DamnYankee
Loyal to the end
Libby: *crickets chirping*
The abortion issue: one solution
- Thread starter Taichiliberal
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USFREEDOM911
MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN
Didn't you know that Republicans are into Italian Cooking??
If they are pro-choice they simply don't want the government invading another personal decision. This does not mean that they would support tax dollars being spent on such a thing. It would be a rare Libertarian that thought this would be the place the government needed to start forcing others on...
DamnYankee
Loyal to the end
Keep your laws off my body.
Taichiliberal
Shaken, not stirred!
And they're full of it! They consistently contradict in action what their "philosophy" dictates. Bottom line: if you are pro-choice Libertarian, then you have to contradict your "economic philosophy" if you are to provide the facilities to safely perform abortions and educate folk about them along with other choices regarding contraception, etc.
Actually, my proposal would be right up the alley in a positive way of what you are describing here....unless you're talking about people who refuse to pay taxes altogether...then theres no point in any discussion.
Taichiliberal
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Please explain how providing an OPTION for you to WITHHOLD your tax dollars from a medical procedure, "provides federal funding..." for it. Remember, Roe vs. Wade has been law for over 30 years, so my proposal does NOT promote or support something that already exists.
Taichiliberal
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Since abortion is a PERSONAL CHOICE and not mandatory, your statement makes no sense....ESPECIALLY since you're not a woman (rather, you haven't indicated that you are). Maybe you should go back to imitating crickets?
Taichiliberal
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How is the gov't "invading another personal decision" if people have a CHOICE? And if they don't want their tax dollars spent on abortions, then my proposal is right up their alley!
DamnYankee
Loyal to the end
Why are you talking about abortion again? You refused to earlier after I destroyed your debate. Keep your laws off my body.
PostmodernProphet
fully immersed in faith..
because it spends YOUR tax dollars on it, which is NOT legal at the present time....thus it provides federal funding....../mutters something under his breath about liberals ignoring the obvious.....
Taichiliberal
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Back to square one...so the reality is you are not sincere about controlling how YOUR tax dollars are spent, per se...you want to control others tax dollars in accord with your personal beliefs. You're don't give a damn about the women or unwanted births...it's all about YOU sitting on your ass with smug confidence that no one is doing something against your personal beliefs! Remember, my Post Modern Fool, we live in a democracy...that means that occasionally the majority vote does not go your way but still stays within the guidelines of the Constitution and Bill of Rights. Roe vs. Wade is a reality...has been for over 30 years. You don't like it...work to vote it down.
Meanwhile, what my proposal does is remove an active talking point from your arsenal of "reasoning" for repeal of said ruling....and you don't like it because it's straight forward and logical.
What my proprosal has done is expose your hypocrisy. Now, continue to repeat your deconstructed point.
Taichiliberal
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Ahhh, but I'm not talking about donations. As I've pointed out to others, various States that finance hospitals that facilitate abortions function on State taxes. If you don't want that for your tax dollars, you would have an option not to.
Straight up, logical and simple....no "ruse" about it.
What seems to disturb the anti-abortion mindset about my proposal is that it logically and effectively removes one of their oft used talking points....thus exposing that it was NEVER about money, but about their ideology being enforced on others.
Taichiliberal
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You're not making sense....check the subject title and opening post of this thread. You've presented no logical argument that "destroys" anything. Your final sentence is illogical and irrational.
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The federal government has no right to interfere in how states collect taxes. Again. If you want your money to pay for abortions, donate to it. Stop trying to get Federal dollars to go towards it.
A silly bookkeeping ruse wouldn't change that the woman would choose. You aren't even participating in the same discussion.
PostmodernProphet
fully immersed in faith..
well, du'h......you weren't aware of that before?.....
/shrugs.....didn't your mommy ever teach you?.....just because all your friends want to throw their unborn children over a cliff, does that mean YOU ought to?......
your proposal removes nothing....it adds something....federal funding to help people throw unborn children over the cliff.....now I know you've been dying to participate in the killing of unborn children....it isn't enough for you to kill your own.....you want to contribute money to the killing of even more......
but you know, not only do I think you shouldn't be allowed to use tax money to kill unborn children, I'm even opposed to you making contributions to places like Planned Unparenthood......I don't think private money should be used to kill children either.....
Taichiliberal
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Options have been put in and taken out of the State and Federal tax forms for years...so your assertion makes no sense, unless you are advocating for NO federal taxes. That is a different argument.
Again, my proposal is an OPTION, which means that if your State has public hospitals that are facilitating abortions, you could do the tax table and have your taxes for such exempted. If your state receives federal funds for infrastructure, and said hospitals receive part of that funding, you could do the tax table and have your taxes for such exempted.
Again, my proposal DOES NOT initiate funding for abortion on either State or Federal level.....it merely gives YOU the option to remove yourself from the equation financially where applicable, as has been a point of contention with anti-abortion folks for years.