, in your hyperbole "kill children".....that is one of the major complaints that anti-abortionist have used for years...hell, it's one of the complaints about the health care reform being currently proposed. THAT would be a change, whether you acknowledge it or not. If EVERY anti-abortionist took my proposed option, That means LESS federal money, which would result in dependency on more private donations...which would mean less abortion facilities available (in theory anyway).


Originally Posted by Taichiliberal
2) I didn't create this point of contention....it has at least a 25 year history by anti-abortion activist originating that point of contention. I merely offered a viable option/solution to that particular complaint that for reasons yet to explained has folk like you throwing a hissy fit.
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Originally Posted by Post Modern Prophet
you personally?....true....but other brain fucked liberals just like you......
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Wipe the spittle from your screen, calm down, and try again to post a coherent, complete sentence in your response.


Originally Posted by Taichiliberal
3) Really? By who? How? To date, people have vented their moral outrage but have yet to logically and factually explain why they won't accept a solution to their complaint.
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Originally Posted by Post Modern Prophet
by me....pointing out to you that you have completely missed the true objection to abortion....
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Your opinion and a Metro card will only get you on the bus...nothing more. So unless you have some valid, official documents/sources to back up your claim, you're just blowing smoke.


Originally Posted by Taichiliberal
4) Once again, you babble inane propaganda driven slander....a dodge by you to avoid admitting that I schooled you on how tax dollars make their way to hospitals that facilitate abortions, and how the anti-abortion movement has a history of complaints/activism against such. This, along with post #118 pretty much exposes you for the intellectually bankrupt joker that you are.
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no, once I again I have pointed out why your arguments are a total waste of time....post #118 does nothing more than demonstrate you are a total fool.....

Translation: the Post Modern Fool cannot logically or factually respond to what has been put to him, nor acknowledge how I exposed his ignorance regarding the relationship of taxes to abortion, so he babbles insults, supposition and conjecture and repetitive mantra laden opinion instead.
 
Taichiliberal said:
Ahhh, but YOU would NOT have YOUR tax dollars used to, in your hyperbole "kill children"
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so what?....I don't want YOUR tax dollars used to kill children either....

that is one of the major complaints that anti-abortionist have used for years
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as I have pointed out several times, you are ignorant about our complaints....what we have been saying for years is that it is wrong kill children....
 
Originally Posted by Taichiliberal
Ahhh, but YOU would NOT have YOUR tax dollars used to, in your hyperbole "kill children"
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PostmodernProphet said:
so what?....I don't want YOUR tax dollars used to kill children either....

Well bunky, until Roe vs. Wade gets overturned, you're just going to have to muddle through life not getting your way on that one! But by your answer I see that it's really not about you taking any opportunity NOT to enable abortion, but it's about your warped sense of divine righteousness to control others. Get over yourself butch, because you sure as shit don't give a damn about the women in this situation, and you sure as hell cannot supply a home for the tens of thousands of unwanted kids in foster care in America.

that is one of the major complaints that anti-abortionist have used for years
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as I have pointed out several times, you are ignorant about our complaints....what we have been saying for years is that it is wrong kill children....
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That's YOUR story, toodles. As I previously DOCUMENTED, there has been a complaint about tax dollars used for abortions from various individuals and groups for YEARS. That you deny the existence of such is of no consequence.

As I've said before, only a Post Modern Fool stubbornly denies the reality of valid, documented historical fact and then tries to substitute his supposition and conjecture. But you just have the last word doing that...bless your deluded little heart. :cof1:
 
Most libertarians reject to tax dollars being spent on abortions, regardless of whether they are morally opposed to abortion or not. Don't pretend there isn't a distinction.
 
but it's about your warped sense of divine righteousness to control others
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and I suppose the right to kill isn't a right to control?.....now THAT is warped.....

it's really not about you taking any opportunity NOT to enable abortion
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lol...are you going to pretend that your attempt to make SOME federal money available to finance abortion wasn't about taking an opportunity to enable abortion?.......
 
Taichiliberal wrote:
but it's about your warped sense of divine righteousness to control others
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PMP wrote: and I suppose the right to kill isn't a right to control?.....now THAT is warped.....

Typical dodge by you.....you're never accoutable for your actions, it's always the burden of others to justify what you do or want to do. Sorry, but your hyperbole won't fly here. According to jokers like you, the morning after pill is "killing"....and by any medical science known, that attitude is just plain stupid. Like Isaid before, that you REFUSE to take an option that would REMOVE YOU from the equation of a woman and her physician regarding abortion speaks volumes to your bloated ego of controlling others that you don't a damn about, nor can you be responsible for (or want to beyond a certain economic limit).


Taichiliberal wrote:
it's really not about you taking any opportunity NOT to enable abortion
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PMP wrote: lol...are you going to pretend that your attempt to make SOME federal money available to finance abortion wasn't about taking an opportunity to enable abortion?.......

First, I had to school you on just how state or federal tax dollars can support abortion. Now it seems I have to teach you basic reading comprehension. My proposal was giving the option to REMOVE you and those who think like you from ANY financial support for abortion. ABORTION IS ALREADY LEGAL, YOU chucklehead! My proposal does not "enable" what already exists and functions.
 
PostmodernProphet said:
you know, that may be why I am advocating a change, ya think?....I want to make abortion illegal....you want to provide funding for it....perhaps that's why I don't find your idea acceptable.....ya think?......
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:palm: You know, you're insipid stubborness borderlines a lack of intelligence that deprives you of grade school reading comprehension. But hope springs eternal, so let me dumb it down further for you:

1. My proposal does NOTHING to impede your right to protest and lobby against abortion.

2. My proposal does NOT "fund" abortion in any shape, form or fashion...in fact, it would LESSEN any state or federal funding being used for abortion by giving YOU the option to WITHHOLD YOUR TAX DOLLARS FROM SUCH.

3. You have YET to logically explain WHY you do not find my proposal acceptable. Given that it's highly unlikely that Roe vs. Wade will be overturned in your lifetime, one would think that the logical next step would be to withhold your tax dollars from it.
 
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T&A said:
You said that people who are morally outraged by abortion don't want it federally funded. I pointed out that libertarians oppose funding for a different reason.


BTW, didn't the Hyde Amendment already ban federal funding???
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Libertarians can be pro-choice or anti-abortion too. If they are pro-choice, then they are likely to make an exception to the Party doctrines (as Libertarians are prone to do, IMHO). As for the Hyde Amendment:

http://www.aclu.org/reproductive-freedom/public-funding-abortion
 
I don't think ghestspo republicans have any rights to tell woman what to do. They should stick to what they are good at. Toe tapping
 
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