Leonthecat
Racism Watchdog
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Just another self absorbed Trumptard psychopath.
We have several here. I'm sure you noticed.
Something wonderful is happening. And liberals are furious about it.
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Of little to no consequence.
Just another self absorbed Trumptard psychopath.
We have several here. I'm sure you noticed.
Eagle_Eye
Well-known member
Funny Bowel you never worried about the US debt during the 8 years of Obama, why is that? Oh liberal debt is better than conservative debt. GOT IT.
Leonthecat
Racism Watchdog
Isn't the debt and deficit spending an existential cornerstone of conservative principals, Grampy?
Exactly, but that’s only when there is a black man in office with a D behind his name.
Darth Omar
Russian asset
Debt is never a good thing but let’s add a little historical perspective.
Obama had the stimulus spending bonanza that began shortly after he came into office. I wasn’t here at the time but I’m confident there wasn’t a peep from Owl or other JPP lefties about the debt lol.
Regarding the economy generally, the recovery began in 2009, prior to the stimulus. Obama got help from the Federal Reserve and there’s nothing wrong with that—except for the fact Obama can’t take credit for Federal Reserve actions. Another point that gets lost is that market economies rebound by their very nature: when Obama came into office the economy was at rock bottom and there was only one way for it to go—it went up.
But subtract the Feds actions and the only conclusion one can fairly draw is that Obama’s *policies* led to the weakest recovery of the last 50 years or better. We could have had the ‘Trump economy’ well before the end of Obama’s first term—but for Obama’s policies.
That Obama would try and take credit for it now is both laughable and predictable.
So , you must be really angry at Trump helping bail out the farmers because of his tariffs.
If Obama and Congress hadn’t bailed out industries where do you think we would be today?
Driving a Ford.
Darth Omar
Russian asset
He didn’t bail out an industry—he bailed out weak competitors.
But I’ll grant it’s an interesting question.
Eagle_Eye
Well-known member
Then why weren't you lefties whining about the debt under Obama? Debt is either good or bad, you can't have it both ways.
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MAGA MAN
Let's go Brandon!
Leon The Pussy is a troll- ignore him.
Eagle_Eye
Well-known member
In reality he bailed out the unions that would have lost if their gravy train companies had folded.
Darth Omar
Russian asset
Debt is bad lol.
But, Trump inherited a bunch of it from his immediate predecessors. He’s only into his second year of office and he [his policies, actually] deserves a chance to alleviate it. It’s not going to go away over night. The new tax laws are just now beginning to take effect, for example.
I’ll give it another year, at least, before I’ll get on him about it.
Eagle_Eye
Well-known member
I'm not getting on Trump for the debt the lefties are. In fact the debt dropped 100 billion in Trumps first year. But the left will give the credit to Obama.
Darth Omar
Russian asset
I was trying not to be ‘situational’ about debt lol.
Trump’s approach is right: get the economy fired up first then go after the debt. If more people are working that means there are less people on food stamps and government assistance. At some point spending will need to be addressed but not before the economy has had time to fully recover.
Sorry, I disagree, if you think recovery was slow with the bailout, it would have been no recovery without it. It’s hilarious us you all think recovery was slow under Obama but humming along under Trump when statistics show that isn’t true.
Darth Omar
Russian asset
What’s hilarious is a president trying to claim the economy of the next president—two years after leaving office lol!
I knew Obama wouldn’t stay gone, btw. The subtle narcissist that he is.
It started under Obama, but your so dishonest you won’t give him credit, all you Trumpeteers cried about the economy till it became Trump’s, then suddenly it became amazing. It just shows how bad your cranial inversion is.
Darth Omar
Russian asset
Take Obama out of the equation.
We have a market economy that crashes and it hits rock bottom. *Left on its own* the economy is going to recover to whatever extent. Presidents have a limited ability to affect the economy. It’s a great partisan talking point, but Bush II didn’t single handedly cause the Great Recession lol. Bush has plenty of help from democrats and from factors beyond anyone’s control.
As mentioned, Obama got help from the Feds. Which is fine, the Feds need to step in from time to time—but Obama can’t take credit for actions on the Feds part. Obama and congress get credit for the stimulus [assuming one thinks stimulus bills are a good thing] but it’s goofy to think a ten year old stimulus package is helping Trump’s economy lol.
And whatever benefit derived from the stimulus spending was mitigated by Obama’s addiction to regulatory measures. That’s why the recovery was so sluggish—it should have rebounded much faster. The media was doing its best to tell people how well they were doing in Obama’s economy but many voters weren’t buying it.
It’s a big reason Trump won the election.
Prison wouldn't bother me one bit. They can put me in prison, torture me, even kill me. I'll have the last laugh. I'll be in Heaven with my Father. And YOU will still be on your way to the lake of fire. You poor fool.
Lol, you can’t take Obama out of the equation. His policies started the recovery, now Trumps trying to wreck it. That’s what Republicans do.