Ted Cruz Tells Reporters "I'm a Christian First, American Second"

[h=4][/h]#1 “The future must not belong to those who slander the Prophet of Islam”

#2The sweetest sound I know is the Muslim call to prayer”
#3 “We will convey our deep appreciation for the Islamic faith, which has done so much over the centuries to shape the world — including in my own country.”
#4 “As a student of history, I also know civilization’s debt to Islam.”
#5Islam has a proud tradition of tolerance.
#6 “Islam has always been part of America”
#7we will encourage more Americans to study in Muslim communities
#8 “These rituals remind us of the principles that we hold in common, and Islam’s role in advancing justice, progress, tolerance, and the dignity of all human beings.”
#9 “America and Islam are not exclusive and need not be in competition. Instead, they overlap, and share common principles of justice and progress, tolerance and the dignity of all human beings.”
#10 “I made clear that America is not – and never will be – at war with Islam.”
#11 “Islam is not part of the problem in combating violent extremism – it is an important part of promoting peace.”
#12 “So I have known Islam on three continents before coming to the region where it was first revealed”
#13 “In ancient times and in our times, Muslim communities have been at the forefront of innovation and education.”
#14 “Throughout history, Islam has demonstrated through words and deeds the possibilities of religious tolerance and racial equality.”
#15 “Ramadan is a celebration of a faith known for great diversity and racial equality
#16 “The Holy Koran tells us, ‘O mankind! We have created you male and a female; and we have made you into nations and tribes so that you may know one another.’”
#17 “I look forward to hosting an Iftar dinner celebrating Ramadan here at the White House later this week, and wish you a blessed month.”
#18 “We’ve seen those results in generations of Muslim immigrants – farmers and factory workers, helping to lay the railroads and build our cities, the Muslim innovators who helped build some of our highest skyscrapers and who helped unlock the secrets of our universe.”
#19 “That experience guides my conviction that partnership between America and Islam must be based on what Islam is, not what it isn’t. And I consider it part of my responsibility as president of the United States to fight against negative stereotypes of Islam wherever they appear.”
#20 “I also know that Islam has always been a part of America’s story.”



Its funny, Obama said everyone of these quotes, yet liberals never got upset with him....
 
To be a president of the United States you would have to put aside your religion hat and make decisions independently of the Church doctrines.

If your decisions can be made within the bounds of the Constitution and law of the land, you could put your religion first, but otherwise you have to be willing to allow the law of the land to supersede.

You've changed the dimensions of the question. There's nothing contradictory in believing in what's right (religion) and that it's not for government to force people to do what's right. It means nothing if you only follow religions because someone makes you. Like my wife making me go to church on Christmas and Easter. I'm not pretending I get credit for that with anyone but my wife
 
Muslims are loyal to shithole places like Arabia, Iran, and Syria. That's why some people have a problem with them (amongst many other reasons).

Islam calls for muslims to make every government a Muslim government. Jesus says render unto Caesar that which is Ceasars etc. Ellison would be the one with a problem here.
 
To be a president of the United States you would have to put aside your religion hat and make decisions independently of the Church doctrines.

If your decisions can be made within the bounds of the Constitution and law of the land, you could put your religion first, but otherwise you have to be willing to allow the law of the land to supersede.

Right, and who on the world stage struggles with that, Christian leaders or Muslims leaders? Was the Arab Spring in Egypt hijacked by Muslims or Christians?

If you can't answer those questions honestly your blinded by political correctness.
 
Yeah, God forbid you hear a politician say anything informative rather than the 'general' statements for dodos....you must love those Dem.debates....

I vaguely remember some Palestinians accusing Bush of that...If its all the same to you, I'll not go with the Palestinian stories....

How about Chirac, or do you still consider him to be a cheese-eating surrender monkey?

"Chirac recounts that the American leader appealed to their “common faith” (Christianity) and told him: “Gog and Magog are at work in the Middle East.... The biblical prophecies are being fulfilled.... This confrontation is willed by God, who wants to use this conflict to erase his people’s enemies before a New Age begins.”

This bizarre episode occurred while the White House was assembling its “coalition of the willing” to unleash the Iraq invasion. Chirac says he was boggled by Bush’s call and “wondered how someone could be so superficial and fanatical in their beliefs.”

Bush was religious but then so was his Father, Jimmy Carter, JFK and countless presidents before them....history shows it who we are....or were.
Please cite where any of the above said they put Christianity over country.

Boykin's job was to find and eliminate Osama bin Laden, Saddam Hussein, and others....he compared the war on terrorism as a war between Christian values and Satan.
I consider that a very apt analogy.....he believes his God has a purpose for him or something like that.....most true believers do....hes a war hero and deserves your sincere thanks, not your disdain....
Boykin was wrong to make such a belief public. he was on active duty and in uniform and apparently didn't care that his inflammatory remarks could endanger our troops. I guess bush and the Pentagon inspector general "disdained" him according to you, since both criticized him publicly.

I doubt if there is any proselytizing in battle, but you'd be amazed how many crucifixes there are....
We both know I'm not talking about wearing a crucifix but about carrying one like a battle flag.

I agree.....you don't know anything about the military, what they do, how they feel, how they cope, or their values....
I disagree. All the males in my family- father, uncles, brothers, cousins- were in the military so I know plenty.

SO...you are afraid to answer my question....well, its something to mull over...hope you never do have to make that decision one day....its those that put their lives on the line
that make those kinds of decisions every day....even the hardest of men and women pray .....

I already gave you an answer. You just refused to accept it because it wasn't in the black-and-white terms you prefer. And everything else you said here has nothing to do with Cruz's comment. That would be the Cruz who never served in the military himself, so he doesn't know about making decisions about those who put their lives on the line.
 
http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/...merica/418857/

American Muslims aren't killing people for not converting. ..........you said it no anyone else and yes..... That's a diversion.

And I too, as an agnostic, am committed to the separation of church and state ....thats the reason I stick up for those that are religious.....

The gov. is prohibited from making laws concerning the establishment of a religion and the FREE exercise thereof....yet its you that mock them, :palm:

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I stick up for all religion too, and that includes Islam... unlike you and the other Muslim haters.

Only you would think that criticizing Cruz's comments translates to mocking the government... if that's what you intended the last sentence to say.
 
#1 “The future must not belong to those who slander the Prophet of Islam”

#2The sweetest sound I know is the Muslim call to prayer”
#3 “We will convey our deep appreciation for the Islamic faith, which has done so much over the centuries to shape the world — including in my own country.”
#4 “As a student of history, I also know civilization’s debt to Islam.”
#5Islam has a proud tradition of tolerance.
#6 “Islam has always been part of America”
#7we will encourage more Americans to study in Muslim communities
#8 “These rituals remind us of the principles that we hold in common, and Islam’s role in advancing justice, progress, tolerance, and the dignity of all human beings.”
#9 “America and Islam are not exclusive and need not be in competition. Instead, they overlap, and share common principles of justice and progress, tolerance and the dignity of all human beings.”
#10 “I made clear that America is not – and never will be – at war with Islam.”
#11 “Islam is not part of the problem in combating violent extremism – it is an important part of promoting peace.”
#12 “So I have known Islam on three continents before coming to the region where it was first revealed”
#13 “In ancient times and in our times, Muslim communities have been at the forefront of innovation and education.”
#14 “Throughout history, Islam has demonstrated through words and deeds the possibilities of religious tolerance and racial equality.”
#15 “Ramadan is a celebration of a faith known for great diversity and racial equality
#16 “The Holy Koran tells us, ‘O mankind! We have created you male and a female; and we have made you into nations and tribes so that you may know one another.’”
#17 “I look forward to hosting an Iftar dinner celebrating Ramadan here at the White House later this week, and wish you a blessed month.”
#18 “We’ve seen those results in generations of Muslim immigrants – farmers and factory workers, helping to lay the railroads and build our cities, the Muslim innovators who helped build some of our highest skyscrapers and who helped unlock the secrets of our universe.”
#19 “That experience guides my conviction that partnership between America and Islam must be based on what Islam is, not what it isn’t. And I consider it part of my responsibility as president of the United States to fight against negative stereotypes of Islam wherever they appear.”
#20 “I also know that Islam has always been a part of America’s story.”

Its funny, Obama said everyone of these quotes, yet liberals never got upset with him....

Why would we when all those statements are true and we supported them? When bush said the same, for once I wasn't upset with him either.
 
What a stupid post. Everyone who's serious about any religion says that. Can't take the air head out of the blond, can you?

Poor you, so sensitive about posting current events. :crybaby:

You'd probably be happier on some right-wing echo chamber, there are plenty out there.
 
Poor you, so sensitive about posting current events. :crybaby:

You'd probably be happier on some right-wing echo chamber, there are plenty out there.

Got nothing, huh? You are the chief JPP spammer. Your only content is the blond in the bottle you use every month
 
What a stupid post. Everyone who's serious about any religion says that. Can't take the air head out of the blond, can you?

then everyone who is serious about religion should not be president.


If you are not willing to place your own religion second to your job as president you are not capable of doing the job.



You MUST be able to REPRESENT people who are NOT in your religion.


if you cant


don't run


its why your party is dying


you party pretends christianity is the only religion and that non Christians are evil.



you shrink you base constantly
 
To be a president of the United States you would have to put aside your religion hat and make decisions independently of the Church doctrines.

If your decisions can be made within the bounds of the Constitution and law of the land, you could put your religion first, but otherwise you have to be willing to allow the law of the land to supersede.

Democrats like Christie do this everyday, without even holding local office.
 
then everyone who is serious about religion should not be president.


If you are not willing to place your own religion second to your job as president you are not capable of doing the job.



You MUST be able to REPRESENT people who are NOT in your religion.


if you cant


don't run


its why your party is dying


you party pretends christianity is the only religion and that non Christians are evil.



you shrink you base constantly

Read what I actually wrote and respond to that
 
Wrong shithead.
Faith based leadership (as proven for example by Dubya's faith based iniatives) is a setup to lose.

For fiscal year 2005, more than $2.2 billion in competitive social service grants were awarded to faith-based organizations. Between fiscal years 2003 and 2005, the total dollar amount of all grants awarded to FBOs increased by 21 percent (GAO 2006:43[3]). The majority of these grants were distributed through state agencies to local organizations in the form of formula grants (GAO 2006:17[3]).
Establishment clause issues

Faith-based organizations are eligible to participate in federally administered social service programs to the same degree as any other group, although certain restrictions on FBOs that accept government funding have been created by the White House to avoid violations of the Establishment Clause.

They may not use direct government funds to support inherently religious activities such as prayer, worship, religious instruction, or proselytization.
Any inherently religious activities that the organizations may offer must be offered separately in time or location from services that receive federal assistance.
FBOs cannot discriminate on the basis of religion when providing services (GAO 2006:13[3]).

Under Barack Obama
President Barack Obama greets and thanks members of the President's Council on Faith-Based and Neighborhood Partnerships during a drop by in the Roosevelt Room of the White House, March 9, 2010.


President Barack Obama renamed the office [4] and appointed Joshua DuBois as its head. He also established an advisory council for the office. The Advisory Council is composed of religious and secular leaders and scholars from different backgrounds. Each member of the Council is appointed to a one-year term. The members of the Council [5] include:

Diane Baillargeon, President & CEO, Seedco, New York, NY
Anju Bhargava, Founder, Asian Indian Women in America, New Jersey
Bishop Charles E. Blake, Presiding Bishop, Church of God in Christ, Los Angeles, CA
Noel Castellanos, CEO, Christian Community Development Association, Chicago, IL
The Rev. Peg Chemberlin, President-Elect, National Council of Churches USA, Minneapolis, MN
Dr. Arturo Chavez, President & CEO, Mexican American Catholic College, San Antonio, TX
Fred Davie, Senior Adviser, Public/Private Ventures, New York, NY
Nathan Diament, Director of Public Policy, Union of Orthodox Jewish Congregations of America, Washington, DC
Pastor Joel C. Hunter, Senior Pastor, Northland, a Church Distributed, Longwood, FL
Harry Knox, Director, Religion and Faith Program, Human Rights Campaign, Washington, DC
Bishop Vashti M. McKenzie, Presiding Bishop, 13th Episcopal District, African Methodist Episcopal Church, Knoxville, TN
Dalia Mogahed, Executive Director, Gallup Center for Muslim Studies, Washington, DC
Rev. Otis Moss Jr., Pastor emeritus, Olivet Institutional Baptist Church, Cleveland, OH
Dr. Frank S. Page, President emeritus, Southern Baptist Convention, Taylors, SC
Eboo S. Patel, Founder & Executive Director, Interfaith Youth Core, Chicago, IL
Anthony Picarello, General Counsel, United States Conference of Catholic Bishops, Washington, DC
Nancy Ratzan, National President, National Council of Jewish Women, Miami, FL
Melissa Rogers, Director, Wake Forest University School of Divinity Center for Religion and Public Affairs, Winston-Salem, NC
Rabbi David N. Saperstein, Director & Counsel, Religious Action Center of Reform Judaism, Washington, DC
Dr. William J. Shaw, President, National Baptist Convention, USA, Philadelphia, PA
Father Larry J. Snyder, President, Catholic Charities USA, Alexandria, VA
Richard Stearns, President, World Vision, Bellevue, WA
Judith N. Vredenburgh, President and Chief Executive Officer, Big Brothers Big Sisters of America, Philadelphia, PA
Rev. Jim Wallis, President & Executive Director, Sojourners, Washington, DC
Dr. Sharon Watkins, General Minister and President, Christian Church (Disciples of Christ), Indianapolis, IN

According to ABC News, the office would seek "to expand the role of this office as it relates to policy issues where religious and local leaders can be effective. DuBois will coordinate with faith-based and community organizations on social service outreach and will work to utilize these organizations' efforts to advance the administration's policies, with a primary focus on poverty."[6]
 
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I stick up for all religion too, and that includes Islam... unlike you and the other Muslim haters.

Only you would think that criticizing Cruz's comments translates to mocking the government... if that's what you intended the last sentence to say.

http://lajuett.com/patriotic-religious-quotes.html


Tell me,sweetie.....where did I EVER say I hated Muslims.....other than when talking about Islamic terrortists....?

Criticizing Cruz's comment about being a Christian first, mocks the entire list of founding fathers and most Presidents...
 
Sorry, the Founding Father's weren't all Christian, another fact you have been told but ignore.
True, but you're kind of splitting hairs. They were deists with Judeo Christian based morality. Regarding the discussion that's a distinction without a difference.

As to the topic, so just to be clear, it's your position that no one who doesn't put the government or the United States as their #1 priority should be President? That's your actual argument?
 
True, but you're kind of splitting hairs. They were deists with Judeo Christian based morality. Regarding the discussion that's a distinction without a difference.

As to the topic, so just to be clear, it's your position that no one who doesn't put the government or the United States as their #1 priority should be President? That's your actual argument?
Supernatural superstitions have no place in governance.
 
Supernatural superstitions have no place in governance.

Well, that eliminates liberalism which is based on pure faith since there is no empirical evidence to back it up. At least for the religious, we know there is an earth and it came from somewhere. That puts religion ahead of liberalism in being backed up by evidence
 
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