Supreme Court slaps down Trump again on DACA

T. A. Gardner said:
Red herring in the form of a strawman. What does this have to do with the Trump administration making a procedural error in ending a program to shield them from deportation?
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It doesn't. It has to do with the bullshit you posted about separating dreamers from their parents.
 
Earl said:
It's not a final decision.

The Court did not rule on the legitimacy of DACA, It ruled on the procedure that was used to end DACA. The procedure can be be redone per the rules for ending an EO and then the outcome in the S,C. will probably be different.

https://video.foxnews.com/v/6165347810001#sp=show-clips



It was a procedural error only per Judge Andrew Napolitano.
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Well IF he is right, it will not be for another year that any other decision will be made.
 
I Love America said:
that really should be what is at question

maybe we should think about putting regular old folks on the Supreme Court
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i read it, something about "following th procedure to end the law" bt it's not a law....so nonsensical..so Roberts like with his reasoning that the Obamacare mandate was a tax (mandating economic activity)
 
The prohibition on rescission based on the APA makes no sense at all. The original DACA order was itself illegal. The idea that an illegal program can be put in place without going through any administrative process but can not be ended without fully addressing third party claims of harm is ludicrous and is a precedent that will have huge ramifications going forward. This basically lionizes all EOs and EMs as untouchable law now, because you will always have some party claiming harm from the changing of any policy.
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https://www.redstate.com/bonchie/2020/06/18/breaking-supreme-court-rules-trump-cant-end-daca/

YEP....SCOTUS is not even pretending to try anymore.

We are so screwed.
 
floridafan said:
Every single day we are faced with the ineptitude of this administration.
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Ineptitude is what the Obama administration showed. It was doing things the lazy way or rolling out some new shiny idea only to do nothing with it beyond pitch it to the public. I would use the example of gun control. Obama made an impassioned speech saying his administration would do something about gun violence. He put Joe Biden in charge of getting it done. Nothing happened and the whole thing quietly disappeared from the "radar" a few weeks later. Obama had moved on to the next shiny object.

Trump has shown a propensity to push something through. You and I might not agree with it, but that's a separate issue. If the courts smack it down for some procedural error--his travel ban is a perfect example--Trump does it over, and over, until he gets it right and pushes the program through. That isn't ineptitude. It is lawyers fighting over technicalities. I simply expect Trump will follow this pattern with DACA.
 
anatta said:
i read it, something about "following th procedure to end the law" bt it's not a law....so nonsensical..so Roberts like with his reasoning that the Obamacare mandate was a tax (mandating economic activity)
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Obama announced his intention to expand DACA to cover additional undocumented immigrants. That was an illegal E.O. by Obama but the procedure to terminate it needs a do-over.
 
Earl said:
Obama announced his intention to expand DACA to cover additional undocumented immigrants. That was an illegal E.O. by Obama but the procedure to terminate it needs a do-over.
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i must be missing something about this "procedure" but since when does an XO need any procedure?
You simply order it
 
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