sub's hull was made with carbon fiber from Boeing that was past its airplane shelf li

[Into Тhe Night]

You are wrong. I am anti-closed shop unions. That is, if you want to join a union go for it. Don't force me to join just because you want to however. I am pro Right to Work. Oh, and unions are hardly pro safety unless there is some financial gain for them involved.

As someone who is pro-union, I can't tell you what I really think without getting banned.

 

[Into Тhe Night]

None of these specify a shelf life for carbon fiber.
AC20-107B specifies the procedure for documenting strength of materials used in composite aircraft.
AC23-20 specifies the requirements for documenting prepreg material and quality control procedures. It doesn't even discuss carbon fiber specifications and does not specify a shelf life of carbon fiber.
AR02/109 is a specification sheet for documenting the construction and shipping of prepreg, not carbon fiber.

The FAA does not specify a shelf life of carbon fiber.

Everyone is suddenly a submarine expert.

 

[Into the Night]

Thats the point, you dont think he has every done anything wrong. Its always someone else's fault.

Trump has not broken any law. This is not about loyalty. It's about the law (which you still continue to deny).

 

[Into the Night]

It has been found that the original processing characteristics of G Sized carbon fiber will essentially remain constant for at least one year from the date of manufacture

That depends entirely on the method of storage.

 

[PoliTalker]

Hello guno,

The stunning claim came in a series of articles by Travel Weekly's editor in chief, Arnie Weissmann, who this week chronicled his experiences with the deep-sea-diving company.

Weissmann wrote that he was due to board the Titan to view the Titanic in May but the trip was stopped by weather. In fact, just a couple of weeks stood between his would-be voyage and the trip that ended in tragedy this week when the vessel imploded, killing all five on board, he wrote.

In general, he said, he was impressed by "what appeared to be a risk-averse operation."

But one thing concerned him, he wrote.

Rush told Weissmann that "he had gotten the carbon fiber used to make the Titan at a big discount from Boeing because it was past its shelf life for use in airplanes," Weissmann wrote.

In his recollection, he asked Rush whether that was a problem, but he said he was told that the shelf-life dates "were set far before they had to be."

Both OceanGate and Boeing declined to comment on Weissmann's claims. Insider was unable to independently verify the source of the Titan's carbon fiber.

OceanGate's website previously claimed that the vessel was designed and engineered "in collaboration" with Boeing.

Boeing has denied any involvement in the design of the Titan.

https://www.insider.com/oceangate-ceo-said-titan-made-old-material-bought-boeing-report-2023-6

Not a good place to go cheap.

 

[Into the Night]

He is responsible for a lot of things- Mostly all good things!

More good than bad, In my opinion.

But, who am I? That is only my personal opinion!

Every president has a scorecard, and Biden's just don't look that bad to me.

In fact, his looks pretty damn good considering all the circumstances, beyond his control even, he has had to face, as the leader of our country.

It seems the Trumptards are focused on all the things that happened beyond Biden's control.

I am just saying, in the end comes an election, and the people will decide who is best to lead the country.

And we will all have to live with those results! And the people's decisions won't be based on just the negative and typical Politically Motivated Rhetoric.

I think the people are ready for just the Facts MAM!

You are hallucinating again, lizard.

 

[T. A. Gardner]

Everyone is suddenly a submarine expert.

I'm no expert on submarines, but I've made a lot of stuff for the military over the years to a variety of specs. Made these cables once that had to be able to go to 3000 feet depth in the ocean. They were used on a remote controlled target for training sonar operators. The electrical pins were set in vitrified glass in a stainless-steel housing and those connectors cost several thousand a pop to buy.

 

[Dutch Uncle]

You are wrong. I am anti-closed shop unions. That is, if you want to join a union go for it. Don't force me to join just because you want to however. I am pro Right to Work. Oh, and

unions are hardly pro safety unless there is some financial gain for them involved.

Who are forced to join, Terry? Do you mean having a part of their paycheck go to the union even though they aren't a member? You think it's okay for a worker to benefit from unions without having to chip in, Terry?

QED You're anti-union.

I know for a fact airline unions are very pro-safety. Either you are lying or you are talking out of your ass, Terry.

 

[Into the Night]

I thought it was an amphibious R2D2...

Heh. Unlike R2D2, who WAS amphibious, this sub has comparatively little brains, isn't shaped quite right, has comparatively little in the way of sensors, and can't maneuver on land as the sub is not amphibious.

 

[Dutch Uncle]

Everyone is suddenly a submarine expert.

All the Trumpers on JPP are experts on everything.

 

[Into Тhe Night]

I'm no expert on submarines, but I've made a lot of stuff for the military over the years to a variety of specs. Made these cables once that had to be able to go to 3000 feet depth in the ocean. They were used on a remote controlled target for training sonar operators. The electrical pins were set in vitrified glass in a stainless-steel housing and those connectors cost several thousand a pop to buy.

3,000 feet is not 10,000 feet. The military never goes as deep as this submersible did because the military has no reason to. Your post is like saying you're qualified to comment on spaceflight because you were a helicopter mechanic.

 

[Guno צְבִי]

imbecile still doesn't get it

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[T. A. Gardner]

Who are forced to join, Terry? Do you mean having a part of their paycheck go to the union even though they aren't a member? You think it's okay for a worker to benefit from unions without having to chip in, Terry?

QED You're anti-union.

Yes, I think workers should have the right to choose not to join, and not pay the dues, and not get the benefits and costs of union membership. For the most part, union members pay is only sufficiently higher than non-union workers to the point where their dues eat up the increase.
Workers who choose not to join can make their own deal with the employer, whether that deal is better or worse than the union one.

 

[Into the Night]

I am imagining here that it was used under the argument that the FAA has ridiculous regulations that have nothing to do with reality....I have heard a lot of that over the years.

The FAA does not regulate shelf life of carbon fiber.

Like any bit of government, the FAA does have it's inanity, but it actually is pretty good compared to many other departments. They actually get industry input before creating a regulation or rule. Most of the regulations concerning aircraft are quite sensible.

 

[floridafan]

Trump has not broken any law. This is not about loyalty. It's about the law (which you still continue to deny).

my guess is that lawyers know far more about the law that you ever will.

 

[Into the Night]

Terry is also anti-union because it cuts into profits and ties up efficiency, such as worker safety, with red tape.

Not about any union, dummy.

 

[Dutch Uncle]

Yes, I think workers should have the right to choose not to join, and not pay the dues, and not get the benefits and costs of union membership. For the most part, union members pay is only sufficiently higher than non-union workers to the point where their dues eat up the increase.
Workers who choose not to join can make their own deal with the employer, whether that deal is better or worse than the union one.

Soooo...now you understand why factories send the blue-collar jobs offshore; management agrees with you. LOL

Terry, you don't have to convince me you're anti-union and pro-management. You don't have to prove to me you are against Freedom of Association. You've already done so many times before.

 

[Into the Night]

This disaster is one more reason why we need government oversight for nonsense like this. If you offer a service to the public, then you should be required to abide by strict safety regulations.

What government??? The sub wreck is in international waters! It was 'tested' in international waters! It was operating in international waters!

I'm still waiting for Trump and the Republicans to claim that water pressure is "fake science."

Why?

 

[Into the Night]

Regulations are your friends. They are what would have prevented this disaster. The ownership society will allow you to die or be in danger for profits. You are a rightys and read righty crap. That is why you hear about the onerous regulations and why the Repubs are so happy to slash your protections for more profits,

What government?? They were operating in international waters! The 'federal' government has no jurisdiction there!

 

[Into Тhe Night]

What government?? They were operating in international waters!

I assume that this vessel was built in the US. Also, you can't commit crimes in international waters and expect to get away with it.