Startup says battery swapping your EV faster than filling your car up with gas

Walt said:
Robots at Amazon fulfillment warehouses have been doing just that for over a decade, so we are over a decade into doing that. The question is how we would do it with the more powerful car EV batteries, which are also less standardized, and have more commercial questions. The ideas are being tested now, not decades from now.
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A robot is not a car, dude.
 
RB 60 said:
Maintenance, as in setting the lift pads, lifting the car, disassembling, removal, inspect, clean, reinstall, assembly,
lower car, electrical test, backing car out and taking test drive.. That's your battery car, and small one at that.
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And refueling IS maintenance of a car. He's trying a semantics fallacy.
 
Walt said:
That is the way you replace a car battery meant to be replaced as maintenance. You go through complex steps to replace oil, because that too is meant as maintenance. If you are replacing a battery that is meant to be replaced as refueling, it will be designed to be very simple, much like refueling gasoline does not require you to remove the gas tank from the car.

Only with even moderate intelligence would have figured that out. I am not saying you have below average intelligence, but you clearly are telling us you have below average intelligence.
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So removing the 'fuel tank' is equivalent to not removing 'the fuel tank'. Paradox.
 
Joe Capitalist said:
Methinks the engineers are smart enough to make it work without losing range. I suspect you're neither a mechanical nor electrical engineer so you have no idea what the constraints would be.
Case closed.
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So you admit you are not an engineer, but can ignore mechanical and electrical engineering to accomplish this twit dream. I am both a mechanical and an electrical engineer (among other things). I know what the constraints are.

The idea is impractical.
 
Into the Night said:
The battery packs are removable without doing anything to the interior. They drop out the bottom. You have to disconnect the coolant lines though. After connecting the new pack, you have to refill that coolant system again.
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thx for the insight.

still doesn't seem quick, easy or cheap.
 
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Buying EVs whilst the technology is changing so much is akin to Betamax v VHS. Despite Betamax being superior it became a dead duck virtually overnight except for highly specialised uses like motion pictures. I cannot believe that many EVs will have a resale value in several years time.

China Just Killed the Future of Electric Cars:
 
serendipity said:
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Buying EVs whilst the technology is changing so much is akin to Betamax v VHS. Despite Betamax being superior it became a dead duck virtually overnight except for highly specialised uses like motion pictures. I cannot believe that many EVs will have a resale value in several years time.

China Just Killed the Future of Electric Cars:
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Our OverLords intend to not leave the choice to us.
 
serendipity said:
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Buying EVs whilst the technology is changing so much is akin to Betamax v VHS. Despite Betamax being superior it became a dead duck virtually overnight except for highly specialised uses like motion pictures. I cannot believe that many EVs will have a resale value in several years time.

China Just Killed the Future of Electric Cars:
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Everybody is working on that.
 
ExpressLane said:
A Tesla Model Y has a 771 kg (1,700 pound) battery. That is a lot of weight to just swap out with any kind of speed.
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Shipping containers usually weigh between 10,000 and 20,000 kilograms(22,000 and 44,000 pounds) and are usually swapped in less than a minute. Trailers weigh about the same, include electrical and break connections, and are swapped in less than a minute. Train cars weigh much more, have all sorts of connections, and their swapping is done in less than a minute by automation.

The batteries for warehouse and port robots are swapped in less than a minute. Some of those robots are literally trucks, with batteries over a ton in weight.

I could go on and on, but the fact is that it is very possible.
 
serendipity said:
You're such an imbecile, you've missed the whole fucking point of the video!! No doubt you'll understand well enough when your expensive EV is worth shit in a couple of years.
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Every car loses a major chunk of value when you drive it off the lot. Cars are usually not good investments. It is just plain stupid to sell a car "before it loses its value", because that value will be worth more to you, than you can get by selling it. Keep the car as long as it is not too annoying to keep. That is the smartest investment.

That being said, there are rare cars that buck the trend. "Serendipity" points out that current EV's might be very rare in a couple of years, so might actually be worth more than you paid for them.
 
Celticguy said:
thx for the insight.

still doesn't seem quick, easy or cheap.
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It is none of those. Your average driver is not capable of basically replacing the bottom half of their, EV, and it's ridiculously ignorant to claim it will be done as quickly as filling their gas tanks.
 
Walt said:
Every car loses a major chunk of value when you drive it off the lot. Cars are usually not good investments. It is just plain stupid to sell a car "before it loses its value", because that value will be worth more to you, than you can get by selling it. Keep the car as long as it is not too annoying to keep. That is the smartest investment.

That being said, there are rare cars that buck the trend. "Serendipity" points out that current EV's might be very rare in a couple of years, so might actually be worth more than you paid for them.
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Depends on the car; I sold my Viper for thousands more than I paid for it.
 
Grokmaster said:
Depends on the car; I sold my Viper for thousands more than I paid for it.
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You really did not read the whole post. If it is a rare car, that would be the one exception. So if you had an original EV, that will probably go up in value over the decades.

That being said, collectables usually do not go up in value as well as other investments.
 
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