"Spanking For Jesus"?? OMG!

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Darla said:
You are repeating the same nonsense over and over without addressing my posts at all.

Teaching women from birth that the man has "absolute power" over her, and needs to "enforce" that power through discipline "including but not limited to" "spankings" with wooden paddles, is not a "kink".

You guys here all get this when we are talking about the Muslims, but put a white christian face on it and all of a sudden it's 50 shades of grey.

I call it 50 shades of your typical horseshit.
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not all women are taught from birth that men have absolute power over them. some are and that is too many, but it is not just 'christians' that teach this.

only when it is between consenting adults is it alright and none of the governments concern or yours. sometimes the 'punishment' is performed by the wife and not the husband. how do you feel about that?
 
Don Quixote said:
not all women are taught from birth that men have absolute power over them. some are and that is too many, but it is not just 'christians' that teach this.

only when it is between consenting adults is it alright and none of the governments concern or yours. sometimes the 'punishment' is performed by the wife and not the husband. how do you feel about that?
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I don't think Darla would say all women are taught from birth that men have control over them; and I don't think Darla has objections to consenting adults doing whatever they want to do; but in the context of this discussion, people in this particular faith are taught that the man is dominant, that he should spank the wife, and therefore the "spanking" is not between consenting adults. And that is the point - when you are forced by your religion to take a beating, that is not "kink" that is coercion and abuse.

(apologize for interpreting for Darla; she can correct anything I've said wrong when she is back on).
 
tekkychick said:
I don't think Darla would say all women are taught from birth that men have control over them; and I don't think Darla has objections to consenting adults doing whatever they want to do; but in the context of this discussion, people in this particular faith are taught that the man is dominant, that he should spank the wife, and therefore the "spanking" is not between consenting adults. And that is the point - when you are forced by your religion to take a beating, that is not "kink" that is coercion and abuse.

(apologize for interpreting for Darla; she can correct anything I've said wrong when she is back on).
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Thanks, Don is a really nice guy, I believe he mis-interpreted Darla's point entirely.
 
tekkychick said:
I don't think Darla would say all women are taught from birth that men have control over them; and I don't think Darla has objections to consenting adults doing whatever they want to do; but in the context of this discussion, people in this particular faith are taught that the man is dominant, that he should spank the wife, and therefore the "spanking" is not between consenting adults. And that is the point - when you are forced by your religion to take a beating, that is not "kink" that is coercion and abuse.

(apologize for interpreting for Darla; she can correct anything I've said wrong when she is back on).
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i agree totally, thanks.

Also, I do think Darla would add that she is not about to be drawn into a detailed conversation about sexual practices and what she thinks if the man does this to to the woman, and what she thinks if the woman does this other thing to the man, and...just make sure both hands are on the keyboard people! She's definitely not interested in hearing the details. Okay thanks!
 
Darla said:
Teaching women from birth that the man has "absolute power" over her, and needs to "enforce" that power through discipline "including but not limited to" "spankings" with wooden paddles, is not a "kink".
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But it is a perversion of what the Bible says to control women, no Christian church I know of would have a rule like that. I cherish my wife, we are going on 25 years together, 20 married, and yes it did take me that long to prove I was worthy, which of course I am not, but glad she didn't see it.
 
Rune said:
Dude, really, you don't get this? The man is using religion to force HIS kink on a woman who may hate it, but is submitting for religious reasons.

You are truly incorrect. I realise Darla is somewhat of an extreme feminist but that doesn't mean she is automatically incorrect.

You are way too smart for this. Admit you were wrong and let's move on.
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No where does it insist that a woman suffer beatings from her husband for not being submissive, submissive does not mean slave, or that they should do as they are told. It's more of a respect for God that they are submissive to their husbands role as leader of the household. The husbands role is to treat the woman as Christ did the church in other words be willing to die to protect her. I hope that does not sound chauvinistic
 
This thread is starting to remind me of not too long ago when I made a comment about oral sex. It was in the middle of a "you give blow jobs" "no you give them!" "you love sucking...blah blah" back and forth between a bunch of the guys here. And I said that if the women in their lives ever found out how degrading sucking c*ck is, they would never get head again. Well, of course this was misinterpreted and the Batsignal went out. ( I think this particular batsignal is shaped like a penis though). I was swarmed by men outraged that I was trying to talk women out of giving blow jobs! Liberal men, conservative men, they were all up in arms, and what was startling was that they all found out about my post within five minutes of my making it. Which convinces me there is some sort of underground "protect the blow jobs" movement.

Anyway, of course I had said no such thing, I was remarking on how degrading THEY apparently viewed the act...and those who performed it. And how telling that was.

Same thing here. OMG there is a feminist on the internet trying to pass a law against consensual spankings!

Hilarious.

I think I made my points in my exchange with Damo, and I will let them stand.
 
tekkychick said:
In this case - it doesn't seem like people are "choosing" it - they are being ordered to do it by their religion. HUGE difference
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Like you they have religious freedom. Millions of Christians live without this kink, they could take that option. If they want out of the relationship we should help them get out, but the assumption that any people who choose to live this way are somehow in the wrong is, IMO, a poor assumption.
 
Rune said:
Dude, really, you don't get this? The man is using religion to force HIS kink on a woman who may hate it, but is submitting for religious reasons.

You are truly incorrect. I realise Darla is somewhat of an extreme feminist but that doesn't mean she is automatically incorrect.

You are way too smart for this. Admit you were wrong and let's move on.
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First nobody said she was "absolutely" incorrect, you are arguing a straw man there. I simply pointed out that people who choose to live this way should be allowed to live this way, I even noted during the conversation that we need to beef up laws to help women who want out of such situations.

The reality still exists that some people would choose this type of life willingly, and I don't believe that we should interfere in such a choice.
 
Damocles said:
The reality still exists that some people would choose this type of life willingly, and I don't believe that we should interfere in such a choice.
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No one is saying to interfere if someone truly chooses it. We are arguing that this isn't a true choice in this case. Because the religion is pushing it, not the couple's preferences.
 
tekkychick said:
No one is saying to interfere if someone truly chooses it. We are arguing that this isn't a true choice in this case. Because the religion is pushing it, not the couple's preferences.
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And I am saying that you cannot know if they have chosen it or not based on that, all you have is assumption based on your own preference.
 
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