Take Anything You Hear About This War with a Mountain of Salt

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Let me tell you how wars work. The first report is always wrong.

The battle in Ukraine seems to be one of the most covered and worst covered events in history.

You cannot spend more than two minutes on social media without crossing paths with a snippet of shaky cell phone footage of a Russian tank burning or some heroic story of sturdy Ukrainian resistance.

You have self-described "experts" everywhere trying to tell you what’s happening.

Maybe you think the Ukrainians are winning, that their counterattacks are driving out the Russian invaders.

There are plenty of sources saying 2800 or 5300 or some other oddly large and specific number of Russian soldiers are dead. All hail the coming victory!

Well, we’ll see.

But I understand that I, like you, am a target of information operations by Ukrainians, Russians, and even Americans. Get woke to it.

All that exciting footage? What do you know about where it was shot, or when? Nada. Zip. Zero.

We’ve seen people trying to pass off simulator footage as real battle video.

We’ve seen explosions and fires without context. What caused them? Who knows when all you have is the label on the video?

All those Russian tanks on fire? Well, guess what kind of equipment the Ukrainians use.

Don't believe a damn thing you see or hear right now.



https://townhall.com/columnists/kurtschlichter/2022/03/02/take-anything-you-hear-about-this-war-with-a-mountain-of-salt-n2604010
 


The Russian invasion of Ukraine continues despite "resolutions, condemnations, unity, and sanctions".

As do the pundits calling for military action.

Guess how many of the "experts" you see hyping the war are paid shills for weapons manufactures.
 
Are you simping for Ukrainian propaganda spread by the left?

Fact Check-Russia’s U.N. envoy did not suggest Trump was overthrown

Social media posters have been sharing a video clip, wrongly saying it shows Russia’s ambassador to the United Nations, Vassily Nebenzia, suggesting that former U.S. president Donald Trump was overthrown.

But Nebenzia’s statement, in a speech to the U.N. General Assembly, has been misleadingly edited. His full statement shows he was not referring to Trump at all. Nebenzia was accusing Western countries of helping to oust the pro-Russian former president of Ukraine in 2014.

One user who shared the clip via Twitter wrote: “Russian Ambassador says to the UN that the legitimately elected president of the United States (Trump) was overthrown.”


https://www.reuters.com/article/factcheck-russia-un/fact-check-russias-u-n-envoy-did-not-suggest-trump-was-overthrown-idUSL2N2V72H8
 
Fact Check-No evidence Ukrainians are selling captured Russian tanks on eBay


Posts suggesting people have found Russian tanks abandoned in Ukraine and are selling them on eBay are bogus. A screenshot appearing to show such a sale appears to be faked. Any such sale would go against company policy, eBay said.

Tens of thousands of social media users have shared a screenshot of an alleged sales listing on eBay, titled: “Used Russian T-72 tank – Fully functional” and which includes a picture of the tank. It pitches a “Buy it Now” price of $400,000.

“Ukrainians are selling used Russian tanks on eBay,”said one Twitter user on March 2.



Reuters.com/article/factcheck-ukrainians-ebay/fact-check-no-evidence-ukrainians-are-selling-abandoned-russian-tanks-on-ebay-idUSL2N2V72H6
 
Fact Check-Video of Russian and Ukrainian soldiers ‘face to face’ is from Crimea in 2014

Social media users are sharing a video that shows Russian and Ukrainian soldiers in a standoff and falsely saying it shows the recent conflict in Ukraine. The video was taken in Crimea in 2014.

https://www.reuters.com/article/factcheck-soldiers-standoff/fact-check-video-of-russian-and-ukrainian-soldiers-face-to-face-is-from-crimea-in-2014-idUSL2N2V72GR
 
Fact Check-Photo does not show Kyiv football team in military gear


A widely shared photo of 25 men in military gear has been miscaptioned online, with social media users wrongly saying it shows players from Ukraine’s Dynamo Kyiv soccer team preparing to fight the Russian army. The image actually shows members of the Ukrainian nationalist organization Gonor.


https://www.reuters.com/article/factcheck-notfckiev-photo/fact-check-photo-does-not-show-dynamo-kyiv-players-in-military-gear-idUSL2N2V71OB
 
Fact Check-Video shows blast at Ukraine’s Melitopol Air Base, not at a major civilian airport


Social media users have been sharing an image on an explosion in Ukraine, wrongly saying it shows an attack on “Ukraine International Airport,” or Kyiv International Airport during Russia’s invasion. The footage, that was "verified" and broadcast by CNN and other mainstream outlets, shows an attack on Ukraine’s Melitopol Air Base.



https://www.reuters.com/article/factcheck-video-ukraine-explosions/fact-check-video-shows-blast-at-ukraines-melitopol-air-base-not-at-a-major-civilian-airport-idUSL2N2V71WU
 
Fact Check-Video shows wreckage from Beirut port blast, not Ukraine war


Social media users have been sharing video of wreckage left by Beirut’s port explosion in 2020, and wrongly saying it shows Ukraine in 2022.

The footage has been viewed 230,000 times in one Facebook post alone with the caption: “Omg pray for Ukraine”. It shows a landscape of leveled buildings, debris, people running and smashed windows. Sirens and alarms can also be heard.

However, the video shared on Facebook is not related to the ongoing war in Ukraine. It was from in the immediate aftermath of the August 2020 explosion at Beirut port in Lebanon.


https://www.reuters.com/article/factcheck-ukraine-lebanon/fact-check-video-shows-wreckage-from-beirut-port-blast-not-ukraine-war-idUSL2N2V71U3
 
Fact Check-‘Live’ footage from Ukraine was actually filmed in 2014

More than 500,000 people have viewed a Facebook video incorrectly described as showing “live” battlefield coverage from Ukraine. Online checks show the footage is at least seven years old.

https://www.reuters.com/article/factcheck-ukraine-donetsk/fact-check-live-footage-from-ukraine-was-actually-filmed-in-2014-idUSL2N2V71TS
 
That is what I do whenever Legion starts another damn thread. He is so far up Trump's orange ass, that he can see lo daylight.
 
Fact Check-Video shows clips from 2017 film, not Ukrainian soldiers leaving for war

Social media users are sharing a video showing clips from a 2017 film called “The War of Chimeras” and claiming it shows Ukrainian soldiers saying goodbye to their families as they leave for war amidst Russia’s invasion of the country in February 2022.



https://www.reuters.com/article/factcheck-ukraine-soldiers/fact-check-video-shows-clips-from-2017-film-not-ukrainian-soldiers-leaving-for-war-idUSL2N2V62T5
 
Fact Check-Video shows climate demonstration, not body bags in Ukraine war


Footage from a February 2022 climate policy demonstration held by the activist group “Fridays for Future” in Austria is being miscaptioned on social media by users who claim it shows “body bags” in Ukraine.


https://www.reuters.com/article/factcheck-ukraine-body-bags/fact-check-video-shows-climate-demonstration-not-staged-body-bags-in-ukraine-war-idUSL2N2V6241
 
Nordberg said:
That is what I do whenever Legion starts another damn thread. He is so far up Trump's orange ass, that he can see lo daylight.
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Is that what you tell yourself when you troll my threads because you're butthurt about being banned 4 times for breaking Rule 12b?
 
Legion said:
iu



Let me tell you how wars work. The first report is always wrong.

The battle in Ukraine seems to be one of the most covered and worst covered events in history.

You cannot spend more than two minutes on social media without crossing paths with a snippet of shaky cell phone footage of a Russian tank burning or some heroic story of sturdy Ukrainian resistance.

You have self-described "experts" everywhere trying to tell you what’s happening.

Maybe you think the Ukrainians are winning, that their counterattacks are driving out the Russian invaders.

There are plenty of sources saying 2800 or 5300 or some other oddly large and specific number of Russian soldiers are dead. All hail the coming victory!

Well, we’ll see.

But I understand that I, like you, am a target of information operations by Ukrainians, Russians, and even Americans. Get woke to it.

All that exciting footage? What do you know about where it was shot, or when? Nada. Zip. Zero.

We’ve seen people trying to pass off simulator footage as real battle video.

We’ve seen explosions and fires without context. What caused them? Who knows when all you have is the label on the video?

All those Russian tanks on fire? Well, guess what kind of equipment the Ukrainians use.

Don't believe a damn thing you see or hear right now.



https://townhall.com/columnists/kurtschlichter/2022/03/02/take-anything-you-hear-about-this-war-with-a-mountain-of-salt-n2604010
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Typical. His thesis is "one of the most and worst covered event in history" and his stated evidence source is "social media", reliable for being worst covered of everything in history.
 
Fact Check-Photo shows Kyiv’s Independence Square during 2014 anti-government protests, not the 2022 conflict in Ukraine

A photo of smoke rising from Kyiv’s Independence Square during a 2014 anti-government protest has been incorrectly linked to the 2022 war in Ukraine.

Social media posts have compared two images of the square, claiming they were "taken five days apart" – one on Feb. 20, 2022, and the other on Feb. 25.

The first photo shows a general view of Independence Square, very similar to the angle seen in livestream footage here, and shows quiet streets. Reuters was unable to independently verify the date of the image.

The second, meanwhile, shows fires burning and smoke billowing over the square. However, this was not taken on Feb. 25, 2022. It predates the current conflict by eight years.

A Getty Images photo from Feb. 25 shows an entirely different scene on Independence Square to the one suggested in the Facebook post.

This is because the Facebook photo is a Reuters image taken on Feb. 19, 2014, during demonstrations against president Viktor Yanukovich.


https://www.reuters.com/article/factcheck-ukraine-kyiv/fact-check-photo-shows-kyivs-independence-square-during-2014-anti-government-protests-not-the-2022-conflict-in-ukraine-idUSL2N2V61XA
 
the fog of war has hit pea soup in this little dust up.

not surprised of course but its sad to see so many taken in over it. especially so given just how silly its become.
 
Fact Check-Associated Press did not publish story on the ‘Ghost of Kyiv,’ contrary to online posts

Social media users are sharing a fabricated story about the “Ghost of Kyiv”, an unverified legend about a Ukrainian pilot that has "shot down multiple Russian planes". The online claim credits The Associated Press (AP), but the outlet published no such report.

Reuters has been unable to independently verify the existence of a "Ukrainian jet fighter" who has gone viral on social media for purportedly "shooting down six Russian aircraft" amidst the February 2022 Russian invasion of Ukraine. Reuters has debunked several claims regarding the “Ghost of Kyiv.”


https://www.reuters.com/article/factcheck-associated-press-ghostofkyiv/fact-check-associated-press-did-not-publish-story-on-the-ghost-of-kyiv-contrary-to-online-posts-idUSL2N2V61O7
 
Celticguy said:
the fog of war has hit pea soup in this little dust up. not surprised of course but its sad to see so many taken in over it. especially so given just how silly its become.
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You'll note that most news articles that spread this swill seem to favor the Ukrainians.
 
Fact Check-Paratrooper’s collision with a building which was caught on camera happened in Brazil, not Ukraine


A video of a paratrooper crashing into a building was not filmed in Ukraine and does not pertain to the February 2022 Russian invasion. The clip dates to at least July 2021 and was filmed in a military base in Rio de Janeiro, Brazil.


https://www.reuters.com/article/factcheck-brazil-paratrooper/fact-check-paratroopers-collision-with-a-building-which-was-caught-on-camera-happened-in-brazil-not-ukraine-idUSL1N2V50YL
 
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