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- Thread starter Guno צְבִי
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Agreed. Same with movies. Big screen TVs are the norm for middle class American and a little bit below. On layaway, they can be bought for six months worth of bimonthly movie tickets for two plus drinks and treats. After that, it's all gain. Better seats, better food, all friends, no assholes. Works for both sports and all other entertainment.
This is not the norm for most of the global population. A fact too many Americans who never traveled much outside of our country fail to understand. I love my life. I love my wife. I love my country. I'll fight to keep it from violent nutjobs. My first lines of defense are my nation and State, then County and cities/towns. After that, I'm prepared to stop such assholes from taking over our nation.
The fucking morons who scream about burning it all down are either idiots or insane. Either way, I support our heroes in blue to stop them with lethal force when necessary. Armed attacks on our government are one of those situations.
To save lives, I'd recommend SWAT snipers to take down all the leaders and immediate subordinates rather than open up with a machine gun. Current weapons, powder loads and bullets can be designed to impact with lethal force upon a skull and then expend all of its energy in place rather than pass through and hurt someone else.
Taking down the top leaders can be expected, but if the second, or even third level, of command, is immediately neutralized, it can be demoralizing for ill-trained, overweight, paintball enthusiasts who are too stupid to think for themselves. The attack would collapse with a minimum loss of life.
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Life is Golden
The Sage
Right?!? You can see more of the Titanic by watching a Youtube. Crazy!
Althea
Althea told me...
I see it every day. Don't you?
Into the Night
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Carbon fiber doesn't have a shelf life, and Boeing doesn't sell surplus anything anymore.
Into the Night
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Carbon fiber is not capable of this kind of stress. The sub suffered damage in it's dive in the Bahamas (13100 feet?) and was 'repaired'. That was the only time the sub had been that deep before it's fatal dive to the Titanic. Carbon fiber is stronger than steel in tensile strength, but not in compressive or shear strength, as is required for a submarine.
Into the Night
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Yes. I am sure. Carbon fiber does not weaken with age.
It can be damaged by UV exposure or exposure to some chemicals. Some resins used with carbon fiber contain UV blockers for this reason. The masts of some racing yachts are made of carbon fiber and use this type of resin, since the material is exposed to sunlight for long periods. Some aircraft use components made of carbon fiber that also uses UV blockers. Further, these aircraft are painted with special primers before the color coat that is designed to completely block UV.
The material is difficult to work with due to it's 'greasy' nature (resin does not soak in well). I have worked with it myself for some aircraft parts. The stuff is expensive as well.
In most cases, for aircraft, E glass works just fine so long as there is an underlying structure. If not, S glass is required at a minimum. Carbon fiber can be used instead of S glass IF and only if the structure is under tensile load. Otherwise, it must be treated as if it were E glass.
Boeing does not sell surplus items.
In the case of being used as the pressure hull of a submarine, this is a BAD idea. It is weak in compressive and shear strength. It MIGHT last a deep dive or two, but tiny fractures will build into the structure until eventual failure. If at depth, that failure will be catastrophic compressive failure (which the Titan experienced). All aboard will be dead in literally milliseconds.
The sad part is, they were warned about just exactly this type of failure in 2018, and chose to ignore the warning.
Ironically enough, those people within the stern of the Titanic were crushed in just the same way as the stern descended to the bottom. It is the reason the stern debris is so scattered over a large area, while the bow half is largely intact (it slowly filled with seawater as it sank). Once the keel broke, the bow was already full of water and had been abandoned. The stern, with it's interior now open to the sea, sank quickly, with air pockets in much of it. Those air pockets had people in them. They crushed in just the same way as the Titan did as the stern sank.
The cause of the Titanic accident was due to several factors, including arrogance by the captain, sailing at full steam into a known ice field at night in calm sea conditions (all other ships in the area had stopped for the night); and a last second decision by the 1st officer on duty to try to port around the iceberg instead of hitting it dead on, resulting in 6 watertight compartments compromised instead of one. There was no way to avoid it. Contributing factors were a lack of binoculars for the lookouts, the iceberg itself, the calm and clear conditions masking any wave action against icebergs, and the fact that Titanic was a steamship that had stopped her engines, resulting in a loud venting of steam for about an hour, making it difficult for any crew to communicate and coordinate life boat handling. Life boat deployment was further hampered by the 5.6 degree list that had developed, and the lack of lifeboat drill and training, and the extreme cold temperature of the water, and the time of the accident (1140 pm, local time) when passengers were largely asleep.
Another chapter in the tragedy of the Titanic. What's left of the sub is on the ocean floor along with the rest of the Titanic debris field.
Just death, Arbie. I don't hate. Killing the enemies of our nation should be done with cold blooded efficiency. A lack of emotion. Just a simple shot through their brain basket. It's efficient and humane. Best for everyone.
Geeko Sportivo
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NO. What I see is Trump and his cult blame Biden for everything under the sun, no matter what he does or does not do, no matter what, just to try and score political points.
It's the same ole Pygmalion Theory, that because you hate Democrats no Democrat can ever do anything right and so therefore, everything a Democrat president ever will ever do is WRONG!
Well, let me tell you, Democrats are not falling for that, and neither are the Independents that actually makes the difference in all of our elections today.
SO you Disgruntled Republicans that hate Democrats keep harping away about Biden, no matter what he does or doesn't do, as if you think you can ultimately convince the Independents to see it your way.
So let's not argue about it, and just go and vote. THE PEOPLE WILL DECIDE WHO THEY THINK IS BEST TO RUN THIS COUNTRY.
Everybody in the race has to speak for themselves at some point, and that is what counts, and that is what the people will have to ultimately judge them by. All of our cheerleading, booing, and yea-ing in the background, just becomes he said/she said spaghetti on the wall.
But thanks for your opinion! The thing is, everybody has one! EVERYBODY!
See you on Poll Day!
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Tinkerpeach
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So even though Biden is president he’s not responsible for anything?
floridafan
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You have never held trump responsible for anything. Every mis step, every mistake, every lie, every crime is never his fault, its always someone else to blame.
Tinkerpeach
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I have no problem holding Trump responsible for anything he’s done
I have no loyalty to him
floridafan
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Thats the point, you dont think he has every done anything wrong. Its always someone else's fault.
Guno צְבִי
We fight, We win, Am Yisrael Chai
It has been found that the original processing characteristics of G Sized carbon fiber will essentially remain constant for at least one year from the date of manufacture
Geeko Sportivo
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He is responsible for a lot of things- Mostly all good things!
More good than bad, In my opinion.
But, who am I? That is only my personal opinion!
Every president has a scorecard, and Biden's just don't look that bad to me.
In fact, his looks pretty damn good considering all the circumstances, beyond his control even, he has had to face, as the leader of our country.
It seems the Trumptards are focused on all the things that happened beyond Biden's control.
I am just saying, in the end comes an election, and the people will decide who is best to lead the country.
And we will all have to live with those results! And the people's decisions won't be based on just the negative and typical Politically Motivated Rhetoric.
I think the people are ready for just the Facts MAM!
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