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Should We Change The Plaque On The Statue Of Liberty To Reflect Our Current Policy???
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It was added later.
Irish Exit
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And we went out into the community to raise the money to put it up.
We didn't tax anybody to do it.
The American people chipped in and paid for it.
You are entitled to your view, but so are all of we who like it.
I doubt you raised any money for its pedestal and I never said you weren't entitled to your view.
It was added later.
I assumed it was on the plaque (Should We Change The Plaque On The Statue Of Liberty To Reflect Our Current Policy???). Isn't it?
Irish Exit
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I assumed it was on the plaque (Should We Change The Plaque On The Statue Of Liberty To Reflect Our Current Policy???). Isn't it?
No it is in the pedestal.
PoliTalker
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It was added later.
It was written before the Statue went up.
It was written for the Statue Pedestal it is displayed on.
It is where it belongs.
No it is in the pedestal.
Ah. What is on the plaque?
PoliTalker
Diversity Makes Greatness
I doubt you raised any money for its pedestal and I never said you weren't entitled to your view.
Correct on both accounts. And that was a great game between the Dolphins and the Colts.
Irish Exit
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PoliTalker
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Hello iolo,
It's a poem that embarrasses our immigrant-haters:
"Not like the brazen giant of Greek fame,
With conquering limbs astride from land to land;
Here at our sea-washed, sunset gates shall stand
A mighty woman with a torch, whose flame
Is the imprisoned lightning, and her name
MOTHER OF EXILES. From her beacon-hand
Glows world-wide welcome; her mild eyes command
The air-bridged harbor that twin cities frame.
"Keep, ancient lands, your storied pomp!" cries she
With silent lips. "Give me your tired, your poor,
Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me,
I lift my lamp beside the golden door!" "
Ah. What is on the plaque?
It's a poem that embarrasses our immigrant-haters:
"Not like the brazen giant of Greek fame,
With conquering limbs astride from land to land;
Here at our sea-washed, sunset gates shall stand
A mighty woman with a torch, whose flame
Is the imprisoned lightning, and her name
MOTHER OF EXILES. From her beacon-hand
Glows world-wide welcome; her mild eyes command
The air-bridged harbor that twin cities frame.
"Keep, ancient lands, your storied pomp!" cries she
With silent lips. "Give me your tired, your poor,
Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me,
I lift my lamp beside the golden door!" "
Irish Exit
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It was written before the Statue went up.
It was written for the Statue Pedestal it is displayed on.
It is where it belongs.
The why did you raise an issue by starting a thread about an issue nobody had otherwise debated if you are not open to ideas that are different than same shit different day?
I thought that's what we were talking about.
PoliTalker
Diversity Makes Greatness
The why did you raise an issue by starting a thread about an issue nobody had otherwise debated if you are not open to ideas that are different than same shit different day?
I wondered if the plaque is bothersome for Trump Bubble people. It kind of flies in the face of everything they want to do.
hvilleherb
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Hi Herb,
We created the gangs with our drug laws.
We gave them power by handing over all of the profits of that market to the black market.
We could have completely eliminated all of their drug profits by making all drugs legal. Tax them and use to proceeds to set up rehab centers.
That's a whole lot cheaper than courts cops and prisons. A lot less government spending, too.
And more effective at fighting drug abuse.
We could make drugs safer and lessen the impacts of drug abuse on our society by taking a whole different approach that cuts off the profits from drug gangs.
Great, another liberal who want to legalize drugs so our nation's problems with drugs gets even worse.
Wouldn't it be ironic of Trump decided it should be sold to Germany?
Oh.
How about this.
He makes a deal with Putin.
Or KIM!
It was originally a Muslim woman France made to give to Egypt, but they did not want it.
Dummy, we allow more immigrants into this country than any other country in the world.
These are the immigrants that come here legally. Do you know what the word legal means.
There is no country that allows illegal immigration.
12 million immigrants passed through Ellis Island.
They went through a process before entering the United States. They were subject to a physical and mental exam to ensure they were fit to enter the country.
Ellis Island in the 1920s was famous for deportations. In the 1920s federal laws ended the open door immigration policy.
Your opinion to change the statute of liberty plaque is 100 years too late.
These are the immigrants that come here legally. Do you know what the word legal means.
There is no country that allows illegal immigration.
12 million immigrants passed through Ellis Island.
They went through a process before entering the United States. They were subject to a physical and mental exam to ensure they were fit to enter the country.
Ellis Island in the 1920s was famous for deportations. In the 1920s federal laws ended the open door immigration policy.
Your opinion to change the statute of liberty plaque is 100 years too late.
It was originally a Muslim woman France made to give to Egypt, but they did not want it.
The author of the poem was Emma Lazarus and she was a Jewess.
PoliTalker
Diversity Makes Greatness
Hello hvilleherb,
You are correct I am in favor of legalizing all recreational drugs. You are incorrect as to the reason I hold this view.
I hold my view that all drugs should be legalized so that our nation's drug problems will be dealt with effectively and thus greatly reduced. I wish to end all the needless deaths, killings and the tremendous cost of dealing with drug abuse in America. Reagan announced his 'war on drugs' decades ago. It was a huge failure. All it did was fill our prisons and cost us a lot of money to lock a lot of people up. Our drug problem is as bad as ever. Even big pharma has gotten in on the act and is now profiting from all the death just as much as the gangs are.
Legalizing all drugs, taxing their legal sales, and using the money to pay for rehab is the smart approach.
Obviously, calling drug abuse a 'crime' and locking people up for it is not the answer. People who abuse drugs are not thinking clearly. They are not logical enough to say a) if I abuse drugs I stand a big chance of getting locked up for a very long time, so b) I shouldn't abuse drugs. Those are the thoughts of a rational person. The individual who abuses drugs doesn't think like that. Their lives suck. They are distraught. They turn to drugs for relief of their problems. Nobody makes a conscious decision that: 'Hey. I know. I should wreck my life with drugs! Yeah. That seems like a great idea. Nothing to lose doing that! Oh, but if I do that I might get locked up, so I shouldn't.' That's ridiculous. People don't think like that. Their lives are so miserable that they reach a point that they simply don't care what happens to them. Drug abuse provides immediate relief. They don't care if they risk going to prison. That's what we are up against.
People who are distraught and wish to escape with drugs need counseling. They need help pulling their lives together. They might be productive members of society with guidance, help and encouragement. By keeping drugs illegal, we ensure a crooked supply for them to escape. We pay a lot to apprehend, try and incarcerate abusers. We could get out of all that government spending by helping these people pull their lives together to become productive tax-payers who contribute to government budgets instead of costing us all money.
But hey. I'm a liberal. So you are hesitant to believe a word I say. I understand. I am fairly critical of anything a conservative says, myself. So don't listen to me alone.
Listen to the professionals in law enforcement. Police, Prosecutors, Judges:
Law Enforcement Action Partnership
Great, another liberal who want to legalize drugs so our nation's problems with drugs gets even worse.
You are correct I am in favor of legalizing all recreational drugs. You are incorrect as to the reason I hold this view.
I hold my view that all drugs should be legalized so that our nation's drug problems will be dealt with effectively and thus greatly reduced. I wish to end all the needless deaths, killings and the tremendous cost of dealing with drug abuse in America. Reagan announced his 'war on drugs' decades ago. It was a huge failure. All it did was fill our prisons and cost us a lot of money to lock a lot of people up. Our drug problem is as bad as ever. Even big pharma has gotten in on the act and is now profiting from all the death just as much as the gangs are.
Legalizing all drugs, taxing their legal sales, and using the money to pay for rehab is the smart approach.
Obviously, calling drug abuse a 'crime' and locking people up for it is not the answer. People who abuse drugs are not thinking clearly. They are not logical enough to say a) if I abuse drugs I stand a big chance of getting locked up for a very long time, so b) I shouldn't abuse drugs. Those are the thoughts of a rational person. The individual who abuses drugs doesn't think like that. Their lives suck. They are distraught. They turn to drugs for relief of their problems. Nobody makes a conscious decision that: 'Hey. I know. I should wreck my life with drugs! Yeah. That seems like a great idea. Nothing to lose doing that! Oh, but if I do that I might get locked up, so I shouldn't.' That's ridiculous. People don't think like that. Their lives are so miserable that they reach a point that they simply don't care what happens to them. Drug abuse provides immediate relief. They don't care if they risk going to prison. That's what we are up against.
People who are distraught and wish to escape with drugs need counseling. They need help pulling their lives together. They might be productive members of society with guidance, help and encouragement. By keeping drugs illegal, we ensure a crooked supply for them to escape. We pay a lot to apprehend, try and incarcerate abusers. We could get out of all that government spending by helping these people pull their lives together to become productive tax-payers who contribute to government budgets instead of costing us all money.
But hey. I'm a liberal. So you are hesitant to believe a word I say. I understand. I am fairly critical of anything a conservative says, myself. So don't listen to me alone.
Listen to the professionals in law enforcement. Police, Prosecutors, Judges:
Our Principles
The Law Enforcement Action Partnership believes that adult drug abuse is a public health problem and not a law enforcement matter.
The Law Enforcement Action Partnership does not promote the use of drugs and is deeply concerned about the extent of drug abuse and drug-related violence worldwide. However, both drug abuse and violence flourish under drug prohibition, just as they did during alcohol prohibition.
The Law Enforcement Action Partnership recognizes that drugs can be dangerous and addictive. Reasonable regulation should protect public health and include age restrictions on drug sales and use.
The Law Enforcement Action Partnership recognizes that currently illicit drugs pose different risks, requiring different models of regulation. We believe that U.S. states and other nations must be given the regulatory latitude to try new models that balance personal freedom and responsibility with the public health risks of death, disease, and addiction.
The Law Enforcement Action Partnership recognizes that it will take time to strike a proper balance, blending private, public, and medical models to best control and regulate currently illicit drugs. Our speakers advocate for a range of strategies in line with their own diverse experiences and political philosophies.
The Law Enforcement Action Partnership believes that government has a public health obligation to ascertain and clearly communicate to the public the risks associated with the use of each currently illicit drug.
The Law Enforcement Action Partnership argues that as the government ends prohibition, it should release drug offenders, expunge their records, and restore their civil rights. However, we believe that people using alcohol or other drugs must be held accountable for the harms caused to others while under the influence.
The Law Enforcement Action Partnership believes that individuals suffering from drug addiction who seek help should receive support, including drug treatment. We argue that the cost of expanding such services could be financed with a fraction of the criminal justice savings from ending drug prohibition.
Law Enforcement Action Partnership