Should we wall off the beaches?

true......its the demmycrats who live farther away from the actual border that advocate for open borders........

CALIF with the LARGEST immigrant population AND the largest population of Hispanics are the ones farthest away from the border?

WTF kind of map are you people using?
 
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No, the water is a big enough deterrent. Again, a wall doesn't have to be perfect or impenetrable.

Lots of illegals come by boat. Most come though entry points by the truckload. We all have read stories about truckloads pulled over. The vast majority get through. Wall does not stop them.
 
And that's what pisses me off about Trump.
It's totally unproductive to say you want a wall to keep out illegals because they are rapists and diseased gang members. It gives dims the impetus to want open borders, because it's anti demagoguery , not solve the problem.
Ask your political opponents why we already have walls. If they're honest they'd have to answer it's to keep out illegals.
He only hurts himself with that kind of talk.
Just point out that we already have walls for the purpose to keep out illegals, it's not effective enough so we need a border wall. Oh, and give me one and I'll do something good for the DACA's.
What's so hard about that?
No one can trust Trump.

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Lots of illegals come by boat. Most come though entry points by the truckload. We all have read stories about truckloads pulled over. The vast majority get through. Wall does not stop them.

Wall just deters most of them. The rest we can arrest and then send back, or they can live at your house.
 
I think he wants both. But as a rarity, I actually agree with you that he wants the fight. He relishes it.
I've more than one intelligent, successful, well educated Trump supporter tell me that's the main reason they like him as president, because he's a fighter.

Being able to fight well (something I dispute that Rump is good at) is not to be confused with liking to fight. One of the biggest skills of fighting is knowing when to fight and when not to fight, and only fighting when it is important. Fighting loses its value when you do it for the sake of fighting. When you keep trying to prove how tough you are, people eventually wake up. When you constantly challenge everyone and anyone you lose creditability and ultimately you are not a good fighter.

Nobody cares when Trump calls an ex-employee a name, but you can dam sure believe that when Obama calls someone out, people's ears would perk up.

I used to work in front of a particular Judge every day, in the beginning, I walked around in fear he was going to yell at me.

By the third week, I specifically remember sitting at my table in the courtroom writing out some changes on a plea deal, the judge was yelling, I looked at another attorney and asked, "What is he yelling about?" The answer was that he was yelling at me, I just shrugged and continued writing. I no longer cared what or who this fool was saying. I stayed assigned to that courtroom for over a year and the judge gave me a glowing recommendation. I noticed that nobody paid him any attention, when he went on the attack. Just let him act a fool and ignore it.

A terrible attorney I knew challenged him in the next election and won.
 
Being able to fight well (something I dispute that Rump is good at) is not to be confused with liking to fight. One of the biggest skills of fighting is knowing when to fight and when not to fight, and only fighting when it is important. Fighting loses its value when you do it for the sake of fighting. When you keep trying to prove how tough you are, people eventually wake up. When you constantly challenge everyone and anyone you lose creditability and ultimately you are not a good fighter.

Nobody cares when Trump calls an ex-employee a name, but you can dam sure believe that when Obama calls someone out, people's ears would perk up.

I used to work in front of a particular Judge every day, in the beginning, I walked around in fear he was going to yell at me.

By the third week, I specifically remember sitting at my table in the courtroom writing out some changes on a plea deal, the judge was yelling, I looked at another attorney and asked, "What is he yelling about?" The answer was that he was yelling at me, I just shrugged and continued writing. I no longer cared what or who this fool was saying. I stayed assigned to that courtroom for over a year and the judge gave me a glowing recommendation. I noticed that nobody paid him any attention, when he went on the attack. Just let him act a fool and ignore it.
It’s my philosophy about this forum.
 
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