blackascoal
The Force is With Me
Very well said.
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Taliban behead 17 at Afghan party 'with music and dancing'
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Very well said.
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I always find it interesting how the war mongers fixate on Afghanistan...as they have been instructed to do by their masters (to coin a phrase, he he).
Sudanese women? Why don't we invade?
The fact is they don't give any more of a shit about women than George W Bush did when he invaded. This isn't about women, has never been about women, and never will be about women.
I have mixed feelings on the topic but the bottom line is they don't want us there, the women rage against us and feel we kill their children, the academics lay out very complex reasons why western culture will never be adopted in their homelands nor do they want it, they define freedom in their own way and feel they have to attain it themselves. I am amused by blowhard men cursing and screaming on the internet...neither of whom have ever spoken with even one of these women. It's not an easy conversation. Anyone who believes I agreed with everything, or even most of what they had to say is straight up crazy.
But I do know we can't force "Freedom" at the end of a gun or at the bottom of a bomb exploding on children. It hasn't worked in the ten years we have been there, and it never will. Just the facts.
You really do talk out of your arse, so what the fuck do you know anyway? Women are voting with their feet and getting the fuck out, because they don't believe some blowhard hardline feminist in Noo Yawk that they won't be stoned, shot or beheaded.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/may/26/afghan-women-security-fears-inequality
blackascoal
The Force is With Me
Run from what question? What is the point of having the largest military in the world if you are terrified to use it for fear of adverse public opinion. Your argument is essentially the one used in Somalia which has consigned that beknighted country to its fate for the last 21 years. It is only now starting to get back on its feet because other African nations finally got their act together and kicked Al-Shabaab out.
The question is what resources are going to be used to keep the US and NATO in Afghanistan forever and who is going to do the dying?
Are you going to put your life or the life of your children on the line for your pipe dream?
Afghanistan women don't want you or NATO in their country. How many times are you going to run from that?
blackascoal
The Force is With Me
You really do talk out of your arse, so what the fuck do you know anyway?
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/may/26/afghan-women-security-fears-inequality
What the fuck do you know?
You continue to reject the evidence that Afghanis don't want to be occupied.
By the way, that's a woman that you're talking to.
When NATO leaves Afghanistan .. which is what it should do with the quickness .. Afghanistan will go back to being Afghanistan without an American/NATO invasion.
Obama and the left gave Egypt to the Muslim brotherhoodIn other words, we are incapable of policing the world, and we are no more capable of protecting the Afghanis forever than we were of protecting the South Vietnamese who worked with us, nor more than were capable of protecting the Iraqis who worked with us.
There are limits to military power .. ESPECIALLY when you invade a foreign land thousands of miles from your shores and start killing innocent civilians.
Who protects the Afghanis or the Pakistanis FROM US?
Who protected the Iraqis FROM US?
Who protected the Libyans FROM US?
I'm glad that you can live with the deaths of the civilians that we have and are still murdering .. and I'm glad that you can live with the deaths of good American men and women in the military who are sent to their deaths on these needless misadventures.
and killed Libyans for nothing
Didn't your inept Obama promise to leave Afghanistan 4 yours ago....?
To close Gitmo, 4 years ago.....?
To get unemployment under 8%, 4 years ago..../
We're still in Afghanistan, Gitmo is still open, unemployment still out of control
the country is close to bankruptcy and welfare is at record levels.....
Its time you voted with a man's competence in mind, instead of his skin color.....
blackascoal
The Force is With Me
Obama and the left gave Egypt to the Muslim brotherhood
and killed Libyans for nothing
Didn't your inept Obama promise to leave Afghanistan 4 yours ago....?
To close Gitmo, 4 years ago.....?
To get unemployment under 8%, 4 years ago..../
We're still in Afghanistan, Gitmo is still open, unemployment still out of control
the country is close to bankruptcy and welfare is at record levels.....
Its time you voted with a man's competence in mind, instead of his skin color.....
What an ignorant buffoonish clown you are?
I voted for Obama?
I support Obama?
Go stick your head in a toliet.
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What the fuck do you know?
You continue to reject the evidence that Afghanis don't want to be occupied.
By the way, that's a woman that you're talking to.
Nobody wants to be occupied they also do not want to be ruled by a bunch of Islamic loonies, you choose to ignore that because it is expedient to do so.
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Darla
What the fuck do you know?
You continue to reject the evidence that Afghanis don't want to be occupied.
By the way, that's a woman that you're talking to.
LOL Good point.
Tom is what I can an internet expert. He spends many hours googling for evidence to support his own opinions on a wide variety of subjects and considers himself an expert on just about everything.
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Darla
You really do talk out of your arse, so what the fuck do you know anyway? Women are voting with their feet and getting the fuck out, because they don't believe some blowhard hardline feminist in Noo Yawk that they won't be stoned, shot or beheaded.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/may/26/afghan-women-security-fears-inequality
Tom I'm not going to get into a google war with you. I could find 10 to every one of your articles showing that women want us out. It's a meaningless fool's game which is why you're so fond of it.
There have been rural uprisings in places that remain Taliban strongholds, and they have been thrown out. Only when the Afghani people reject them can they truly be driven out. We've been there a decade. If they (their police forces) aren't trained now, they never will be. We cannot occupy a country forever in order to keep the bad men out. If England wants to do it alone, have at it, and be sure to send your son.
When NATO leaves Afghanistan .. which is what it should do with the quickness .. Afghanistan will go back to being Afghanistan without an American/NATO invasion.
What an ignorant buffoonish clown you are?
I voted for Obama?
I support Obama?
Go stick your head in a toliet.
First, learn to read....
I didn't say you voted for or support Obama......I did say, you should vote for the most competent and not by skin color.....
And as a self described 'socialist', you don't have much of a choice in the election do you....
Obama is the closest you're gonna get to 'socialist' and he is obviously the least competent of the choices.....thats an undeniable fact of life.
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Darla
Obama and the left gave Egypt to the Muslim brotherhood
and killed Libyans for nothing
Didn't your inept Obama promise to leave Afghanistan 4 yours ago....?
To close Gitmo, 4 years ago.....?
To get unemployment under 8%, 4 years ago..../
We're still in Afghanistan, Gitmo is still open, unemployment still out of control
the country is close to bankruptcy and welfare is at record levels.....
Its time you voted with a man's competence in mind, instead of his skin color.....
Unlike Bravo, who only coincidentally always voted for the white guy.
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Darla
First, learn to read....
I didn't say you voted for or support Obama......I did say, you should vote for the most competent and not by skin color.....
And as a self described 'socialist', you don't have much of a choice in the election do you....
Obama is the closest you're gonna get to 'socialist' and he is obviously the least competent of the choices.....thats an undeniable fact of life.
LOL You're a moron. That's an undeniable fact of life.
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What the fuck do you know?
You continue to reject the evidence that Afghanis don't want to be occupied.
By the way, that's a woman that you're talking to.
As for Darla, I am supposed to afford her some kind of old fashioned respect just because she is a woman, didn't feminists fight against holding doors open or not swearing etc. I presume that you have never experienced Darla's full repertoire of Anglo Saxon?
Tom I'm not going to get into a google war with you. I could find 10 to every one of your articles showing that women want us out. It's a meaningless fool's game which is why you're so fond of it.
There have been rural uprisings in places that remain Taliban strongholds, and they have been thrown out. Only when the Afghani people reject them can they truly be driven out. We've been there a decade. If they (their police forces) aren't trained now, they never will be. We cannot occupy a country forever in order to keep the bad men out. If England wants to do it alone, have at it, and be sure to send your son.
Its neither men nor women, its Muslims want us out....and if you don't espouse that sentiment, they fuckin' cut your head off and laugh, like the barbarians they are.
Agree or die....its that simple
Unlike Bravo, who only coincidentally always voted for the white guy.
I vote for the conservative......not his shade of tan.
LOL You're a moron. That's an undeniable fact of life.
Wow, what an intelligent retort, what a fool you are......not the debate team captain were you ?
As for Darla, I am supposed to afford her some kind of old fashioned respect just because she is a woman, didn't feminists fight against holding doors open or not swearing etc. I presume that you have never experienced Darla's full repertoire of Anglo Saxon?
Lipstick on a pig.....how fitting.
blackascoal
The Force is With Me
First, learn to read....
I didn't say you voted for or support Obama......I did say, you should vote for the most competent and not by skin color.....
And as a self described 'socialist', you don't have much of a choice in the election do you....
Obama is the closest you're gonna get to 'socialist' and he is obviously the least competent of the choices.....thats an undeniable fact of life.
First, I have every bit of the same choices that you do. I could vote for Corporatist1, Corporatist2, or other .. just like you.
But the punch line was you talking about "most competent." Surely you know that's a punch line.
Finally, the notion of Obama being a socialist is so mindboggling stupid that it just adds to the levity and ridiculousness of your posts.
Yes, Wall Street is in the habit of dumping shitloads of money on a socialist.
How ignorant.
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The question is what resources are going to be used to keep the US and NATO in Afghanistan forever and who is going to do the dying?
Are you going to put your life or the life of your children on the line for your pipe dream?
Afghanistan women don't want you or NATO in their country. How many times are you going to run from that?
This is just like going back to the '70s with Cambodia and Iran. Would you have left the Cambodians and the Iranians to their fate even knowing what you know now?
blackascoal
The Force is With Me
This is just like going back to the '70s with Cambodia and Iran. Would you have left the Cambodians and the Iranians to their fate even knowing what you know now?
Dude, stop dancing.
You recognize the question just as you recognize how it demonstrates the absolute failure of your argument.
Why do you keep arguing such a failed premise?
By the way .. I would have never interferred in Iranian or Cambodian politics .. and we did it for profit.