Startup says battery swapping your EV faster than filling your car up with gas

Joe Capitalist said:
Startup Ample says battery swapping could be faster than filling your car up with gas.
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See how Ample's next-gen station could 'charge' your EV with a simple, automated swap.*

Battery swapping — taking an electric vehicle battery out of the car once it's out of charge, and replacing it with a fully charged battery — isn't a brand new concept, and has had a challenging journey over the past several years. But the idea of getting your electric car a full "charge" in just a matter of minutes has gotten swapping some more recent momentum.
Charging an electric car can take a while, depending on the type of charger a driver uses. In your own garage with a standard plug, or maybe at your office, it might take 8 hours. At faster plugs out in public, you might be waiting at least 20 minutes with a Level 3 charger, or maybe an hour or two with a Level 2. Regardless, it's no question that charging currently takes a little bit longer than fueling up a gas-powered car at a gas station.*
That's where battery swapping could come into play, and startup Ample is eager to get automakers on board with the idea. It'd essentially mean a driver buys an electric vehicle but subscribes to the battery, Ample CEO Khaled Hassounah told Insider.
The upfront cost of a new EV (relatively high, on average) could be brought down if a buyer only has to pay for the vehicle itself, and not the pricey battery.
EV battery swapping infrastructure could be built in a matter of days.
That's compared with the weeks or even months of building, electrical, and utility work that's necessary to get a traditional charging station in the ground, especially fast charging. Ample says its stations could be built in 3 days and are modular, enabling multiple stations to be stacked together so multiple cars can swap at the same time.
Drivers pull up and park their EV inside the Ample station.
Ample recently announced a partnership with EV startup Fisker, and other automakers are starting to consider the offering for their customers, too. But the idea has largely only gained early traction outside of the US so far.
On Ample's app, a driver starts the swap.
The swap itself can be done autonomously.*
The Ample battery swapping platform rises, and the driver can hop out of the car.
On first thought, battery swapping seems best for a ride-sharing application, and Ample has been working on getting Uber drivers in EVs equipped for swapping (it'd mean drivers don't have to spend precious road time at charging stations). But Ample has always had its eye on swapping possibilities with the average consumer, and now, it's targeting last-mile delivery trucks, too.
The EV is positioned in the right spot that aligns with the swapping equipment.
Equipment autonomously navigates to under the EV, where the battery is.
The station removes the existing battery and swaps it out for a new one.
The spent batteries that are collected are then racked, monitored, charged, and eventually, swapped into another EV.
The driver pulls out of the station in five minutes and drives off with a whole new battery and full charge.

MAGA wets panties
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% minutes? I doubt it
 
Lionfish said:
Teen girls cannot even figure out how to change batteries in their vibrators, hence rechargeable ones. The only way I see EV's working, is magnetic charging rails buried in a special lane on a highway and that itself presents a whole new set of issues.

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We'll probably end up with life-size slot cars before they figure out how to do this the best way.

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Yakuda said:
How long does a charge last? How long to recharge the battery?
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Depends on how hard you use them during the day. The ones we had (at one of the companies I worked for) lost the power to lift heavy loads toward the end of the day, and required charging all night long.

Even the golf cart I drive at night at the campground needs charged all day long or it dies by morning. We are asked not to drive the day shift carts because they die before the crews complete their day's activities.
 
Let's see how this goes when people knowing that their battery is bad and worthless, use it as a means to get a new battery...

Given batteries cost tens of thousands of dollars, this potentially opens the company doing swaps up to tens, if not hundreds of millions, in worthless batteries. That doesn't include lawsuits where the swapped person's battery doesn't perform as advertised and they sue over some loss of money as a result... "I didn't make my appointment to do a million dollar deal..."

It's just another asinine stupidity of battery cars.
 
Nordberg said:
There are a huge amount of ICEs that are heavier than EVs. That is nothing. Americans love their huge vehicles.
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False equivalence. Battery cars are heavier simply because of the battery. For any car of a particular power, load capacity, etc., rating the battery car will be heavier.

 
T. A. Gardner said:
False equivalence. Battery cars are heavier simply because of the battery. For any car of a particular power, load capacity, etc., rating the battery car will be heavier.

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False equivalency? The weight is decided on one thing, how many pounds they weigh. The ICEs are the heaviest cars on the road, by far.
 
Joe Capitalist said:
How heavy are cars? Car repair shops jack them up and down all day long with no problem.
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Do you realize where the batteries are in EVs ?
They are below the floorboards, you have to remove the interior of the car to get at them.
Unless you are going to use smaller batteries located under a hood or in a trunk.

Does this look swappable ?

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Celticguy said:
Do you realize where the batteries are in EVs ?
They are below the floorboards, you have to remove the interior of the car to get at them.
Unless you are going to use smaller batteries located under a hood or in a trunk.

Does this look swappable ?

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You're not really very smart, are you ColicGuy. The EV has to be designed to have a swappable battery.

Five surgeons were discussing which were the best patients on which to operate.
The first surgeon said, "I like to see accountants on my operating table, because when you open them up everything inside is numbered."
The second surgeon responded, "You should try electricians! Everything inside them is color coded."
The third surgeon said, "I really think librarians are the best. Everything inside them is in alphabetical order."
The fourth surgeon chimed in, "You know, I like construction workers...they always understand if you have a few parts left over in the end or if the job takes longer than you said it would."
But the fifth surgeon shut them all up with this observation, "You're all wrong. Republiclowns politicians are the easiest to operate on. There's no guts, no heart, no spine and the head and ass are interchangeable"
 
Joe Capitalist said:
You're not really very smart, are you ColicGuy. The EV has to be designed to have a swappable battery.

Five surgeons were discussing which were the best patients on which to operate.
The first surgeon said, "I like to see accountants on my operating table, because when you open them up everything inside is numbered."
The second surgeon responded, "You should try electricians! Everything inside them is color coded."
The third surgeon said, "I really think librarians are the best. Everything inside them is in alphabetical order."
The fourth surgeon chimed in, "You know, I like construction workers...they always understand if you have a few parts left over in the end or if the job takes longer than you said it would."
But the fifth surgeon shut them all up with this observation, "You're all wrong. Republiclowns politicians are the easiest to operate on. There's no guts, no heart, no spine and the head and ass are interchangeable"
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So a battery with greatly reduced range then as I pointed out.
I don't think people will be OK with a range of a hundred miles or less.
 
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